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Airsource Ltd August 5th 09 01:53 PM

Planning question...
 
What constitutes the front elevation of a house? My house looks like
this

Front

HHHHH
HHHHH G
HHHHH G

i.e. a detached garage to the side of the house, set back from the
front of the house. The garage was built at the same time as the
house; i.e. it is not a subsequent development.

Is the front elevation

a) A line drawn along the front of the house and extended out in front
of the garage
b) A line along the front of the house, down the side of the house
until level with the garage, then along the front of the garage.

In other words, provided I meet all the other requirements, can I
build on the space in front of the garage?

Bob Mannix August 5th 09 02:15 PM

Planning question...
 
"Airsource Ltd" wrote in message
...
What constitutes the front elevation of a house? My house looks like
this

Front

HHHHH
HHHHH G
HHHHH G

i.e. a detached garage to the side of the house, set back from the
front of the house. The garage was built at the same time as the
house; i.e. it is not a subsequent development.

Is the front elevation

a) A line drawn along the front of the house and extended out in front
of the garage
b) A line along the front of the house, down the side of the house
until level with the garage, then along the front of the garage.

In other words, provided I meet all the other requirements, can I
build on the space in front of the garage?


In planning (and drawing) terms, the "front elevation" is a view, not a
thing, and is everything you can see from the front. The garage will appear
as if level with the house front. Only the "plan" drawing will show the
relative positions front to back. Thus building in front of the garage will
change the "front elevation" and so cannot be done (usually) without
planning permission.


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Bob Mannix
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Airsource Ltd August 5th 09 04:05 PM

Planning question...
 
On 5 Aug, 13:15, "Bob Mannix" wrote:
"Airsource Ltd" wrote in message

...





What constitutes the front elevation of a house? My house looks like
this


Front


HHHHH
HHHHH G
HHHHH G


i.e. a detached garage to the side of the house, set back from the
front of the house. The garage was built at the same time as the
house; i.e. it is not a subsequent development.


Is the front elevation


a) A line drawn along the front of the house and extended out in front
of the garage
b) A line along the front of the house, down the side of the house
until level with the garage, then along the front of the garage.


In other words, provided I meet all the other requirements, can I
build on the space in front of the garage?


In planning (and drawing) terms, the "front elevation" is a view, not a
thing, and *is everything you can see from the front. The garage will appear
as if level with the house front. Only the "plan" drawing will show the
relative positions front to back. Thus building in front of the garage will
change the "front elevation" and so cannot be done (usually) without
planning permission.


I asked the wrong question - I should have said principal elevation,
not front elevation. I know what front elevation is in drawing terms,
but the new planning regs introduce this new term.

Having done some more research, it appears that

a) Principal elevation means the front elevation of the part of the
house nearest the highway - but not outbuildings.
b) I can't build forward of a wall forming the principal elevation

So that seems to suggest I can do what I like behind it (plus or minus
all the other restrictions).

I guess I'll tootle round to the Guild Hall and see if I can pick
someone's brains there.

Airsource Ltd August 5th 09 04:08 PM

Planning question...
 
On 5 Aug, 15:05, Airsource Ltd wrote:
On 5 Aug, 13:15, "Bob Mannix" wrote:





"Airsource Ltd" wrote in message


...


What constitutes the front elevation of a house? My house looks like
this


Front


HHHHH
HHHHH G
HHHHH G


i.e. a detached garage to the side of the house, set back from the
front of the house. The garage was built at the same time as the
house; i.e. it is not a subsequent development.


Is the front elevation


a) A line drawn along the front of the house and extended out in front
of the garage
b) A line along the front of the house, down the side of the house
until level with the garage, then along the front of the garage.


In other words, provided I meet all the other requirements, can I
build on the space in front of the garage?


In planning (and drawing) terms, the "front elevation" is a view, not a
thing, and *is everything you can see from the front. The garage will appear
as if level with the house front. Only the "plan" drawing will show the
relative positions front to back. Thus building in front of the garage will
change the "front elevation" and so cannot be done (usually) without
planning permission.


I asked the wrong question - I should have said principal elevation,
not front elevation. I know what front elevation is in drawing terms,
but the new planning regs introduce this new term.

Having done some more research, it appears that


In particular:

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/eng...315233153.html


Roger Mills August 5th 09 06:57 PM

Planning question...
 
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Airsource Ltd wrote:

On 5 Aug, 15:05, Airsource Ltd wrote:
On 5 Aug, 13:15, "Bob Mannix" wrote:





"Airsource Ltd" wrote in message


...


What constitutes the front elevation of a house? My house looks
like this


Front


HHHHH
HHHHH G
HHHHH G


i.e. a detached garage to the side of the house, set back from the
front of the house. The garage was built at the same time as the
house; i.e. it is not a subsequent development.


Is the front elevation


a) A line drawn along the front of the house and extended out in
front of the garage
b) A line along the front of the house, down the side of the house
until level with the garage, then along the front of the garage.


In other words, provided I meet all the other requirements, can I
build on the space in front of the garage?


In planning (and drawing) terms, the "front elevation" is a view,
not a thing, and is everything you can see from the front. The
garage will appear as if level with the house front. Only the
"plan" drawing will show the relative positions front to back. Thus
building in front of the garage will change the "front elevation"
and so cannot be done (usually) without planning permission.


I asked the wrong question - I should have said principal elevation,
not front elevation. I know what front elevation is in drawing terms,
but the new planning regs introduce this new term.

Having done some more research, it appears that


In particular:

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/eng...315233153.html


I think that 'principal elevation' is the same as what used to be referred
to as the "Building Line".

In days of yore, you often couldn't build *anything* in front of the
building line, and anything which changed the front elevation (like your
proposed garage mod) needed planning permission.

However, that appears - from the document which you cite - to be no longer
the case. To be absolutely sure, I suggest you speak to someone from your
Local Authority Planning Department. I have always found mine to be very
helpful.
--
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Roger
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Bob Mannix August 6th 09 10:44 AM

Planning question...
 
"Roger Mills" wrote in message
...
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Airsource Ltd wrote:

On 5 Aug, 15:05, Airsource Ltd wrote:
On 5 Aug, 13:15, "Bob Mannix" wrote:





"Airsource Ltd" wrote in message

...

What constitutes the front elevation of a house? My house looks
like this

Front

HHHHH
HHHHH G
HHHHH G

i.e. a detached garage to the side of the house, set back from the
front of the house. The garage was built at the same time as the
house; i.e. it is not a subsequent development.

Is the front elevation

a) A line drawn along the front of the house and extended out in
front of the garage
b) A line along the front of the house, down the side of the house
until level with the garage, then along the front of the garage.

In other words, provided I meet all the other requirements, can I
build on the space in front of the garage?

In planning (and drawing) terms, the "front elevation" is a view,
not a thing, and is everything you can see from the front. The
garage will appear as if level with the house front. Only the
"plan" drawing will show the relative positions front to back. Thus
building in front of the garage will change the "front elevation"
and so cannot be done (usually) without planning permission.

I asked the wrong question - I should have said principal elevation,
not front elevation. I know what front elevation is in drawing terms,
but the new planning regs introduce this new term.

Having done some more research, it appears that


In particular:

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/eng...315233153.html


I think that 'principal elevation' is the same as what used to be referred
to as the "Building Line".

In days of yore, you often couldn't build *anything* in front of the
building line, and anything which changed the front elevation (like your
proposed garage mod) needed planning permission.


That was/is my understanding too

However, that appears - from the document which you cite - to be no longer
the case. To be absolutely sure, I suggest you speak to someone from your
Local Authority Planning Department. I have always found mine to be very
helpful.


Indeed - I don't know why people avoid the horse's mouth so assiduosly!


--
Bob Mannix
(anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not)



Airsource Ltd August 6th 09 01:07 PM

Planning question...
 
On 6 Aug, 10:44, "Bob Mannix" wrote:

However, that appears - from the document which you cite - to be no longer
the case. To be absolutely sure, I suggest you speak to someone from your
Local Authority Planning Department. I have always found mine to be very
helpful.


Indeed - I don't know why people avoid the horse's mouth so assiduosly!


.... because getting there and finding someone to ask requires some
spare time between 9am and 5pm....


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