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I'm planning to replace the internal doors in my house:

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1. Several of the room doors will be 4-panel 35mm thick. I'm thinking of
the Cadeby wood grain effect range (as sold in B&Q). Two problems:

a. Although most of the doors will be the standard 1981mm high, some
will be significantly shorter, down to 1955mm. I contacted the supplier,
who told me it is only acceptable to shave up to 6mm off the top and
bottom of the doors, otherwise their strength will be compromised.

b. One door is only 680mm wide, which is not available in this range.
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2. The remaining doors are for cupboards (cloaks cupboard, general
storage cupboard etc). These need to be plain ply, 25mm thick, standard
height. Problem: all I can find anywhere are doors that are 35mm thick.
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Solutions/comments anyone? (The room doors don't necessarily have to be
Cadeby -- we are just looking for substantial 4-panel doors).

--
Ian

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Ian wrote:
I'm planning to replace the internal doors in my house:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1. Several of the room doors will be 4-panel 35mm thick. I'm thinking
of the Cadeby wood grain effect range (as sold in B&Q). Two problems:

a. Although most of the doors will be the standard 1981mm high, some
will be significantly shorter, down to 1955mm. I contacted the
supplier, who told me it is only acceptable to shave up to 6mm off
the top and bottom of the doors, otherwise their strength will be
compromised.

Just had a quick look on the B&Q website at this door and I would suggest
that you can cut the door down to the height that you require using a saw
(important), keep the off-cut, carefully remove the remains of the two faces
off the bottom rail (leaving this clean and intact) - and then refit the
bottom rail by applying glue to the original two faces and cramping (or
clamping if you prefer) and skew-screw through the bottom rail into the two
stiles.

b. One door is only 680mm wide, which is not available in this range.

This would be far more difficult to overcome (having to cut around 75mm off
a (presumably) 760mm wide door - so you'll either have to contact the makers
of the door to see if they will do a purpose made one or widen the opening
(if you can or want too) to fit the smallest standard door width.

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2. The remaining doors are for cupboards (cloaks cupboard, general
storage cupboard etc). These need to be plain ply, 25mm thick,
standard height. Problem: all I can find anywhere are doors that are
35mm thick. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If these are essential, then (presuming they are simple flush doors to be
painted) either make them yourself [1] or ask a joinery shop to do it for
you.

Solutions/comments anyone? (The room doors don't necessarily have to
be Cadeby -- we are just looking for substantial 4-panel doors).

[1] Simply make a simple frame of the required thickness, butt jointed
and using glue and corrugated fasteners (wriggle nails) to fix the joints
(don't forget to include a 'lock-block' of sufficient size, and the cut
some thin plywood sheet or hardboard to size and then glue and pin [2] the
sheets to the frame - and finish with the desired decoration.

[2] You can use heavy weights to hold the ply/hardboard until the glue
dries, or use temporary 'tacks' and remove one the glue has tried or simply
glue and nail (punching the nails below the surface) - and then fill and
paint as required.

There may be other and better suggestions, but I hope this is of some help.

Cash

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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:49:51 +0100 Cash wrote :
b. One door is only 680mm wide, which is not available in this range.

This would be far more difficult to overcome (having to cut around 75mm
off a (presumably) 760mm wide door - so you'll either have to contact
the makers of the door to see if they will do a purpose made one or widen
the opening (if you can or want too) to fit the smallest standard door
width.

Strength issues apart, taking 75mm off the width is almost certainly going to
screw up the proportions of a four panel door. 686mm (2'3") is a standard door
width. The OP needs to go to a timber merchant or door specialist.

--
Tony Bryer, 'Software to build on' from Greentram
www.superbeam.co.uk www.superbeam.com www.greentram.com

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On Jul 17, 2:44*pm, Ian wrote:
I'm planning to replace the internal doors in my house:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1. Several of the room doors will be 4-panel 35mm thick. I'm thinking of
the Cadeby wood grain effect range (as sold in B&Q). Two problems:

a. Although most of the doors will be the standard 1981mm high, some
will be significantly shorter, down to 1955mm. I contacted the supplier,
who told me it is only acceptable to shave up to 6mm off the top and
bottom of the doors, otherwise their strength will be compromised.

you can certainly take a lot more than that off. Of course strength is
reduced to some degree. If you cant find what you want, make your own.
There's an endless array of styles to choose from... take a peek at
the first 4 links he
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?..._Picture_Links
And if you arent skills confident, there are some low skill ways to
make doors too.


NT

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Tony Bryer wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:49:51 +0100 Cash wrote :
b. One door is only 680mm wide, which is not available in this
range.

This would be far more difficult to overcome (having to cut around
75mm off a (presumably) 760mm wide door - so you'll either have to
contact the makers of the door to see if they will do a purpose made
one or widen the opening (if you can or want too) to fit the
smallest standard door width.

Strength issues apart, taking 75mm off the width is almost certainly
going to screw up the proportions of a four panel door. 686mm (2'3")
is a standard door width. The OP needs to go to a timber merchant or
door specialist.

More or less what I said I believe - and if the OP wants the same pattern
door with a non-standard width, then the manufacturer would be the best to
ask, as they may have the facility to make the odd non-standard door [1].
Just like the manufacturers of IG doors will do if asked.

[1] Or they may even start a 680mm (2' 3") range as this is also a
standard size, internal door used on may door sets.

Cash

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On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:19:11 +0100, Cash wrote:

Tony Bryer wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:49:51 +0100 Cash wrote :
b. One door is only 680mm wide, which is not available in this
range.

This would be far more difficult to overcome (having to cut around
75mm off a (presumably) 760mm wide door - so you'll either have to
contact the makers of the door to see if they will do a purpose made
one or widen the opening (if you can or want too) to fit the
smallest standard door width.

Strength issues apart, taking 75mm off the width is almost certainly
going to screw up the proportions of a four panel door. 686mm (2'3")
is a standard door width. The OP needs to go to a timber merchant or
door specialist.

More or less what I said I believe - and if the OP wants the same pattern
door with a non-standard width, then the manufacturer would be the best to
ask, as they may have the facility to make the odd non-standard door [1].
Just like the manufacturers of IG doors will do if asked.

[1] Or they may even start a 680mm (2' 3") range as this is also a
standard size, internal door used on may door sets.

Cash

My bathroom door is about that size.
--
Peter.
The head of a pin will hold more angels if
it's been flattened with an angel-grinder.

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From: Cash
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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 Time: 16:49:51

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Just had a quick look on the B&Q website at this door and I would suggest
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Cash



Thanks Cash and others for your inputs. It looks like this might turn
out to be an expensive exercise.

--
Ian

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Ian wrote:
From: Cash
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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 Time: 16:49:51

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Just had a quick look on the B&Q website at this door and I would suggest
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Cash



Thanks Cash and others for your inputs. It looks like this might turn
out to be an expensive exercise.


With a circular saw and some cheap doors, you can do anything you like.
It's making them look in proportion that's difficult.
If you're a real cheapskate, you could always pin panel beading to a
plain door. Surprisingly convincing from a distance.

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On Jul 19, 11:45*am, Stuart Noble wrote:
Ian wrote:
From: Cash

Just had a quick look on the B&Q website at this door and I would suggest
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Cash

Thanks Cash and others for your inputs. It looks like this might turn
out to be an expensive exercise.

With a circular saw and some cheap doors, you can do anything you like.
It's making them look in proportion that's difficult.
If you're a real cheapskate, you could always pin panel beading to a
plain door. Surprisingly convincing from a distance.

If its cheap and painted you're after, perhaps after trimming remove
one edge of the beading round the panels and add some extra timber &
bead to get it to better proportions. Another of several options...
ITs hard to recommend anything without knowing what you are and arent
prepared to do and what exactly you want to get.


NT