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Theo Markettos July 5th 09 06:31 PM

Temporary dishwasher
 

I want to test an old dishwasher before I install it. Rather than having
something blocking up the kitchen, there's a sink and plenty of space in the
garage I can use. Assuming the machine can cope with a 1m rise, I should be
able to drain into the sink, but I'd need to arrange the water supply.

I know there are self-cutting taps, like this:
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/13768/...tting-Tap-15mm

But they're quite a bodge, and I don't want to install an unsightly tap just
for half a dozen test runs.

I was wondering... the cold tap (which is about 30 years old) has four fins
sticking out about 8mm, and no thread. We already have a 'Hozelock'
connector for it for fitting a garden hose (leaks like anything, but I don't
care in this application). Might there be some way to bodge this connector
onto a supply hose? I have neither the dishwasher nor the tap adaptor
available to check at the moment.

I could mount the Hozelock connector on a new washing machine feed hose by
chopping off one 3/4" BSP connector. Hozelock hoses are 12.5mm - what size
are washing machine hoses? Hozelock have discontinued the tap connector, so
I don't really want to break it.

Would the dishwasher mind about the low pressure (put another way, how good
a test would it be with this arrangement)? There's also an outside tap -
can't remember if it has a screw thread, but it would need at least a 10m
hose run (so we're back to Hozelock again).

Any other suggestions?

Thanks
Theo

[email protected] July 5th 09 07:25 PM

Temporary dishwasher
 
On 5 July, 18:31, Theo Markettos
wrote:
I want to test an old dishwasher before I install it. *Rather than having
something blocking up the kitchen, there's a sink and plenty of space in the
garage I can use. *Assuming the machine can cope with a 1m rise, I should be
able to drain into the sink, but I'd need to arrange the water supply.

I know there are self-cutting taps, like this:http://www.screwfix.com/prods/13768/...chine-Accs/Sel...

But they're quite a bodge, and I don't want to install an unsightly tap just
for half a dozen test runs.

I was wondering... the cold tap (which is about 30 years old) has four fins
sticking out about 8mm, and no thread. *We already have a 'Hozelock'
connector for it for fitting a garden hose (leaks like anything, but I don't
care in this application). *Might there be some way to bodge this connector
onto a supply hose? *I have neither the dishwasher nor the tap adaptor
available to check at the moment.

I could mount the Hozelock connector on a new washing machine feed hose by
chopping off one 3/4" BSP connector. *Hozelock hoses are 12.5mm - what size
are washing machine hoses? *Hozelock have discontinued the tap connector, so
I don't really want to break it.

Would the dishwasher mind about the low pressure (put another way, how good
a test would it be with this arrangement)? *There's also an outside tap -
can't remember if it has a screw thread, but it would need at least a 10m
hose run (so we're back to Hozelock again).

Any other suggestions?


We temporarily ran a dishwasher with the supply hose screwed onto the
standard thread of an outside tap - it was a perfect match. Wouldn't
it sometimes be useful to have a 'outside' tap on the pipework in the
garage, screwed to the wall? It would certainly be if more use in the
future than a dishwasher valve.

Cheers!

Martin

Stephen Howard July 5th 09 08:21 PM

Temporary dishwasher
 
On 05 Jul 2009 18:31:26 +0100 (BST), Theo Markettos
wrote:


I want to test an old dishwasher before I install it. Rather than having
something blocking up the kitchen, there's a sink and plenty of space in the
garage I can use. Assuming the machine can cope with a 1m rise, I should be
able to drain into the sink, but I'd need to arrange the water supply.

snip

Any other suggestions?


I test them by moving the programme dial forward ( if it has one ) to
skip the fill phase and throwing a bucket or two of water in.
You might find it will work without having to skip the fill phase.

Regards,





--
Steve ( out in the sticks )
Email: Take time to reply: timefrom_usenet{at}gmx.net

Steve Walker July 6th 09 12:41 AM

Temporary dishwasher
 
On 05 Jul 2009 18:31:26 +0100 (BST), Theo Markettos wrote:

I want to test an old dishwasher before I install it. Rather than having
something blocking up the kitchen, there's a sink and plenty of space in the
garage I can use. Assuming the machine can cope with a 1m rise, I should be
able to drain into the sink, but I'd need to arrange the water supply.

I know there are self-cutting taps, like this:
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/13768/...tting-Tap-15mm

But they're quite a bodge, and I don't want to install an unsightly tap just
for half a dozen test runs.

I was wondering... the cold tap (which is about 30 years old) has four fins
sticking out about 8mm, and no thread. We already have a 'Hozelock'
connector for it for fitting a garden hose (leaks like anything, but I don't
care in this application). Might there be some way to bodge this connector
onto a supply hose? I have neither the dishwasher nor the tap adaptor
available to check at the moment.

I could mount the Hozelock connector on a new washing machine feed hose by
chopping off one 3/4" BSP connector. Hozelock hoses are 12.5mm - what size
are washing machine hoses? Hozelock have discontinued the tap connector, so
I don't really want to break it.

Would the dishwasher mind about the low pressure (put another way, how good
a test would it be with this arrangement)? There's also an outside tap -
can't remember if it has a screw thread, but it would need at least a 10m
hose run (so we're back to Hozelock again).

Any other suggestions?

Thanks
Theo


I've done this using the garden hose as the supply, fitting a hozelock
connector to the end, plugging a hozelock threaded tap connector into that
and then using a double ended threaded connector to screw into that and the
end of the dishwasher hose. All stuff that I had in the odds and ends box
and no cutting of hoses (the dishwasher's hose was a built in one, not one
that could simply be unscrewed from the back of the machine).

SteveW

Theo Markettos July 6th 09 01:04 AM

Temporary dishwasher
 
Stephen Howard wrote:
I test them by moving the programme dial forward ( if it has one ) to
skip the fill phase and throwing a bucket or two of water in.
You might find it will work without having to skip the fill phase.


Ah, but how do I know there isn't a problem with the fill valve or inlet
pipe? I want to test the dishwasher to check it's OK before messing up the
kitchen fitting it in.

Theo

Theo Markettos July 6th 09 01:08 AM

Temporary dishwasher
 
wrote:
We temporarily ran a dishwasher with the supply hose screwed onto the
standard thread of an outside tap - it was a perfect match.


Well I could just run it off the outside tap (though thinking about it the
hose attachment doesn't have a screw so maybe it isn't threaded). But that
would mean having the dishwasher in the rain!

Wouldn't it sometimes be useful to have a 'outside' tap on the pipework in
the garage, screwed to the wall? It would certainly be if more use in the
future than a dishwasher valve.


That's an idea. Trouble is the garage has the old kitchen in it, and
the pipes are fitted below counter level. It'd mean cutting a hole in the
sink, or a long pipe run from elsewhere. A bit of a faff and not terribly
pretty (yes I know it's a garage, but...)

Theo

Toby July 6th 09 09:20 AM

Temporary dishwasher
 
Steve Walker wrote:
On 05 Jul 2009 18:31:26 +0100 (BST), Theo Markettos wrote:

I want to test an old dishwasher before I install it. Rather than having
something blocking up the kitchen, there's a sink and plenty of space in the
garage I can use. Assuming the machine can cope with a 1m rise, I should be
able to drain into the sink, but I'd need to arrange the water supply.

I know there are self-cutting taps, like this:
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/13768/...tting-Tap-15mm

But they're quite a bodge, and I don't want to install an unsightly tap just
for half a dozen test runs.

I was wondering... the cold tap (which is about 30 years old) has four fins
sticking out about 8mm, and no thread. We already have a 'Hozelock'
connector for it for fitting a garden hose (leaks like anything, but I don't
care in this application). Might there be some way to bodge this connector
onto a supply hose? I have neither the dishwasher nor the tap adaptor
available to check at the moment.

I could mount the Hozelock connector on a new washing machine feed hose by
chopping off one 3/4" BSP connector. Hozelock hoses are 12.5mm - what size
are washing machine hoses? Hozelock have discontinued the tap connector, so
I don't really want to break it.

Would the dishwasher mind about the low pressure (put another way, how good
a test would it be with this arrangement)? There's also an outside tap -
can't remember if it has a screw thread, but it would need at least a 10m
hose run (so we're back to Hozelock again).

Any other suggestions?

Thanks
Theo


I've done this using the garden hose as the supply, fitting a hozelock
connector to the end, plugging a hozelock threaded tap connector into that
and then using a double ended threaded connector to screw into that and the
end of the dishwasher hose. All stuff that I had in the odds and ends box
and no cutting of hoses (the dishwasher's hose was a built in one, not one
that could simply be unscrewed from the back of the machine).

SteveW


Same here with washing machines too - exept i just screwed a 3/4"
hoselock connector (Standard connector usually screwed to a tap)
directly to the back of the machine, then plugged the hose into the back
of the machine.

Toby...


Part timer July 7th 09 12:17 AM

Temporary dishwasher
 
On 5 July, 18:31, Theo Markettos
wrote:
I want to test an old dishwasher before I install it. *Rather than having
something blocking up the kitchen, there's a sink and plenty of space in the
garage I can use. *Assuming the machine can cope with a 1m rise, I should be
able to drain into the sink, but I'd need to arrange the water supply.


They use surprisingly little water per wash. If you are going to watch
over it during testing, just use a large (lower) container and empty
it each time it pumps water out. Water the garden with virtually clean
water if you're running it empty. I ran a hose over from our outside
tap when testing a half rebuilt DW just inside the garage door, and
fixed a few cm of copper pipe inside the end of the hose (jubilee clip
around it), with an old appliace tap on the end.


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