Advice for gas chimney
 

I'm thinking of putting a canopy over our back door, and possibly
building a covered walkway between the house and our garage, the walls
of which run parallel and about 3 feet apart. However there's a
problem in so far that the central heating boiler chimney exits
alongside the back door, and this would end up with the chimney
venting into the canopy/walkway. Obviously I'm not going to do that!

There's also an extractor hood vent the far side of the back door, but
I'm more comfortable with extending that if I need to.

Here's a couple of pictures of our back door with the chimney clearly
seen to the left:

http://www.yorkshireplace.co.uk/Door.asp

I know it is possible to install a vertical extension to a CH chimney
because a place down the road has got one, but never having delved
into this sort of thing before I'm not familiar with what can/can't be
done. I'm assuming that if I were to extend the chimney then I have to
take care that the chimney can "breathe" in and out, plus whatever I
mount around the chimney (in terms of canopy/roof) has to be
acceptably fireproof.

The CH boiler is a Potterton PrimaF if that makes any difference.

Advice would be welcome. Does this require a gas fitter to do the job
to ensure it is done right, or is it in the realms of general DIY?

PoP

Advice for gas chimney
 

"PoP" wrote in message
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I'm thinking of putting a canopy over our back door, and possibly
building a covered walkway between the house and our garage, the walls
of which run parallel and about 3 feet apart. However there's a
problem in so far that the central heating boiler chimney exits
alongside the back door, and this would end up with the chimney
venting into the canopy/walkway. Obviously I'm not going to do that!

There's also an extractor hood vent the far side of the back door, but
I'm more comfortable with extending that if I need to.

Here's a couple of pictures of our back door with the chimney clearly
seen to the left:

http://www.yorkshireplace.co.uk/Door.asp

I know it is possible to install a vertical extension to a CH chimney
because a place down the road has got one, but never having delved
into this sort of thing before I'm not familiar with what can/can't be
done. I'm assuming that if I were to extend the chimney then I have to
take care that the chimney can "breathe" in and out, plus whatever I
mount around the chimney (in terms of canopy/roof) has to be
acceptably fireproof.

The CH boiler is a Potterton PrimaF if that makes any difference.

Advice would be welcome. Does this require a gas fitter to do the job
to ensure it is done right, or is it in the realms of general DIY?

PoP


Would the canopy come out to the side as far as the pipe ? It looks to be
far enough away from the door to fit a small canopy beside it. Is the door
to the garage opposite the kitchen door ? Or are you thinking on covering
the whole gap between the buildings some how ?

The flue pipe needs to be sealed with the correct paste stuff at any slip
over joints, so you might need the help of someone who knows about these
things. But I do know that it is possible to have a least 2mtrs of flue
from most of the standard boilers without needing extra fan assistance and
things. So, the next questions are, how far away from the wall is the
boiler ? And would any extension to the existing flue, take it over the
nominal 2mtr length ?

Advice for gas chimney
 

On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:08:26 GMT, "BigWallop"
wrote:

Would the canopy come out to the side as far as the pipe ? It looks to be
far enough away from the door to fit a small canopy beside it. Is the door
to the garage opposite the kitchen door ? Or are you thinking on covering
the whole gap between the buildings some how ?

The flue is roughly about the place where I was thinking of adding a
door to the (newly) covered passageway.

The flue pipe needs to be sealed with the correct paste stuff at any slip
over joints, so you might need the help of someone who knows about these
things. But I do know that it is possible to have a least 2mtrs of flue
from most of the standard boilers without needing extra fan assistance and
things. So, the next questions are, how far away from the wall is the
boiler ? And would any extension to the existing flue, take it over the
nominal 2mtr length ?

I was thinking that maybe a 90 degree bend to take the flue to
vertical, and then 1m with a raincap on top.

Haven't discussed this with SWMBO yet. That'll probably be met with
the same argument about us getting a small dog. Why are some people so
alienated by a dog yet they wax lyrical about getting a cat? I can't
stand cats because they are so damned independent.

PoP

Advice for gas chimney
 

PoP wrote:

I'm thinking of putting a canopy over our back door, and possibly
building a covered walkway between the house and our garage, the walls
of which run parallel and about 3 feet apart. However there's a
problem in so far that the central heating boiler chimney exits
alongside the back door, and this would end up with the chimney
venting into the canopy/walkway. Obviously I'm not going to do that!

There's also an extractor hood vent the far side of the back door, but
I'm more comfortable with extending that if I need to.

Here's a couple of pictures of our back door with the chimney clearly
seen to the left:

http://www.yorkshireplace.co.uk/Door.asp

I know it is possible to install a vertical extension to a CH chimney
because a place down the road has got one, but never having delved
into this sort of thing before I'm not familiar with what can/can't be
done. I'm assuming that if I were to extend the chimney then I have to
take care that the chimney can "breathe" in and out, plus whatever I
mount around the chimney (in terms of canopy/roof) has to be
acceptably fireproof.

The CH boiler is a Potterton PrimaF if that makes any difference.

Advice would be welcome. Does this require a gas fitter to do the job
to ensure it is done right, or is it in the realms of general DIY?

PoP

Actually the boiler instructions are likely to permit the flue to
discharge into such an area [1] except for one problem - you need 1200mm
from all the openings. You would seem to currently have about 500mm to
the door.

You will need to look at the installation instructions for the boiler.
It is likely that a flue with two 90 bends (one inside and one outside
the house) and a vertical flue terminal will comply.

You will need to obtain the flue parts ( 1 bend, 1 vertical terminal, 1
extension peice to replace the existing horizontal terminal).

First you need to really checkout what possible in the instructions,
they might require a minimum 600mm horizontally to the walls - both of
them - which could be the problem. 8-(

The vertical terminal will be designed to go through a wooden deck - the
flue/duct does not get hot because the flue is inside the duct.

The physically hardest part will be getting the old terminal out of its
hole - it looks like it's been cemented in.

However unless you are competant to work on gas appliance flues you best
get in a pro.

[1] "Car ports" are defined as having having a roof and open on 2 or
more sides.
--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html

Advice for gas chimney
 

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:22:23 +0100, Ed Sirett
wrote:

Actually the boiler instructions are likely to permit the flue to
discharge into such an area [1] except for one problem - you need 1200mm
from all the openings. You would seem to currently have about 500mm to
the door.

I email'd Potterton's last night to see what they have to say.

Found an online manual for the Prima 'C' boiler and references on the
web to Prima 'D' and 'E', couldn't find a reference to Prima 'F'
anywhere. I assume it'll be the same basic boiler with slightly
enhanced specs.

PoP