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Scrump May 31st 09 12:18 PM

Change Fullex UPVC front door lock for "Lift and Lock" type?
 
For security reasons I want change our front door lock to a "Lift And
Lock" type that locks when you lift the handle. Is that possible? Do I
need to change the whole lock?

Will I need to change the whole lock (i.e. top and bottom deadbolts)?
The locking mechansim? The spindle?

Can anyone recommend a reliable online retailer?

There are some pictures he http://photobucket.com/FullexLock

* Distance between screws - 215mm
* Distance between handle and cylinder - 68mm
* Distance between cylinder and edge of door - 35mm
* Two deadbolts in the frame as well as central deadlock

Thanks!

Andrew Gabriel May 31st 09 01:19 PM

Change Fullex UPVC front door lock for "Lift and Lock" type?
 
In article ,
Scrump writes:
For security reasons I want change our front door lock to a "Lift And
Lock" type that locks when you lift the handle. Is that possible? Do I
need to change the whole lock?


I don't think such a lock exists, but lots of people with them
falsely believe the door locks when you lift the handle, and
get burgled as a result of it not actually being locked at all.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

Scrump May 31st 09 02:43 PM

Change Fullex UPVC front door lock for "Lift and Lock" type?
 
I don't think such a lock exists

http://www.liftandlock.com/

(I've sent them an email, but want an opinion from uk.d-i-y)

lots of people with them
falsely believe the door locks when you lift the handle, and
get burgled as a result of it not actually being locked at all.


That is exactly what has just happened to us!


Bob Minchin[_2_] May 31st 09 03:43 PM

Change Fullex UPVC front door lock for "Lift and Lock" type?
 
Scrump wrote:
I don't think such a lock exists


http://www.liftandlock.com/

(I've sent them an email, but want an opinion from uk.d-i-y)

lots of people with them
falsely believe the door locks when you lift the handle, and
get burgled as a result of it not actually being locked at all.


That is exactly what has just happened to us!

So can a second person unlock the door with a key once this lock has
been "locked" from the inside?
If not this could be a real PITA in our household.

Bob

Scabbydug May 31st 09 03:45 PM

Change Fullex UPVC front door lock for "Lift and Lock" type?
 

"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article
,
Scrump writes:
For security reasons I want change our front door lock to a "Lift And
Lock" type that locks when you lift the handle. Is that possible? Do I
need to change the whole lock?


I don't think such a lock exists, but lots of people with them
falsely believe the door locks when you lift the handle, and
get burgled as a result of it not actually being locked at all.


Looking at the pictures it seems that your lock mechanism is an almost
intregal part of the door, obviously it must be replaceable but can't tell
by your pictures. Retain the existing cylinder though.
Some multi points do deadlock by lifting the handle, the only way to unlock
is by key.



Andrew Gabriel May 31st 09 05:02 PM

Change Fullex UPVC front door lock for "Lift and Lock" type?
 
In article ,
Scrump writes:
I don't think such a lock exists


http://www.liftandlock.com/

(I've sent them an email, but want an opinion from uk.d-i-y)

lots of people with them
falsely believe the door locks when you lift the handle, and
get burgled as a result of it not actually being locked at all.


That is exactly what has just happened to us!


Oh, sorry to hear that. :-(

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

Andrew Gabriel May 31st 09 05:20 PM

Change Fullex UPVC front door lock for "Lift and Lock" type?
 
In article ,
Bob Minchin writes:
Scrump wrote:
I don't think such a lock exists


http://www.liftandlock.com/

(I've sent them an email, but want an opinion from uk.d-i-y)

lots of people with them
falsely believe the door locks when you lift the handle, and
get burgled as a result of it not actually being locked at all.


That is exactly what has just happened to us!

So can a second person unlock the door with a key once this lock has
been "locked" from the inside?
If not this could be a real PITA in our household.


It's remarkable how completely deviod of any useful technical
information their website and the downloadable PDF are.
Makes you think they must be trying to hide something.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

Scrump May 31st 09 08:48 PM

Change Fullex UPVC front door lock for "Lift and Lock" type?
 
Hmmm - just got this email from "Handles And Hinges":

Hi,

I am sorry to inform you that due to quality issues
the lift& lock handle sales are currently suspended.
Please accept my apologies in this matter.

Dylan Taylor Service Engineer
Handles & Hinges UPVC Maintenance Ltd


Scrump May 31st 09 08:50 PM

Change Fullex UPVC front door lock for "Lift and Lock" type?
 
Hmmm - just got this email from "Handles And Hinges":

-------------------------------

Hi,

I am sorry to inform you that due to quality issues
the lift& lock handle sales are currently suspended.
Please accept my apologies in this matter.

xxxx xxxxxx Service Engineer
Handles & Hinges UPVC Maintenance Ltd


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