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drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
Hi,
Noticed a strange thing today. There are two shelves in my under sink cupboard and they are drenched right through the chipboard but the laminated surfaces are bone dry. I can't seem to find any leaking pipes, but also I can't work out how to take the units apart. I live in a housing association property so I'll contact them in the morning. Just seems odd how the woods wet inside but the outside is dry. Marky P. |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
The unit will be wrecked - weakened beyond recovery. Has a container leaked?
does the u-bend leak when you empty the sink? "Marky P" wrote in message ... Hi, Noticed a strange thing today. There are two shelves in my under sink cupboard and they are drenched right through the chipboard but the laminated surfaces are bone dry. I can't seem to find any leaking pipes, but also I can't work out how to take the units apart. I live in a housing association property so I'll contact them in the morning. Just seems odd how the woods wet inside but the outside is dry. Marky P. |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:05:45 -0000, "John"
wrote: The unit will be wrecked - weakened beyond recovery. Has a container leaked? does the u-bend leak when you empty the sink? "Marky P" wrote in message .. . Hi, Noticed a strange thing today. There are two shelves in my under sink cupboard and they are drenched right through the chipboard but the laminated surfaces are bone dry. I can't seem to find any leaking pipes, but also I can't work out how to take the units apart. I live in a housing association property so I'll contact them in the morning. Just seems odd how the woods wet inside but the outside is dry. Marky P. There doesn't appear to be any water leaks on any visible pipes. I'ved checked the sides of the unit and one side is bowing out slightly and the wood feels damp under the laminate. All other cupboards (even ones right next to it) are bone dry. Kitchen units are quite old (imo) and the housing association are gradually going round updating homes, so maybe this little problem will push me up the list. Marky P. |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
"Marky P" wrote in message ... Hi, Noticed a strange thing today. There are two shelves in my under sink cupboard and they are drenched right through the chipboard but the laminated surfaces are bone dry. I can't seem to find any leaking pipes, but also I can't work out how to take the units apart. I live in a housing association property so I'll contact them in the morning. Just seems odd how the woods wet inside but the outside is dry. Is there a cut edge against a damp surface that is acting as a wick, drawing moisture into the chipboard? |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
OG wrote:
"Marky P" wrote in message ... Hi, Noticed a strange thing today. There are two shelves in my under sink cupboard and they are drenched right through the chipboard but the laminated surfaces are bone dry. I can't seem to find any leaking pipes, but also I can't work out how to take the units apart. I live in a housing association property so I'll contact them in the morning. Just seems odd how the woods wet inside but the outside is dry. Is there a cut edge against a damp surface that is acting as a wick, drawing moisture into the chipboard? Like the cold rising main on which water can condense? |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
Marky P wrote:
Hi, Noticed a strange thing today. There are two shelves in my under sink cupboard and they are drenched right through the chipboard but the laminated surfaces are bone dry. I can't seem to find any leaking pipes, but also I can't work out how to take the units apart. I live in a housing association property so I'll contact them in the morning. Just seems odd how the woods wet inside but the outside is dry. Very common to have a leak which soaks the chipboard core, but evaporates from the melamine finish. Usually the damp chipboard smells. Could have been a leak ages ago, the chipboard core takes yonks to dry out. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
the chipboard core takes yonks to dry out.
How long is a yonk exactly? |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
Marky P wrote:
Hi, Noticed a strange thing today. There are two shelves in my under sink cupboard and they are drenched right through the chipboard but the laminated surfaces are bone dry. I can't seem to find any leaking pipes, but also I can't work out how to take the units apart. I live in a housing association property so I'll contact them in the morning. Just seems odd how the woods wet inside but the outside is dry. Marky P. Is water making its way under the edge of the sink? Once the core of the chip gets wets, it takes an awfully long time to dry out. -- Rod Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious onset. Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed. www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
On 11 Feb, 00:50, "SimonJ" wrote:
the chipboard core takes yonks to dry out. How long is a yonk exactly? Significantly longer than a mo. |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
Marky P wrote:
Hi, Noticed a strange thing today. There are two shelves in my under sink cupboard and they are drenched right through the chipboard but the laminated surfaces are bone dry. I can't seem to find any leaking pipes, but also I can't work out how to take the units apart. I live in a housing association property so I'll contact them in the morning. Just seems odd how the woods wet inside but the outside is dry. Marky P. Another cause not yet mentioned is tiled worktops. Tiny grout cracks can let in enough water to soak the chip. Hopefully a good look round can tell you where its worst, thus where its coming from. Drilling small holes in the chip underside (not right through!) can help the core dry quicker, which hopefully would reduce the damage as well. The latter should be avoided by the OP of course, due to renting. NT |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:20:44 -0800, 1501 wrote:
On 11 Feb, 00:50, "SimonJ" wrote: the chipboard core takes yonks to dry out. How long is a yonk exactly? Significantly longer than a mo. And twice as long as half a yonk. |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:05:45 +0000, John wrote:
does the u-bend leak when you empty the sink? Could be. I had a prob here too where the pipework actually came loose where it normally attaches to the underside of the sink drain. Visually it looked fine, but once in a while it'd leak depending on how the sink was being used (i.e. if filled with water and drained, it'd be OK, but would sometimes leak if water was poured down the drain from a pan, or if the spray tap was used) |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
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drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 07:57:44 -0600, Jules
wrote: On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:05:45 +0000, John wrote: does the u-bend leak when you empty the sink? Could be. I had a prob here too where the pipework actually came loose where it normally attaches to the underside of the sink drain. Visually it looked fine, but once in a while it'd leak depending on how the sink was being used (i.e. if filled with water and drained, it'd be OK, but would sometimes leak if water was poured down the drain from a pan, or if the spray tap was used) I have had that in the past, but it was very minor and I fixed it. I did try pouring water down the sink and there are no leakages. Marky P. |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:34:10 -0000, "OG"
wrote: "Marky P" wrote in message .. . Hi, Noticed a strange thing today. There are two shelves in my under sink cupboard and they are drenched right through the chipboard but the laminated surfaces are bone dry. I can't seem to find any leaking pipes, but also I can't work out how to take the units apart. I live in a housing association property so I'll contact them in the morning. Just seems odd how the woods wet inside but the outside is dry. Is there a cut edge against a damp surface that is acting as a wick, drawing moisture into the chipboard? That could be possible. I think there's a possibility that the wall is getting damp (maybe condensation) and the damp is getting drawn into the chipboard through an unsealed edge. It appears to be slowly drying out now, so maybe connected with the recent bad weather. Anyway, a bloke will be round in the morning :-) Marky P. |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:51:51 -0000, "Clot"
wrote: OG wrote: "Marky P" wrote in message ... Hi, Noticed a strange thing today. There are two shelves in my under sink cupboard and they are drenched right through the chipboard but the laminated surfaces are bone dry. I can't seem to find any leaking pipes, but also I can't work out how to take the units apart. I live in a housing association property so I'll contact them in the morning. Just seems odd how the woods wet inside but the outside is dry. Is there a cut edge against a damp surface that is acting as a wick, drawing moisture into the chipboard? Like the cold rising main on which water can condense? I hope so. That would be nice & easy to sort out. Marky P. |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
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drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:06:44 +0000, Marky P wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 07:57:44 -0600, Jules wrote: On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:05:45 +0000, John wrote: does the u-bend leak when you empty the sink? Could be. I had a prob here too where the pipework actually came loose where it normally attaches to the underside of the sink drain. Visually it looked fine, but once in a while it'd leak depending on how the sink was being used (i.e. if filled with water and drained, it'd be OK, but would sometimes leak if water was poured down the drain from a pan, or if the spray tap was used) I have had that in the past, but it was very minor and I fixed it. I did try pouring water down the sink and there are no leakages. That was the problem I had, though - it was like it'd leak only when my back was turned ;-) In the end giving the pipework a good shove was what showed the joint to be bad; no amount of observational testing by pouring water down the drain had revealed the problem - I think water had to be going down there at just the right angle for it to seep out. |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
Jules writes:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:20:44 -0800, 1501 wrote: On 11 Feb, 00:50, "SimonJ" wrote: the chipboard core takes yonks to dry out. How long is a yonk exactly? Significantly longer than a mo. And twice as long as half a yonk. Lets be precise about this: 1 mo = 2 ticks 1 while = 1000 ticks 1 yonk = 1000 whiles so a yonk is a megatick -- Jón Fairbairn http://www.chaos.org.uk/~jf/Stuff-I-dont-want.html (updated 2009-01-31) |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:21:51 -0600, Jules
wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:06:44 +0000, Marky P wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 07:57:44 -0600, Jules wrote: On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:05:45 +0000, John wrote: does the u-bend leak when you empty the sink? Could be. I had a prob here too where the pipework actually came loose where it normally attaches to the underside of the sink drain. Visually it looked fine, but once in a while it'd leak depending on how the sink was being used (i.e. if filled with water and drained, it'd be OK, but would sometimes leak if water was poured down the drain from a pan, or if the spray tap was used) I have had that in the past, but it was very minor and I fixed it. I did try pouring water down the sink and there are no leakages. That was the problem I had, though - it was like it'd leak only when my back was turned ;-) In the end giving the pipework a good shove was what showed the joint to be bad; no amount of observational testing by pouring water down the drain had revealed the problem - I think water had to be going down there at just the right angle for it to seep out. Well, bloke came round this morning and confirmed that there are no leaks, even with a bit of violent shoving. So it looks like a severe condensation problem. He decided the unit was pretty wrecked and has put my name forward for a replacement. Probably be a few months, but at least it's kind of free :-) Got my dehumidifier in there now to help dry out the chipboard. Marky P. |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
Huge writes:
On 2009-02-12, Jon Fairbairn wrote: Jules writes: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:20:44 -0800, 1501 wrote: On 11 Feb, 00:50, "SimonJ" wrote: the chipboard core takes yonks to dry out. How long is a yonk exactly? Significantly longer than a mo. And twice as long as half a yonk. Lets be precise about this: 1 mo = 2 ticks 1 while = 1000 ticks 1 yonk = 1000 whiles so a yonk is a megatick So where does a "jiffy" fit in? Are we talking about latex here? -- Jón Fairbairn http://www.chaos.org.uk/~jf/Stuff-I-dont-want.html (updated 2009-01-31) |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:51:31 +0000, Jon Fairbairn wrote:
Lets be precise about this: 1 mo = 2 ticks 1 while = 1000 ticks 1 yonk = 1000 whiles Urgh, that's way too metricified ;) I suspect you could also express time using the whistling noise a builder makes when looking at a job and sucking air between their teeth, but I'm not quite sure how you'd write that one down... |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
Marky P wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 04:43:40 -0800 (PST), wrote: Marky P wrote: Hi, Noticed a strange thing today. There are two shelves in my under sink cupboard and they are drenched right through the chipboard but the laminated surfaces are bone dry. I can't seem to find any leaking pipes, but also I can't work out how to take the units apart. I live in a housing association property so I'll contact them in the morning. Just seems odd how the woods wet inside but the outside is dry. Marky P. Another cause not yet mentioned is tiled worktops. Tiny grout cracks can let in enough water to soak the chip. Hopefully a good look round can tell you where its worst, thus where its coming from. Drilling small holes in the chip underside (not right through!) can help the core dry quicker, which hopefully would reduce the damage as well. The latter should be avoided by the OP of course, due to renting. NT I don't really want to tamper with it too much, just in case they blame me for the problem. If it's not my fault it will be fixed for free. Well, I say free, that's really what I pay my rent for. Or at least part of it. Yes, thats why you shouldnt do any work on it If it is condensation though, the new unit will likely go the same way. NT |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Jon Fairbairn saying something like: So where does a "jiffy" fit in? Are we talking about latex here? Don't be iffy - cum in a Jiffy. ****Jiffy Condoms**** |
drenched chipboard shelves in under sink cupboard
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Owain saying something like: How long is a yonk exactly? 3 months 13 days http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...k&defid=366597 Utter nonsense. Everbody knows a yonk is undefinable. |
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