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Hi all.
The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while
the shower continues to flow whilst submerged.
Does this have a detrimental effect on the combi?

Thanks.

Arthur



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Hi all.
The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while
the shower continues to flow whilst submerged.
Does this have a detrimental effect on the combi?

Thanks.

Arthur




Sorry.
I should say that the shower is thermo bar shower (Grohe)
and Combi is W-B 28i

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On 26 Jan, 22:07, "Arthur2" wrote:
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The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while
the shower continues to flow whilst submerged.
Does this have a detrimental effect on the combi?

Thanks.

Arthur


no but referring to her as the wife might have a detrimental effect on
other things!
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On 26 Jan, 22:07, "Arthur2" wrote:
Hi all.
The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while
the shower continues to flow whilst submerged.
Does this have a detrimental effect on the combi?


no but referring to her as the wife might have a detrimental effect on
other things!


The old dear will be too busy doing the cooking and ironing to read any
comments on here ;-)

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Hi all.
The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while
the shower continues to flow whilst submerged.
Does this have a detrimental effect on the combi?

Thanks.

Arthur


Thought that was against water regulations because of possible back
syphoning ?


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On 26 Jan, 22:07, "Arthur2" wrote:
Hi all.
The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while
the shower continues to flow whilst submerged.
Does this have a detrimental effect on the combi?


no but referring to her as the wife might have a detrimental effect on
other things!


The old dear will be too busy doing the cooking and ironing to read any
comments on here ;-)


Which reminds me....anniversary on saturday...need to think...{ping}..leccy
breadmaker...easy.



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On 26 Jan, 22:07, "Arthur2" wrote:
Hi all.
The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while
the shower continues to flow whilst submerged.
Does this have a detrimental effect on the combi?


no but referring to her as the wife might have a detrimental effect on
other things!


The old dear will be too busy doing the cooking and ironing to read any
comments on here ;-)


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Hi all.
The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while
the shower continues to flow whilst submerged.
Does this have a detrimental effect on the combi?

Thanks.

Arthur


Thought that was against water regulations because of possible back
syphoning ?


We're talking about a female here, mate.

Arthur



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On Jan 26, 4:07*pm, "Arthur2" wrote:
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The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while
the shower continues to flow whilst submerged.
Does this have a detrimental effect on the combi?

Thanks.

Arthur


So you looking for a reason to tell her to quit wasting water and
energy, other than telling her its wasting money because she wont
listen. Grow some balls.


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Which reminds me....anniversary on saturday...need to
think...{ping}..leccy breadmaker...easy.


If you want to give her a better present, *you* buy the breadmaker for
yourself and make bread for her!

Fresh bread from a breadmaker is nice but making it regularly quickly
becomes a bit of a chore.

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On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:38:21 +0000, Rod wrote:

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Whoever fitted the shower broke the regs. Ours had a plate-with-a-hole
arrangement that the shower hose has to go through. When that was done,
the shower head could not reach the water level in even a full bath. But
it also made it much more awkward to use the shower to sluice down the
bath after use. (Please note the tense in that sentence. :-) )


Can also make things a bit tense when trying to rinse your nethers.
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On 26 Jan, 23:16, wrote:
The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while
the shower continues to flow whilst submerged.


Thought that was against water regulations because of possible back
syphoning ?


Water By Laws (AIUI) control the _positioning_ of the shower, such
that the hose won't have enough reach to allow this to happen. They
recognise that they haven't a hope of controlling people's behaviour
when using it.

So it was Arthur's (possibly a plumber's, but this is uk.d-i-y) fault,
not his wife's.
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:07:02 -0000, "Arthur2"
wrote:

Hi all.
The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while
the shower continues to flow whilst submerged.
Does this have a detrimental effect on the combi?


Thanks.


Arthur


Thought that was against water regulations because of possible back
syphoning ?


Does that answer the question?
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On Jan 26, 10:07*pm, "Arthur2" wrote:
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The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while
the shower continues to flow whilst submerged.
Does this have a detrimental effect on the combi?


No.
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:07:02 -0000, "Arthur2"
wrote:

Hi all.
The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while
the shower continues to flow whilst submerged.
Does this have a detrimental effect on the combi?

Thanks.

Arthur


Thought that was against water regulations because of possible back
syphoning ?
Absolutely against the regs. Flogging is too good for em.

Whoever fitted the shower broke the regs. Ours had a plate-with-a-hole
arrangement that the shower hose has to go through. When that was done,
the shower head could not reach the water level in even a full bath. But
it also made it much more awkward to use the shower to sluice down the
bath after use. (Please note the tense in that sentence. :-) )


Are you certain - what regs? Most systems have or ought to have double
check valves. Mine has. Otherwise what's the point of having them?


No I am not certain - I'd need a legal opinion to be certain. But you
can have a look he

http://www.wras.co.uk/PDF_Files/WRAS%20note%20compact%20bathrooms%2011-06.pdf

And see what that says (albeit in the context of *compact* bathrooms).

Ironically, because our shower is fed from the cold water tank, we do
have an air gap from the mains. Using a combi, you don't.

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On 27 Jan, 01:32, ransley wrote:
On Jan 26, 4:07*pm, "Arthur2" wrote:

Hi all.
The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while
the shower continues to flow whilst submerged.
Does this have a detrimental effect on the combi?


Thanks.


Arthur


So you looking for a reason to tell her to quit wasting water and
energy, other than telling her its wasting money because she wont
listen. Grow some balls.


She's in the canal. Is that good?

Arthur
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:16:36 +0000, fictitious wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:07:02 -0000, "Arthur2"
wrote:

Hi all.
The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while the shower
continues to flow whilst submerged. Does this have a detrimental effect
on the combi?

Thanks.

Arthur


Thought that was against water regulations because of possible back
syphoning ?



AIUI this is not a problem provided one of the following is met.


1) The installation can't back syphon because the hose can't reach.
2) The shower is electric or has built in non-return valves.
3) The shower is not run from the mains water.

(2) seems to apply here as the mixer is a bar mixer which have NRVs in
them. As do /most/ thermostatic mixers.








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Hi all.
The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while
the shower continues to flow whilst submerged.
Does this have a detrimental effect on the combi?

Thanks.

Arthur

Thought that was against water regulations because of possible back
syphoning ?


A non return valve should be in the supply pipes.

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On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:07:02 -0000, "Arthur2"
wrote:

Hi all.
The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while the
shower continues to flow whilst submerged. Does this have a
detrimental effect on the combi?

Thanks.

Arthur


Thought that was against water regulations because of possible back
syphoning ?



AIUI this is not a problem provided one of the following is met.


1) The installation can't back syphon because the hose can't reach.
2) The shower is electric or has built in non-return valves.
3) The shower is not run from the mains water.

(2) seems to apply here as the mixer is a bar mixer which have NRVs in
them. As do /most/ thermostatic mixers.


I've had numerous run ins with Water Board twonks who wouldn't accept the
three inlet & three oulet vales in the pump head of a pressure washer as
accceptable.


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On 26 Jan, 23:16, wrote:
The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while
the shower continues to flow whilst submerged.


Thought that was against water regulations because of possible back
syphoning ?


Water By Laws (AIUI) control the _positioning_ of the shower, such
that the hose won't have enough reach to allow this to happen. They
recognise that they haven't a hope of controlling people's behaviour
when using it.

So it was Arthur's (possibly a plumber's, but this is uk.d-i-y) fault,
not his wife's.


I haven't fixed the sliding bar to the wall yet as the wall isn't tiled yet.
And anyway...wife type person should know that running hot water is money
running.
Ah! I forgot to tell her that bit.

A




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On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:43:34 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:

Ed Sirett wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:16:36 +0000, fictitious wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:07:02 -0000, "Arthur2"
wrote:

Hi all.
The wife often lets our 6 year soak in the bath water while the
shower continues to flow whilst submerged. Does this have a
detrimental effect on the combi?

Thanks.

Arthur


Thought that was against water regulations because of possible back
syphoning ?



AIUI this is not a problem provided one of the following is met.


1) The installation can't back syphon because the hose can't reach. 2)
The shower is electric or has built in non-return valves. 3) The shower
is not run from the mains water.

(2) seems to apply here as the mixer is a bar mixer which have NRVs in
them. As do /most/ thermostatic mixers.


I've had numerous run ins with Water Board twonks who wouldn't accept
the three inlet & three oulet vales in the pump head of a pressure
washer as accceptable.


Are pressure washers banned or something where you live?
Are these twonks actively searching for users or just you? ;-)


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Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html
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