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meuharris December 28th 08 12:47 AM

a carbon steel blade?
 
I got a garden knife some years (10?) ago and it was the sharpest I
had ever used -like cut glass. .
It was serrated and it would cut through small branches like butter
(we used them for pruning young trees)
The downside was it was really brittle and if you were tempted to
push it instead of drawing it towards you it would snap.
Would that have been a carbon steel blade?
Where could I order them from (I don't seem to have much joy in
googling *carbon steel blade* so maybe it is some other manufacturing
method.....

Steve Firth December 28th 08 01:26 AM

a carbon steel blade?
 
meuharris wrote:

I got a garden knife some years (10?) ago and it was the sharpest I
had ever used -like cut glass. .
It was serrated and it would cut through small branches like butter
(we used them for pruning young trees)
The downside was it was really brittle and if you were tempted to
push it instead of drawing it towards you it would snap.
Would that have been a carbon steel blade?
Where could I order them from (I don't seem to have much joy in
googling *carbon steel blade* so maybe it is some other manufacturing
method.....


Are you sure this was a knife and not a pruning saw?

For knives, I would be surprised if you couldn't find a particular style
of knife he

http://www.worldknives.com/catalog.php

But I have the suspicion that what you actually had was something like
this:

http://tinyurl.com/6smpxf

http://tinyurl.com/94rtqy

These look like folding knives but they are saws that cut on the pull
stroke. The design of the teeth gives a smooth cut and it takes very
little effort to cut through even thick branches. As you say, the blades
are usually high carbon steel and they are brittle and can be easily
broken.

I prune several hundred trees a year and use a combination of a chainsaw
and one of the Felco folding pruning saws. Felco tools are fairly
standard for professional use, since they offer a good price/performance
balance.

Don[_10_] December 28th 08 01:33 AM

a carbon steel blade?
 

"meuharris" wrote in message
...
I got a garden knife some years (10?) ago and it was the sharpest I
had ever used -like cut glass. .
It was serrated and it would cut through small branches like butter
(we used them for pruning young trees)
The downside was it was really brittle and if you were tempted to
push it instead of drawing it towards you it would snap.
Would that have been a carbon steel blade?
Where could I order them from (I don't seem to have much joy in
googling *carbon steel blade* so maybe it is some other manufacturing
method.....


Was it a Japanese pull saw by any chance?
http://www.woodworkprojects.co.uk/shop.htm

Don.



Dave Baker December 28th 08 11:42 AM

a carbon steel blade?
 
meuharris wrote:
I got a garden knife some years (10?) ago and it was the sharpest I
had ever used -like cut glass. .
It was serrated and it would cut through small branches like butter
(we used them for pruning young trees)
The downside was it was really brittle and if you were tempted to
push it instead of drawing it towards you it would snap.
Would that have been a carbon steel blade?
Where could I order them from (I don't seem to have much joy in
googling *carbon steel blade* so maybe it is some other manufacturing
method.....


What you had was probably a pruning saw. Sharpened to cut on the pull stroke
rather than the push stroke like a conventional saw has two advantages. You
can use it more easily in confined spaces and when it's working the blade is
in tension rather than compression so it can be harder and more brittle
because it'll be less likely to bend and break. That means it can take a
longer lasting edge. The disadvantage is you can't put as much down force
into the cut as you can when pushing a saw.

Brittleness in steel is mainly a function of the hardness rather than the
carbon content. A blade heat treated to very high hardness levels will hold
an edge for longer but snap easily. A softer blade will blunt quickly but be
easier to resharpen. The trick is getting the balance right. If it was plain
carbon steel it would have rusted quickly after outdoor use and if it was
stainless steel it wouldn't. That might tell you more about what it was made
from. Spring steel, about the most elastic steel you can make is actually
just a plain carbon steel heat treated and then tempered back to reduce the
hardness.
--
Dave Baker




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