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Tim Downie December 14th 08 11:55 AM

Fire extinguisher refill
 
A bit OT as it's not DIY but does anyone know approximately how much it
costs to refill a 5kg CO2 extinguisher?

I found an empty one the other day in good condition. I don't really need a
CO2 extinguisher but the magppie in me hates to see it going to waste. ;-)

Tim



Micky Savage[_2_] December 14th 08 01:56 PM

Fire extinguisher refill
 

"Tim Downie" wrote in message
...
A bit OT as it's not DIY but does anyone know approximately how much it
costs to refill a 5kg CO2 extinguisher?

I found an empty one the other day in good condition. I don't really need
a CO2 extinguisher but the magppie in me hates to see it going to waste.
;-)

Tim

Check the date on top of the cyclinder, before you fill it.


Regards.

Micky



PCPaul December 14th 08 02:18 PM

Fire extinguisher refill
 
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:56:39 +0000, Micky Savage wrote:

"Tim Downie" wrote in message
...
A bit OT as it's not DIY but does anyone know approximately how much it
costs to refill a 5kg CO2 extinguisher?

I found an empty one the other day in good condition. I don't really
need a CO2 extinguisher but the magppie in me hates to see it going to
waste. ;-)

Tim

Check the date on top of the cyclinder, before you fill it.



Definitely - you'll be lucky to find anyone who'll fill it if it's out of
test (out of date). And getting it retested costs more than the Chinese
extinguishers that are all over the place now.

geoff December 14th 08 04:08 PM

Fire extinguisher refill
 
In message , Tim Downie
writes
A bit OT as it's not DIY but does anyone know approximately how much it
costs to refill a 5kg CO2 extinguisher?

I found an empty one the other day in good condition. I don't really need a
CO2 extinguisher but the magppie in me hates to see it going to waste. ;-)

http://www.completefireprotection.com/

maintain my extinguishers

ask them

Whether the extinguisher itself is useable or not (they have an expiry
date too) is a different question


--
geoff

[email protected] December 14th 08 05:44 PM

Fire extinguisher refill
 
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:55:06 -0000, "Tim Downie"
wrote:

A bit OT as it's not DIY but does anyone know approximately how much it
costs to refill a 5kg CO2 extinguisher?

I found an empty one the other day in good condition. I don't really need a
CO2 extinguisher but the magppie in me hates to see it going to waste. ;-)

Tim


I took one to a place in Glasgow ( M&S Fire Protection)a few months
ago but it was black so they wouldn't refill it without testing it and
repainting it( must be red now) and that would have cost almost as
much as buying a new one which I did . It was either £29 or £39 and
that was a 2KG exting'r.


Tim Downie December 14th 08 08:32 PM

Fire extinguisher refill
 

"Micky Savage" wrote in message
...

"Tim Downie" wrote in message
...
A bit OT as it's not DIY but does anyone know approximately how much it
costs to refill a 5kg CO2 extinguisher?

I found an empty one the other day in good condition. I don't really
need a CO2 extinguisher but the magppie in me hates to see it going to
waste. ;-)

Tim

Check the date on top of the cyclinder, before you fill it.


July 04. How often do they need tested?

Tim


MikeS December 14th 08 10:58 PM

Fire extinguisher refill
 

"Tim Downie" wrote in message
...

"Micky Savage" wrote in message
...

"Tim Downie" wrote in message
...
A bit OT as it's not DIY but does anyone know approximately how much it
costs to refill a 5kg CO2 extinguisher?

I found an empty one the other day in good condition. I don't really
need a CO2 extinguisher but the magppie in me hates to see it going to
waste. ;-)

Tim

Check the date on top of the cyclinder, before you fill it.


July 04. How often do they need tested?



Weight test and check pressure is ok every year. Back to manufacturers every
10 years.



Dave December 15th 08 08:04 PM

Fire extinguisher refill
 
wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:55:06 -0000, "Tim Downie"
wrote:

A bit OT as it's not DIY but does anyone know approximately how much it
costs to refill a 5kg CO2 extinguisher?

I found an empty one the other day in good condition. I don't really need a
CO2 extinguisher but the magppie in me hates to see it going to waste. ;-)

Tim


I took one to a place in Glasgow ( M&S Fire Protection)a few months
ago but it was black so they wouldn't refill it without testing it and
repainting it( must be red now) and that would have cost almost as
much as buying a new one which I did . It was either £29 or £39 and
that was a 2KG extinguisher.


I have never understood why all extinguishers were made red.

Dave


Don[_10_] December 15th 08 08:22 PM

Fire extinguisher refill
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:55:06 -0000, "Tim Downie"
wrote:

A bit OT as it's not DIY but does anyone know approximately how much it
costs to refill a 5kg CO2 extinguisher?

I found an empty one the other day in good condition. I don't really
need a CO2 extinguisher but the magppie in me hates to see it going to
waste. ;-)

Tim


I took one to a place in Glasgow ( M&S Fire Protection)a few months
ago but it was black so they wouldn't refill it without testing it and
repainting it( must be red now) and that would have cost almost as
much as buying a new one which I did . It was either £29 or £39 and
that was a 2KG extinguisher.


I have never understood why all extinguishers were made red.

Dave


Originally they were coloured;

Water = Signal Red
Foam = Cream
Dry powder = French Blue
Carbon dioxide = CO2 Black
Wet chemical = No F Class
Class D powder = French Blue

Don.



Pete Verdon December 15th 08 08:50 PM

Fire extinguisher refill
 
Don wrote:
"Dave" wrote


I have never understood why all extinguishers were made red.


Originally they were coloured;

Water = Signal Red
Foam = Cream
Dry powder = French Blue
Carbon dioxide = CO2 Black
Wet chemical = No F Class
Class D powder = French Blue


We know. That's why Dave was wondering why they're now all red.

(I believe it's a European harmonisation thing.)

Pete

Dave December 15th 08 09:37 PM

Fire extinguisher refill
 
Pete Verdon wrote:
Don wrote:
"Dave" wrote


I have never understood why all extinguishers were made red.


Originally they were coloured;

Water = Signal Red
Foam = Cream
Dry powder = French Blue
Carbon dioxide = CO2 Black
Wet chemical = No F Class
Class D powder = French Blue


We know. That's why Dave was wondering why they're now all red.

(I believe it's a European harmonisation thing.)


Presumably so I can pick up a fire extinguisher and point it an
electrical fire and see the water hit it, just as it snuffs my life out.
These days, I walk away from fires and I have fought some big ones when
I was younger, but only because I knew the colour code.

Dave

Appin December 17th 08 12:08 AM

Fire extinguisher refill
 
The message
from Dave contains these words:

Pete Verdon wrote:
Don wrote:
"Dave" wrote


I have never understood why all extinguishers were made red.


Originally they were coloured;

Water = Signal Red
Foam = Cream
Dry powder = French Blue
Carbon dioxide = CO2 Black
Wet chemical = No F Class
Class D powder = French Blue


We know. That's why Dave was wondering why they're now all red.

(I believe it's a European harmonisation thing.)


Presumably so I can pick up a fire extinguisher and point it an
electrical fire and see the water hit it, just as it snuffs my life out.


Precisely.

They claim it's so that people can identify a fire extinguisher !

The same crazy logic which demands that there should be water fire
extinguishers available in locations where the only conceivable risk is
of an electrical fire, and now demands that the water and powder
extinguishers should be so similar that the only difference is in the
colour of the label.

Mad, mad, mad.

Bob Mannix December 18th 08 08:17 AM

Fire extinguisher refill
 
"Appin" wrote in message
...
The message
from Dave contains these words:

Pete Verdon wrote:
Don wrote:
"Dave" wrote

I have never understood why all extinguishers were made red.

Originally they were coloured;

Water = Signal Red
Foam = Cream
Dry powder = French Blue
Carbon dioxide = CO2 Black
Wet chemical = No F Class
Class D powder = French Blue

We know. That's why Dave was wondering why they're now all red.

(I believe it's a European harmonisation thing.)


Presumably so I can pick up a fire extinguisher and point it an
electrical fire and see the water hit it, just as it snuffs my life out.


Precisely.

They claim it's so that people can identify a fire extinguisher !

The same crazy logic which demands that there should be water fire
extinguishers available in locations where the only conceivable risk is
of an electrical fire, and now demands that the water and powder
extinguishers should be so similar that the only difference is in the
colour of the label.


Water fire extinguishers are provided in corridors etc, for tackiling office
paper fires through the door. Inside offices with, eg, computers, there
should be CO2 fire extinguishers. The colour coding still exists on the
label and water fire extinguishers are fairly easily discernible from CO2
ones but the change from whole body colouring to the label seeems to be
universally condemned as...

Mad, mad, mad.


even if more red was needed to signify it was a fire extinguisher

--
Bob Mannix
(anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not)



Appin December 18th 08 11:23 AM

Fire extinguisher refill
 
The message
from "Bob Mannix" contains these words:


The same crazy logic which demands that there should be water fire
extinguishers available in locations where the only conceivable risk is
of an electrical fire, and now demands that the water and powder
extinguishers should be so similar that the only difference is in the
colour of the label.


Water fire extinguishers are provided in corridors etc, for tackiling
office
paper fires through the door. Inside offices with, eg, computers, there
should be CO2 fire extinguishers. The colour coding still exists on the
label and water fire extinguishers are fairly easily discernible from CO2
ones but the change from whole body colouring to the label seeems to be
universally condemned as...


I was thinking of the sanctuary area of a church. No candles. No
smoking going on. Only reasonably conceivable risk would be from
electrical sources.

geoff December 18th 08 11:13 PM

Fire extinguisher refill
 
In message , Appin
writes
The message
from "Bob Mannix" contains these words:


The same crazy logic which demands that there should be water fire
extinguishers available in locations where the only conceivable risk is
of an electrical fire, and now demands that the water and powder
extinguishers should be so similar that the only difference is in the
colour of the label.


Water fire extinguishers are provided in corridors etc, for tackiling
office
paper fires through the door. Inside offices with, eg, computers, there
should be CO2 fire extinguishers. The colour coding still exists on the
label and water fire extinguishers are fairly easily discernible from CO2
ones but the change from whole body colouring to the label seeems to be
universally condemned as...


I was thinking of the sanctuary area of a church. No candles. No
smoking going on. Only reasonably conceivable risk would be from
electrical sources.


you forgot burning bushes, bolts of lightning etc

Stock in trade for your average deity


--
geoff

Grimly Curmudgeon December 19th 08 12:37 AM

Fire extinguisher refill
 
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Tim Downie"
saying something like:

A bit OT as it's not DIY but does anyone know approximately how much it
costs to refill a 5kg CO2 extinguisher?


On this very subject I came across mention of filling it yourself, so it
can be DIY. Somebody here posted a link about filling CO2 cartridges and
from that there was something else about fire extinguishers.
Obviously, it wouldn't meet with any approval, but even a DIYd fire
extinguisher is better than buggerall.

geoff December 19th 08 01:02 AM

Fire extinguisher refill
 
In message , Grimly Curmudgeon
writes
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Tim Downie"
saying something like:

A bit OT as it's not DIY but does anyone know approximately how much it
costs to refill a 5kg CO2 extinguisher?


On this very subject I came across mention of filling it yourself, so it
can be DIY. Somebody here posted a link about filling CO2 cartridges and
from that there was something else about fire extinguishers.
Obviously, it wouldn't meet with any approval, but even a DIYd fire
extinguisher is better than buggerall.


unless an insco get involved, in which case there could be problems


--
geoff


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