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These quarry tiles are a bit chunky
http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/tiles.jpg
Well, somewhat chunkier than I expected. Are they normally that thick (about 20mm)? They do come up *very* easily with an SDS and a cranked wide chisel. Easier than the bl**dy worktop came out - that was well and truely wedged between the wall and the airing cupboard. Generally 'twas a good day at the Bungalow - got 8 hours straight in today, brought all the right tools down, no faffing. Got the rest of the kitchen ripped out and saved the better cupboards for re-use somewhere else: Bit in the middle is my new workbench :) http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/cabinets.jpg Love the original decor(!): http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/kitchen-1.jpg And curses to that gas pipe - right where a new wall is going. Didn't expect it to meander round the left hand wall. Looks like I'll be getting into gas a bit sooner than expected. I have a gas question brewing, but I'm off the read the gas FAQ again, then I'll ask it... Cheers Tim |
These quarry tiles are a bit chunky
Tim S wrote:
http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/tiles.jpg http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/cabinets.jpg http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/kitchen-1.jpg Can't get any of those to work Tim. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
These quarry tiles are a bit chunky
Tim S wrote:
http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/tiles.jpg Pictures not loading Tim. Is that Alveston as in http://www.alveston.org/ ? |
These quarry tiles are a bit chunky
On Nov 20, 12:38*am, Tim S wrote:
http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/tiles.jpg Well, somewhat chunkier than I expected. Are they normally that thick (about 20mm)? They do come up *very* easily with an SDS and a cranked wide chisel. Easier than the bl**dy worktop came out - that was well and truely wedged between the wall and the airing cupboard. Generally 'twas a good day at the Bungalow - got 8 hours straight in today, brought all the right tools down, no faffing. Got the rest of the kitchen ripped out and saved the better cupboards for re-use somewhere else: Bit in the middle is my new workbench :) http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/cabinets.jpg Love the original decor(!): http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/kitchen-1.jpg And curses to that gas pipe - right where a new wall is going. Didn't expect it to meander round the left hand wall. Looks like I'll be getting into gas a bit sooner than expected. I have a gas question brewing, but I'm off the read the gas FAQ again, then I'll ask it... Cheers Tim Don't throw the quarry tiles away, they are worth 50p each at the salvage yard. |
These quarry tiles are a bit chunky
On Nov 20, 8:22*am, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: Tim S wrote: http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/tiles.jpg http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/cabinets.jpg http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/kitchen-1.jpg Can't get any of those to work Tim. No probs here. MBQ |
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www.GymRatZ.co.uk coughed up some electrons that declared:
Tim S wrote: http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/tiles.jpg Pictures not loading Tim. Is that Alveston as in http://www.alveston.org/ ? [reply aimed at Dave TMH too] No, it's exactly as I posted... Can you ping 81.2.78.41? If not, there's a routing problem between our two ISPs, or you got unlucky and tried when my ADSL fell over. If you can, must be a DNS problem - I'd like to look into that so any feedback would be helpful. Webserver's running at home off ADSL. Cheers Tim |
These quarry tiles are a bit chunky
chudford coughed up some electrons that declared:
On Nov 20, 12:38*am, Tim S wrote: http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/tiles.jpg Well, somewhat chunkier than I expected. Are they normally that thick (about 20mm)? They do come up *very* easily with an SDS and a cranked wide chisel. Easier than the bl**dy worktop came out - that was well and truely wedged between the wall and the airing cupboard. Generally 'twas a good day at the Bungalow - got 8 hours straight in today, brought all the right tools down, no faffing. Got the rest of the kitchen ripped out and saved the better cupboards for re-use somewhere else: Bit in the middle is my new workbench :) http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/cabinets.jpg Love the original decor(!): http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/kitchen-1.jpg And curses to that gas pipe - right where a new wall is going. Didn't expect it to meander round the left hand wall. Looks like I'll be getting into gas a bit sooner than expected. I have a gas question brewing, but I'm off the read the gas FAQ again, then I'll ask it... Cheers Tim Don't throw the quarry tiles away, they are worth 50p each at the salvage yard. Indeed - even better, as they are the originals from the 50's when the house was built, I'm going to keep them and reuse them as a small feature somewhere in the garden. They're coming out because as you can see they've been rather abused with adhesive from those crappy yellow tiles and room layout modifications mean that I'd be unlikely to be able to repair a layout using them very well. But for outside, if they look a bit rough that'll probably be OK. Cheers Tim |
These quarry tiles are a bit chunky
Can you ping 81.2.78.41?
no If not, there's a routing problem between our two ISPs, or you got unlucky and tried when my ADSL fell over. If you can, must be a DNS problem - I'd like to look into that so any feedback would be helpful. Doesn't look like DNS: see tracert results below. Tracing route to mothra.dionic.net [81.2.78.41] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.123.254 2 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms 10.181.40.1 3 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms osr01dals-v11.network.virginmedia.net [62.30.144.129] 4 9 ms 7 ms 7 ms osr01hari-tenge72.network.virginmedia.net [62.30.250.29] 5 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms osr02hari-v99.network.virginmedia.net [195.182.179.82] 6 8 ms 9 ms 7 ms pop-bb-b-ge-200-0.network.virginmedia.net [195.182.178.169 ] 7 11 ms 13 ms 11 ms nth-bb-a-as1-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.64.17] 8 12 ms 11 ms 10 ms nth-bb-b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.185.118] 9 12 ms 15 ms 13 ms tele-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.184.2] 10 12 ms 13 ms 13 ms ge-1-3-0-309.picasso.as34270.net [195.66.225.36] 11 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms ge-3-0-0-0.raphael.as34270.net [85.91.232.2] 12 15 ms 13 ms 14 ms no-dns-yet.inetc.co.uk [85.91.232.30] 13 10 ms 12 ms 11 ms abovenet.aimless.aaisp.net.uk [213.161.69.150] 14 11 ms 11 ms 13 ms careless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.81.72] 15 40 ms 40 ms 67 ms 81.2.78.28 16 45 ms 41 ms 46 ms warpfield.dionic.net [81.2.78.46] 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 * * -- Robin |
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neverwas coughed up some electrons that declared:
Can you ping 81.2.78.41? no If not, there's a routing problem between our two ISPs, or you got unlucky and tried when my ADSL fell over. If you can, must be a DNS problem - I'd like to look into that so any feedback would be helpful. Doesn't look like DNS: see tracert results below. Tracing route to mothra.dionic.net [81.2.78.41] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.123.254 2 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms 10.181.40.1 3 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms osr01dals-v11.network.virginmedia.net snip 14 11 ms 11 ms 13 ms careless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.81.72] My ISP 15 40 ms 40 ms 67 ms 81.2.78.28 My ADSL router 16 45 ms 41 ms 46 ms warpfield.dionic.net [81.2.78.46] My firewall+internal router How odd... The web server in question hasn't been down in the last few days and you make it as far as my internal router (a Linksys, reloaded with my own cut of OpenWRT). The mystery deepens. Thanks for the very detailed diagnostic - later, when I'm back home, I'll have a look at my logs. I need to rebuild my router and web server anyway, but even so, this should not be happening... Cheers Tim |
These quarry tiles are a bit chunky
Tim S wrote:
www.GymRatZ.co.uk coughed up some electrons that declared: Tim S wrote: http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/tiles.jpg Pictures not loading Tim. Is that Alveston as in http://www.alveston.org/ ? No I mean the village Alveston, South glos. where I have spent the first 25 years of my life. :¬) No, it's exactly as I posted... Can you ping 81.2.78.41? Pinging 81.2.78.41 with 64 bytes of Data: Request timed out !!! Request timed out !!! Request timed out !!! Request timed out !!! Request timed out !!! Packets: Sent = 5, Received = 0, Lost = 5 (100% loss) Could be a Be*/O2 network problem, My secondary DNS which is set to openDNS kicked in earlier in place of the Be* DNS server. -- http://www.GymRatZ.co.uk - Fitness+Gym Equipment. http://www.bodysolid-gym-equipment.co.uk http://www.trade-price-supplements.co.uk http://www.water-rower.co.uk |
These quarry tiles are a bit chunky
Tim S wrote:
neverwas coughed up some electrons that declared: Can you ping 81.2.78.41? no If not, there's a routing problem between our two ISPs, or you got unlucky and tried when my ADSL fell over. If you can, must be a DNS problem - I'd like to look into that so any feedback would be helpful. Doesn't look like DNS: see tracert results below. Tracing route to mothra.dionic.net [81.2.78.41] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.123.254 2 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms 10.181.40.1 3 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms osr01dals-v11.network.virginmedia.net snip 14 11 ms 11 ms 13 ms careless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.81.72] My ISP 15 40 ms 40 ms 67 ms 81.2.78.28 My ADSL router 16 45 ms 41 ms 46 ms warpfield.dionic.net [81.2.78.46] My firewall+internal router How odd... The web server in question hasn't been down in the last few days and you make it as far as my internal router (a Linksys, reloaded with my own cut of OpenWRT). The mystery deepens. Thanks for the very detailed diagnostic - later, when I'm back home, I'll have a look at my logs. I need to rebuild my router and web server anyway, but even so, this should not be happening... Cheers Tim No problem at all from here! 11/20/08 12:08:42 Fast traceroute 81.2.78.41 Trace 81.2.78.41 ... 1 10.0.1.1 1ms 1ms 1ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS) 2 10.151.228.1 9ms 12ms 9ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS) 3 62.253.122.5 11ms 8ms 28ms TTL: 0 (rdng-t2cam1-a-ge93.network.virginmedia.net ok) 4 195.182.178.101 12ms 12ms 10ms TTL: 0 (winn-t3core-1a-ge-014-0.network.virginmedia.net ok) 5 62.253.184.113 15ms * 9ms TTL: 0 (win-bb-a-so-130-0.network.virginmedia.net ok) 6 62.253.185.137 16ms 14ms 16ms TTL: 0 (man-bb-b-so-110-0.network.virginmedia.net ok) 7 213.105.64.21 19ms 22ms 22ms TTL: 0 (nth-bb-a-so-220-0.network.virginmedia.net ok) 8 62.253.185.118 17ms 19ms 35ms TTL: 0 (nth-bb-b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net ok) 9 62.253.184.2 22ms 24ms 20ms TTL: 0 (tele-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net ok) 10 195.66.225.36 19ms 21ms 18ms TTL: 0 (ge-1-3-0-309.picasso.as34270.net probable bogus rDNS: No DNS) 11 85.91.232.2 361ms 23ms 25ms TTL: 0 (ge-3-0-0-0.raphael.as34270.net probable bogus rDNS: No DNS) 12 85.91.232.30 34ms 19ms 19ms TTL: 0 (no-dns-yet.inetc.co.uk probable bogus rDNS: No DNS) 13 213.161.69.150 30ms 24ms 24ms TTL: 0 (abovenet.aimless.aaisp.net.uk ok) 14 81.187.81.72 47ms 23ms 24ms TTL: 0 (careless.aaisp.net.uk ok) 15 81.2.78.28 64ms 64ms 68ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS) 16 81.2.78.46 55ms 79ms 78ms TTL: 0 (warpfield.dionic.net ok) 17 81.2.78.41 74ms 64ms 81ms TTL: 52 (mothra.dionic.net ok) As you can see, I too am within virginmedia.net, thought it might be the same. -- Rod Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious onset. Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed. www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org |
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www.GymRatZ.co.uk coughed up some electrons that declared:
Tim S wrote: www.GymRatZ.co.uk coughed up some electrons that declared: Tim S wrote: http://www.dionic.net/Alveston/tiles.jpg Pictures not loading Tim. Is that Alveston as in http://www.alveston.org/ ? No I mean the village Alveston, South glos. where I have spent the first 25 years of my life. :¬) No, it's exactly as I posted... Ah. No, it's the house name. The village is Robertsbridge, East Sussex. Can you ping 81.2.78.41? Pinging 81.2.78.41 with 64 bytes of Data: Request timed out !!! Request timed out !!! Request timed out !!! Request timed out !!! Request timed out !!! Packets: Sent = 5, Received = 0, Lost = 5 (100% loss) Could be a Be*/O2 network problem, My secondary DNS which is set to openDNS kicked in earlier in place of the Be* DNS server. Hmm. That wouldn't affect a ping-by-IP. The only other thing is whether the routing for my netblock is missing from someone's core routers, but neverwas could ping my router, so the netblock is available to some people... Can you ping 81.2.78.46, or even do a traceroute/tracepath/tracert to it? I have an offsite account at Imperial College and that's able to reach my server. I've seen a couple of mail servers recently that couldn't contact me - I must look into this... Cheers Tim |
These quarry tiles are a bit chunky
neverwas coughed up some electrons that declared:
Can you ping 81.2.78.41? no If not, there's a routing problem between our two ISPs, or you got unlucky and tried when my ADSL fell over. If you can, must be a DNS problem - I'd like to look into that so any feedback would be helpful. Doesn't look like DNS: see tracert results below. Tracing route to mothra.dionic.net [81.2.78.41] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.123.254 2 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms 10.181.40.1 3 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms osr01dals-v11.network.virginmedia.net [62.30.144.129] 4 9 ms 7 ms 7 ms osr01hari-tenge72.network.virginmedia.net [62.30.250.29] 5 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms osr02hari-v99.network.virginmedia.net [195.182.179.82] 6 8 ms 9 ms 7 ms pop-bb-b-ge-200-0.network.virginmedia.net [195.182.178.169 ] 7 11 ms 13 ms 11 ms nth-bb-a-as1-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.64.17] 8 12 ms 11 ms 10 ms nth-bb-b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.185.118] 9 12 ms 15 ms 13 ms tele-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.184.2] 10 12 ms 13 ms 13 ms ge-1-3-0-309.picasso.as34270.net [195.66.225.36] 11 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms ge-3-0-0-0.raphael.as34270.net [85.91.232.2] 12 15 ms 13 ms 14 ms no-dns-yet.inetc.co.uk [85.91.232.30] 13 10 ms 12 ms 11 ms abovenet.aimless.aaisp.net.uk [213.161.69.150] 14 11 ms 11 ms 13 ms careless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.81.72] 15 40 ms 40 ms 67 ms 81.2.78.28 16 45 ms 41 ms 46 ms warpfield.dionic.net [81.2.78.46] 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 * * Hi, You may not be on this IP anymore, but, from my webserver: ping osr01dals-v11.network.virginmedia.net PING osr01dals-v11.network.virginmedia.net (62.30.144.129) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from osr01dals-v11.network.virginmedia.net (62.30.144.129): icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=37.9 ms 64 bytes from osr01dals-v11.network.virginmedia.net (62.30.144.129): icmp_seq=2 ttl=242 time=35.0 ms Hang on, let me reboot my core router in case it's having trouble... Done. Might be worth trying again. Sorry for the buggering about, been reliable until recently. Cheers Tim |
These quarry tiles are a bit chunky
"Tim S" wrote in message ... Hmm. That wouldn't affect a ping-by-IP. The only other thing is whether the routing for my netblock is missing from someone's core routers, but neverwas could ping my router, so the netblock is available to some people... Can you ping 81.2.78.46, or even do a traceroute/tracepath/tracert to it? I can't on sky. Tracing route to 81.2.78.46 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 36 ms 43 ms 35 ms cr1.cmtip.uk.easynet.net [195.189.159.91] 3 32 ms 31 ms 30 ms 82.111.105.129 4 35 ms 36 ms 35 ms be2.er10.thlon.ov.easynet.net [195.66.224.43] 5 37 ms 33 ms 34 ms ge3-0.pr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [195.66.224.76] 6 34 ms 34 ms 35 ms abovenet.aimless.aaisp.net.uk [213.161.69.150] 7 35 ms 35 ms 36 ms careless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.81.72] 8 71 ms 67 ms 72 ms 81.2.78.28 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 * * * Request timed out. 11 * * * Request timed out. 12 ^C Their dns gives up too. |
These quarry tiles are a bit chunky
Tim S wrote:
Can you ping 81.2.78.46, or even do a traceroute/tracepath/tracert to it? traceroute to 81.2.78.46, 30 hops max through WAN1 1 Request timed out. * 2 10.1.1.13 20 ms 3 213.161.72.69 20 ms 4 90.155.53.2 20 ms 5 81.187.81.72 20 ms 6 81.2.78.28 60 ms 7 Request timed out. * 8 Request timed out. * Trace complete. -- http://www.GymRatZ.co.uk - Fitness+Gym Equipment. http://www.bodysolid-gym-equipment.co.uk http://www.trade-price-supplements.co.uk http://www.water-rower.co.uk |
These quarry tiles are a bit chunky
Hang on, let me reboot my core router in case it's having trouble...
Done. Might be worth trying again. Tracert from here as before ends with 15 60 ms 69 ms 53 ms 81.2.78.28 16 58 ms 60 ms 70 ms warpfield.dionic.net [81.2.78.46] 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * I note that I and Dennis, who had problems, are behind routers (presumably both NAT routers) while Rod, who didn't. isn't. Have you configured your router to require more than the usual? (Please note the careful drafting to conceal the fact that my ignorance of TCP/IP is near-immaculate.) -- Robin |
These quarry tiles are a bit chunky
dennis@home coughed up some electrons that declared:
"Tim S" wrote in message ... Hmm. That wouldn't affect a ping-by-IP. The only other thing is whether the routing for my netblock is missing from someone's core routers, but neverwas could ping my router, so the netblock is available to some people... Can you ping 81.2.78.46, or even do a traceroute/tracepath/tracert to it? I can't on sky. Tracing route to 81.2.78.46 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 36 ms 43 ms 35 ms cr1.cmtip.uk.easynet.net [195.189.159.91] I can't ping or traceroute that ^^^ from either home or work (Zen) or Imperial College, the latter we may assume have a solid connection to the net. 3 32 ms 31 ms 30 ms 82.111.105.129 ping 82.111.105.129 PING 82.111.105.129 (82.111.105.129) 56(84) bytes of data. From 82.111.105.129 icmp_seq=5 Packet filtered All I can assume is that there is something weird going on(!). OK - to avoid wasting time, try this: http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ts/tiles.jpg http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ts/kitchen-1.jpg http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ts/cabinets.jpg If they don't work, it's almost certainly your ISP ;- But, worrying, all the same - I have a decent ISP, or so I thought... Cheers Tim 4 35 ms 36 ms 35 ms be2.er10.thlon.ov.easynet.net [195.66.224.43] 5 37 ms 33 ms 34 ms ge3-0.pr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [195.66.224.76] 6 34 ms 34 ms 35 ms abovenet.aimless.aaisp.net.uk [213.161.69.150] 7 35 ms 35 ms 36 ms careless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.81.72] 8 71 ms 67 ms 72 ms 81.2.78.28 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 * * * Request timed out. 11 * * * Request timed out. 12 ^C Their dns gives up too. |
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neverwas coughed up some electrons that declared:
Hang on, let me reboot my core router in case it's having trouble... Done. Might be worth trying again. Tracert from here as before ends with 15 60 ms 69 ms 53 ms 81.2.78.28 16 58 ms 60 ms 70 ms warpfield.dionic.net [81.2.78.46] 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * I note that I and Dennis, who had problems, are behind routers (presumably both NAT routers) while Rod, who didn't. isn't. Have you configured your router to require more than the usual? (Please note the careful drafting to conceal the fact that my ignorance of TCP/IP is near-immaculate.) Not especially - firewall rules are mostly port based and not clever... Shouldn't make any difference as it appears to me that your connections come from a public IP associated with the NAT gateway. Unless some ISPs are trying to be clever and block connections to netblocks associated with ADSL, but as far as I'm concerned that's broken behaviour... I can get to home from work and that's a NAT'ed connection too... Weird. |
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neverwas wrote:
Hang on, let me reboot my core router in case it's having trouble... Done. Might be worth trying again. Tracert from here as before ends with 15 60 ms 69 ms 53 ms 81.2.78.28 16 58 ms 60 ms 70 ms warpfield.dionic.net [81.2.78.46] 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * I note that I and Dennis, who had problems, are behind routers (presumably both NAT routers) while Rod, who didn't. isn't. Have you configured your router to require more than the usual? (Please note the careful drafting to conceal the fact that my ignorance of TCP/IP is near-immaculate.) Sorry to disabuse you of that - I *am* behind a router! (Apple Airport Extreme, and then, of course, ex-NTL cable modem.) -- Rod Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious onset. Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed. www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org |
These quarry tiles are a bit chunky
Tim S wrote:
OK - to avoid wasting time, try this: http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ts/tiles.jpg http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ts/kitchen-1.jpg http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ts/cabinets.jpg If they don't work, it's almost certainly your ISP ;- But, worrying, all the same - I have a decent ISP, or so I thought... That's good from here. Is that a real-life 1970's serving hatch? :¬) -- http://www.GymRatZ.co.uk - Fitness+Gym Equipment. http://www.bodysolid-gym-equipment.co.uk http://www.trade-price-supplements.co.uk http://www.water-rower.co.uk |
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www.GymRatZ.co.uk coughed up some electrons that declared:
Tim S wrote: OK - to avoid wasting time, try this: http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ts/tiles.jpg http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ts/kitchen-1.jpg http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ts/cabinets.jpg If they don't work, it's almost certainly your ISP ;- But, worrying, all the same - I have a decent ISP, or so I thought... That's good from here. Good :) Think I'll replicate bit's of my website up there. Is that a real-life 1970's serving hatch? Yes, I believe it might be. I'll probably have to get rid of it as I doubt my daughter will want random people saying hello into her bedroom from the kitchen ;- :¬) |
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www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:
Tim S wrote: OK - to avoid wasting time, try this: http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ts/tiles.jpg http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ts/kitchen-1.jpg http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ts/cabinets.jpg If they don't work, it's almost certainly your ISP ;- But, worrying, all the same - I have a decent ISP, or so I thought... That's good from here. Is that a real-life 1970's serving hatch? That worked for me too. Just tried the others & got "The page cannot be displayed". again (16:18) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
These quarry tiles are a bit chunky
Sorry to disabuse you of that - I *am* behind a router! (Apple Airport
Extreme, and then, of course, ex-NTL cable modem.) Disabuse is always welcome. It's a refreshing change from the plain kind (without the "dis"). -- Robin |
These quarry tiles are a bit chunky
neverwas wrote:
Sorry to disabuse you of that - I *am* behind a router! (Apple Airport Extreme, and then, of course, ex-NTL cable modem.) Disabuse is always welcome. It's a refreshing change from the plain kind (without the "dis"). Always liked words starting with dis-, probably mother's influence as she explained some of the oddities of doing crosswords many, many moons ago. My actual machine's ip is 10.0.1.112; 10.0.1.1 seems to be what the airport is. -- Rod Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious onset. Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed. www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org |
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Tim S wrote:
Not especially - firewall rules are mostly port based and not clever... Shouldn't make any difference as it appears to me that your connections come from a public IP associated with the NAT gateway. Unless some ISPs are trying to be clever and block connections to netblocks associated with ADSL, but as far as I'm concerned that's broken behaviour... ok he 1 27 ms 3 ms 4 ms 192.168.1.1 2 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms lo0-plusnet.thn-ag3.plus.net [195.166.128.80] 3 30 ms 31 ms 33 ms vl303.thn-gw2.plus.net [84.92.3.178] 4 32 ms 31 ms 37 ms vl23.pte-gw2.plus.net [212.159.4.28] 5 31 ms 31 ms 34 ms ge-1-3-0-309.picasso.as34270.net [195.66.225.36 6 38 ms 37 ms 36 ms ge-3-0-0-0.raphael.as34270.net [85.91.232.2] 7 33 ms 34 ms 35 ms no-dns-yet.inetc.co.uk [85.91.232.30] 8 41 ms 40 ms 33 ms thn.aimless.aaisp.net.uk [90.155.53.2] 9 38 ms 33 ms 37 ms careless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.81.72] 0 61 ms 65 ms 63 ms 81.2.78.28 1 66 ms 67 ms 62 ms warpfield.dionic.net [81.2.78.46] 2 63 ms 65 ms 61 ms mothra.dionic.net [81.2.78.41] -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"www.GymRatZ.co.uk" wrote in message ... Tim S wrote: Can you ping 81.2.78.46, or even do a traceroute/tracepath/tracert to it? traceroute to 81.2.78.46, 30 hops max through WAN1 1 Request timed out. * 2 10.1.1.13 20 ms 3 213.161.72.69 20 ms 4 90.155.53.2 20 ms 5 81.187.81.72 20 ms 6 81.2.78.28 60 ms 7 Request timed out. * 8 Request timed out. * Trace complete. This started off as a kitchen thread and has mutated into something seriously tedious. |
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My actual machine's ip is 10.0.1.112; 10.0.1.1 seems to be what the
airport is. Yep, thanks. My mistake was confusing your router with a Virginmedia UBR. One other thought for Tim. Any chance you are running with "Bogon filters" which include 77.96.0.0/13? ISTR that when IP addresses in that block were first used by Telewest there were some access problems because of out-of-date filters. But I could very well be disremembering. -- Robin |
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Tim S wrote:
Can you ping 81.2.78.41? Yes thanks. |
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Interesting:
DAve, your IP appeared to be NNTP-Posting-Host: 77.96.243.253 when you posted. Although someone else may have that IP right now, that shouldn;t affect anything, and I can ping it. |
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neverwas coughed up some electrons that declared:
My actual machine's ip is 10.0.1.112; 10.0.1.1 seems to be what the airport is. Yep, thanks. My mistake was confusing your router with a Virginmedia UBR. One other thought for Tim. Any chance you are running with "Bogon filters" which include 77.96.0.0/13? ISTR that when IP addresses in that block were first used by Telewest there were some access problems because of out-of-date filters. But I could very well be disremembering. Genius point. I've not reviewed the bogon list, having based my firewall off shorewall, and the bogon list is well out of date. I'm updating it and I now have a logging rule that fires if it trips on the bogon rule. I'll see how that goes... Cheers Tim |
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mark coughed up some electrons that declared:
"www.GymRatZ.co.uk" wrote in message ... Tim S wrote: Can you ping 81.2.78.46, or even do a traceroute/tracepath/tracert to it? traceroute to 81.2.78.46, 30 hops max through WAN1 1 Request timed out. * 2 10.1.1.13 20 ms 3 213.161.72.69 20 ms 4 90.155.53.2 20 ms 5 81.187.81.72 20 ms 6 81.2.78.28 60 ms 7 Request timed out. * 8 Request timed out. * Trace complete. This started off as a kitchen thread and has mutated into something seriously tedious. It's not tedious, it's DIY networking :) |
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neverwas coughed up some electrons that declared:
My actual machine's ip is 10.0.1.112; 10.0.1.1 seems to be what the airport is. Yep, thanks. My mistake was confusing your router with a Virginmedia UBR. One other thought for Tim. Any chance you are running with "Bogon filters" which include 77.96.0.0/13? ISTR that when IP addresses in that block were first used by Telewest there were some access problems because of out-of-date filters. But I could very well be disremembering. Yep, that was it. The old bogon list had 90/8 which, rather embarrasingly now contains a core route out from my ISP. Knowing I won't have time for the next year to maintain anything, took the bogon list back to the basic list of private and reserved addresses. Web****e will be accessible by all. Cheers Tim |
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Tim S wrote:
Interesting: DAve, your IP appeared to be NNTP-Posting-Host: 77.96.243.253 when you posted. Although someone else may have that IP right now, that shouldn;t affect anything, and I can ping it. Errm, well that's good then. Sorry Tim, didn't understand a single word of that :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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The Medway Handyman coughed up some electrons that declared:
Tim S wrote: Interesting: DAve, your IP appeared to be NNTP-Posting-Host: 77.96.243.253 when you posted. Although someone else may have that IP right now, that shouldn;t affect anything, and I can ping it. Errm, well that's good then. Sorry Tim, didn't understand a single word of that :-) S'ok, all fixed now. I built my firewall so long ago and it's been so reliable (ie untouched), I'd completely forgotton some of the details. All my fault, all fixed, so back to the DIY now... But thanks to all who took the time to traceroute etc as it did affirm the problem, so I can be confident I've fixed everything :) Cheers Tim |
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mark wrote:
"www.GymRatZ.co.uk" wrote in message ... Tim S wrote: Can you ping 81.2.78.46, or even do a traceroute/tracepath/tracert to it? traceroute to 81.2.78.46, 30 hops max through WAN1 1 Request timed out. * 2 10.1.1.13 20 ms 3 213.161.72.69 20 ms 4 90.155.53.2 20 ms 5 81.187.81.72 20 ms 6 81.2.78.28 60 ms 7 Request timed out. * 8 Request timed out. * Trace complete. This started off as a kitchen thread and has mutated into something seriously tedious. I was thinking it started out as a tedious kitchen thread and mutated into something quite interesting... each to his own ;-) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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John Rumm coughed up some electrons that declared:
mark wrote: "www.GymRatZ.co.uk" wrote in message ... Tim S wrote: Can you ping 81.2.78.46, or even do a traceroute/tracepath/tracert to it? traceroute to 81.2.78.46, 30 hops max through WAN1 1 Request timed out. * 2 10.1.1.13 20 ms 3 213.161.72.69 20 ms 4 90.155.53.2 20 ms 5 81.187.81.72 20 ms 6 81.2.78.28 60 ms 7 Request timed out. * 8 Request timed out. * Trace complete. This started off as a kitchen thread and has mutated into something seriously tedious. I was thinking it started out as a tedious kitchen thread and mutated into something quite interesting... each to his own ;-) Internet not work = me annoyed Kitchen not work = double testicular amputation ;- |
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John Rumm wrote:
mark wrote: "www.GymRatZ.co.uk" wrote in message ... Tim S wrote: Can you ping 81.2.78.46, or even do a traceroute/tracepath/tracert to it? traceroute to 81.2.78.46, 30 hops max through WAN1 1 Request timed out. * 2 10.1.1.13 20 ms 3 213.161.72.69 20 ms 4 90.155.53.2 20 ms 5 81.187.81.72 20 ms 6 81.2.78.28 60 ms 7 Request timed out. * 8 Request timed out. * Trace complete. This started off as a kitchen thread and has mutated into something seriously tedious. I was thinking it started out as a tedious kitchen thread and mutated into something quite interesting... each to his own ;-) It mutated into something I didn't understand :-( -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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Tim S wrote:
I was thinking it started out as a tedious kitchen thread and mutated into something quite interesting... each to his own ;-) Internet not work = me annoyed Kitchen not work = double testicular amputation ;- I can see that might focus your attention... (as I remember a marine training video once showed a way of getting captives to do as you want: You grab him by the goolies and move thus... he tends to go wherever you decide they go!) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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The Medway Handyman wrote:
I was thinking it started out as a tedious kitchen thread and mutated into something quite interesting... each to his own ;-) It mutated into something I didn't understand :-( Well in the grand scheme of things - not much of great complexity happened. Tim inadvertently told his firewall to discard incoming messages from certain origins, and it did. "Ping" is a command line program that squirts a "are you there" message to a remote computer and waits for a response. Traceroute is a posh version of ping that does the same but also elicits a response from each of the "in between" computers in the chain that connect you to the remote machine - hence you can see at what point in the chain the message goes AWOL. That pointed the finger of suspicion at the firewall, and Tim had words with it. Job done. Simple huh? ;-) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message om... It mutated into something I didn't understand :-( You need to call the Medway network man if you get a problem then. |
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