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Graham.[_2_] November 14th 08 04:14 PM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 
I just saw an "expert" on "Flog It tell a guy always to keep
his barometer upright, an never ever lie it down.

This was an aneroid, not a mercury barometer by the way.
Does the team agree that this "expert" deserves these inverted
commas?

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



[email protected] November 14th 08 04:30 PM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:14:10 -0000, "Graham." wrote:

I just saw an "expert" on "Flog It tell a guy always to keep
his barometer upright, an never ever lie it down.

This was an aneroid, not a mercury barometer by the way.
Does the team agree that this "expert" deserves these inverted
commas?


Maybe he has had problems in his past with Aneroids .
Name and shame him . Was it Paul Martin ?

Andy Dingley November 14th 08 04:39 PM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 
On 14 Nov, 16:14, "Graham." wrote:
I just saw an "expert" on "Flog It tell a guy always to keep
his barometer upright, an never ever lie it down.


As advice aimed at an audience that watches daytime TV, then it's not
too bad. You don't want them spilling mercury, I doubt if many could
spell aneroid let alone tell what sort of barometer they had.

Andy Cap November 14th 08 05:13 PM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:30:01 +0000, wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:14:10 -0000, "Graham." wrote:

I just saw an "expert" on "Flog It tell a guy always to keep
his barometer upright, an never ever lie it down.

This was an aneroid, not a mercury barometer by the way.
Does the team agree that this "expert" deserves these inverted
commas?


Maybe he has had problems in his past with Aneroids .
Name and shame him . Was it Paul Martin ?


I'm pretty sure it was James Lewis of Bamfords. He said that Mr Bamford had
extensively researched barometers and the name on the back of this particular
one was not on the list. though he was a known London clockmaker.

Andy

[email protected] November 14th 08 05:18 PM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:39:02 -0800 (PST), Andy Dingley
wrote:

On 14 Nov, 16:14, "Graham." wrote:
I just saw an "expert" on "Flog It tell a guy always to keep
his barometer upright, an never ever lie it down.


As advice aimed at an audience that watches daytime TV, then it's not
too bad. You don't want them spilling mercury, I doubt if many could
spell aneroid let alone tell what sort of barometer they had.


Is the mercury not sealed in? Is it not to prevent the mercury
splitting with the problem of getting it all back together again?

Rod November 14th 08 05:44 PM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 
wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:39:02 -0800 (PST), Andy Dingley
wrote:

On 14 Nov, 16:14, "Graham." wrote:
I just saw an "expert" on "Flog It tell a guy always to keep
his barometer upright, an never ever lie it down.

As advice aimed at an audience that watches daytime TV, then it's not
too bad. You don't want them spilling mercury, I doubt if many could
spell aneroid let alone tell what sort of barometer they had.


Is the mercury not sealed in? Is it not to prevent the mercury
splitting with the problem of getting it all back together again?


Last time I looked closely at one, it was 'sealed' by what I assume was
a small piece of animal skin, tied. The sort of seal that keeps dust
out, not mercury in - I doubt it would have been strong enough to hold
back the weight of the mercury when still, let alone when sloshing around.

--
Rod

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Andrew Gabriel November 14th 08 05:58 PM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 
In article ,
writes:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:14:10 -0000, "Graham." wrote:

I just saw an "expert" on "Flog It tell a guy always to keep
his barometer upright, an never ever lie it down.

This was an aneroid, not a mercury barometer by the way.
Does the team agree that this "expert" deserves these inverted
commas?


Maybe he has had problems in his past with Aneroids .


Or was it hemeroids, and he couldn't sit down? ;-)

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Andrew Gabriel
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Kevin Poole[_6_] November 14th 08 07:13 PM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 


Rod wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:39:02 -0800 (PST), Andy Dingley
wrote:

On 14 Nov, 16:14, "Graham." wrote:
I just saw an "expert" on "Flog It tell a guy always to keep
his barometer upright, an never ever lie it down.
As advice aimed at an audience that watches daytime TV, then it's not
too bad. You don't want them spilling mercury, I doubt if many could
spell aneroid let alone tell what sort of barometer they had.


Is the mercury not sealed in? Is it not to prevent the mercury
splitting with the problem of getting it all back together again?


Last time I looked closely at one, it was 'sealed' by what I assume was
a small piece of animal skin, tied. The sort of seal that keeps dust
out, not mercury in - I doubt it would have been strong enough to hold
back the weight of the mercury when still, let alone when sloshing around.


There are two problems transporting a typical mercury wheel barometer.
If you don't tilt it at all the mercury bounces around, and will very
easily punch the end out of the top of the tube, as it will if you lie
it down too quickly. If you lay it flat, it dribbles out of the
reservoir end of the tube. I always recline them, gently, until the
mercury is firmly up to the top of the bulb, then plug the open end with
either a cork or something similar, and carry them at an angle.

I would be very surprised if James Lewis didn't know this - I've been to
many of his auctions, and he's always struck me as bright and
knowledgeable. He's also an excellent auctioneer, who can push over 180
lots per hour through without appearing to hurry.

As Andy says - it's a lot less messy if you treat them all as mercury
rather than all as aneroid.

--
Kevin Poole
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www.GymRatZ.co.uk November 14th 08 09:36 PM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 
wrote:

Maybe he has had problems in his past with Aneroids .


I think we are all afflicted with them at some time in our life.
8¬O

Pete

Don[_10_] November 14th 08 09:47 PM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 

"www.GymRatZ.co.uk" wrote in
message ...
wrote:

Maybe he has had problems in his past with Aneroids .


I think we are all afflicted with them at some time in our life.
8¬O

Pete


Yep, they took mine out along with my tonsils when I was six ;-)

Don.



[email protected] November 14th 08 09:58 PM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:47:41 -0000, "Don"
wrote:


"www.GymRatZ.co.uk" wrote in
message ...
wrote:

Maybe he has had problems in his past with Aneroids .


I think we are all afflicted with them at some time in our life.
8¬O

Pete


Yep, they took mine out along with my tonsils when I was six ;-)

Don.


Strange place to have your tonsils ?

Graham.[_2_] November 14th 08 10:16 PM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 


"Kevin Poole" wrote in message
...


Rod wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:39:02 -0800 (PST), Andy Dingley
wrote:

On 14 Nov, 16:14, "Graham." wrote:
I just saw an "expert" on "Flog It tell a guy always to keep
his barometer upright, an never ever lie it down.
As advice aimed at an audience that watches daytime TV, then it's not
too bad. You don't want them spilling mercury, I doubt if many could
spell aneroid let alone tell what sort of barometer they had.

Is the mercury not sealed in? Is it not to prevent the mercury
splitting with the problem of getting it all back together again?


Last time I looked closely at one, it was 'sealed' by what I assume was a
small piece of animal skin, tied. The sort of seal that keeps dust out,
not mercury in - I doubt it would have been strong enough to hold back
the weight of the mercury when still, let alone when sloshing around.


There are two problems transporting a typical mercury wheel barometer. If
you don't tilt it at all the mercury bounces around, and will very easily
punch the end out of the top of the tube, as it will if you lie it down
too quickly. If you lay it flat, it dribbles out of the reservoir end of
the tube. I always recline them, gently, until the mercury is firmly up
to the top of the bulb, then plug the open end with either a cork or
something similar, and carry them at an angle.

I would be very surprised if James Lewis didn't know this - I've been to
many of his auctions, and he's always struck me as bright and
knowledgeable. He's also an excellent auctioneer, who can push over 180
lots per hour through without appearing to hurry.

As Andy says - it's a lot less messy if you treat them all as mercury
rather than all as aneroid.


Sounds to me that this wasn't an aneroid instrument at all,
it just looked like one. (the word means "dry")
I hadn't heard of a mercury wheel barometer until you mentioned
it. Can you point me to a diagram on how it works, I cant find one.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Dave Liquorice[_2_] November 14th 08 10:17 PM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:18:02 +0000, wrote:

Is the mercury not sealed in?


Engage brain how could air pressure shove down on the reservior pushing
the column of mercury up the tube if it was sealed in...

is it not to prevent the mercury splitting with the problem of getting
it all back together again?


Are you thinking thermometer not barometer? Thermometers are sealed.

--
Cheers
Dave.




[email protected] November 14th 08 10:21 PM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:16:02 -0000, "Graham." wrote:



"Kevin Poole" wrote in message
...


Rod wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:39:02 -0800 (PST), Andy Dingley
wrote:

On 14 Nov, 16:14, "Graham." wrote:
I just saw an "expert" on "Flog It tell a guy always to keep
his barometer upright, an never ever lie it down.
As advice aimed at an audience that watches daytime TV, then it's not
too bad. You don't want them spilling mercury, I doubt if many could
spell aneroid let alone tell what sort of barometer they had.

Is the mercury not sealed in? Is it not to prevent the mercury
splitting with the problem of getting it all back together again?

Last time I looked closely at one, it was 'sealed' by what I assume was a
small piece of animal skin, tied. The sort of seal that keeps dust out,
not mercury in - I doubt it would have been strong enough to hold back
the weight of the mercury when still, let alone when sloshing around.


There are two problems transporting a typical mercury wheel barometer. If
you don't tilt it at all the mercury bounces around, and will very easily
punch the end out of the top of the tube, as it will if you lie it down
too quickly. If you lay it flat, it dribbles out of the reservoir end of
the tube. I always recline them, gently, until the mercury is firmly up
to the top of the bulb, then plug the open end with either a cork or
something similar, and carry them at an angle.

I would be very surprised if James Lewis didn't know this - I've been to
many of his auctions, and he's always struck me as bright and
knowledgeable. He's also an excellent auctioneer, who can push over 180
lots per hour through without appearing to hurry.

As Andy says - it's a lot less messy if you treat them all as mercury
rather than all as aneroid.


Sounds to me that this wasn't an aneroid instrument at all,
it just looked like one. (the word means "dry")
I hadn't heard of a mercury wheel barometer until you mentioned
it. Can you point me to a diagram on how it works, I cant find one.


Does this help
http://www.quicksilver-barometers.co...ation.html#wks

Graham.[_2_] November 14th 08 10:52 PM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 


wrote in message
...
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:16:02 -0000, "Graham." wrote:



"Kevin Poole" wrote in message
...


Rod wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:39:02 -0800 (PST), Andy Dingley
wrote:

On 14 Nov, 16:14, "Graham." wrote:
I just saw an "expert" on "Flog It tell a guy always to keep
his barometer upright, an never ever lie it down.
As advice aimed at an audience that watches daytime TV, then it's not
too bad. You don't want them spilling mercury, I doubt if many could
spell aneroid let alone tell what sort of barometer they had.

Is the mercury not sealed in? Is it not to prevent the mercury
splitting with the problem of getting it all back together again?

Last time I looked closely at one, it was 'sealed' by what I assume was
a
small piece of animal skin, tied. The sort of seal that keeps dust out,
not mercury in - I doubt it would have been strong enough to hold back
the weight of the mercury when still, let alone when sloshing around.


There are two problems transporting a typical mercury wheel barometer.
If
you don't tilt it at all the mercury bounces around, and will very
easily
punch the end out of the top of the tube, as it will if you lie it down
too quickly. If you lay it flat, it dribbles out of the reservoir end
of
the tube. I always recline them, gently, until the mercury is firmly up
to the top of the bulb, then plug the open end with either a cork or
something similar, and carry them at an angle.

I would be very surprised if James Lewis didn't know this - I've been to
many of his auctions, and he's always struck me as bright and
knowledgeable. He's also an excellent auctioneer, who can push over 180
lots per hour through without appearing to hurry.

As Andy says - it's a lot less messy if you treat them all as mercury
rather than all as aneroid.


Sounds to me that this wasn't an aneroid instrument at all,
it just looked like one. (the word means "dry")
I hadn't heard of a mercury wheel barometer until you mentioned
it. Can you point me to a diagram on how it works, I cant find one.


Does this help
http://www.quicksilver-barometers.co...ation.html#wks

It does, and it looks like I owe Mr Lewis an apology!

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Guy Dawson November 14th 08 11:05 PM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 
wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:39:02 -0800 (PST), Andy Dingley
wrote:

On 14 Nov, 16:14, "Graham." wrote:
I just saw an "expert" on "Flog It tell a guy always to keep
his barometer upright, an never ever lie it down.

As advice aimed at an audience that watches daytime TV, then it's not
too bad. You don't want them spilling mercury, I doubt if many could
spell aneroid let alone tell what sort of barometer they had.


Is the mercury not sealed in? Is it not to prevent the mercury
splitting with the problem of getting it all back together again?


We have a wheel barometer and there's no seal on it.

When we moved house the removals company would not move the barometer -
this was in their contract terms. I propped it up in my car and once
moved I had to reset it as the weight was no longer sitting on the
mercury.

We also have a modern aneroid barometer and an electronic one!

Guy
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[email protected] November 14th 08 11:48 PM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:17:05 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:18:02 +0000, wrote:

Is the mercury not sealed in?


Engage brain how could air pressure shove down on the reservior pushing
the column of mercury up the tube if it was sealed in...

is it not to prevent the mercury splitting with the problem of getting
it all back together again?


Are you thinking thermometer not barometer? Thermometers are sealed.


Probably so...lol

Don[_10_] November 15th 08 12:04 AM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:47:41 -0000, "Don"
wrote:


"www.GymRatZ.co.uk" wrote in
message ...
wrote:

Maybe he has had problems in his past with Aneroids .

I think we are all afflicted with them at some time in our life.
8¬O

Pete


Yep, they took mine out along with my tonsils when I was six ;-)

Don.


Strange place to have your tonsils ?


Adenoids ?



[email protected] November 15th 08 12:14 AM

Barometer. Never lie them down?
 
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:04:08 -0000, "Don"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:47:41 -0000, "Don"
wrote:


"www.GymRatZ.co.uk" wrote in
message ...
wrote:

Maybe he has had problems in his past with Aneroids .

I think we are all afflicted with them at some time in our life.
8¬O

Pete

Yep, they took mine out along with my tonsils when I was six ;-)

Don.


Strange place to have your tonsils ?


Adenoids ?

Yeah .It would be unusual for a 6 year old to have the other sort of
"oids" wouldn't it ..lol


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