Laminate and uneven floor
 

I've started laying my tile effect laminate and so far it's gone OK,
but I am now next to a rather awkward doorbar and I wondered what
other people might do.

Basically we knocked 3 rooms into one and had to screed some floors
areas to bring up the levels and flatten them. However the doorway I
now need to put flooring up to is right at the end of the screed, and
so there is a big level change on the existing door bar.

Here's a pictu
http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doorbarhs2.jpg

I can see only 3 ways to make this look OK, but I'm no floorer so
maybe there are other tricks?
1) Cut all floor ends neatly and use (coloured?) silicone to fill the
expansion gap?
2) Cut them neatly and have NO expansion gap at this door bar (rest of
room has a gap all round)
3) Put a metal door bar in - but I think this will look daft
4) Add a low profile edge strip into an expansion gap
5) Lift up the existing door bar and machine it down

The door bar is currently a piece of hardwood and is firmly anchored
under the door frame/architrave. So getting this out to say route out
a lip on the rear would be tricky.

For a low profile edge this is the sort of thing I thought of:
http://www.realoakfloors.co.uk/solid...ge_profile.php

Thanks
Painters10

Laminate and uneven floor
 

"Painters10" wrote in message
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I've started laying my tile effect laminate and so far it's gone OK,
but I am now next to a rather awkward doorbar and I wondered what
other people might do.

Basically we knocked 3 rooms into one and had to screed some floors
areas to bring up the levels and flatten them. However the doorway I
now need to put flooring up to is right at the end of the screed, and
so there is a big level change on the existing door bar.

Here's a pictu
http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doorbarhs2.jpg


Any problem laying down a screed of SLC or sand&cement? for that area or a
sheet of wood to pack it out level.

Wish I had that problem rather than one sq metre corner of living room being
higher than the rest,its just not feasible to lay another SLC down on the
floor for one sq metre so I'll have to thin of a way of digging it out?

Laminate and uneven floor
 

George wrote:
"Painters10" wrote in message
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I've started laying my tile effect laminate and so far it's gone OK,
but I am now next to a rather awkward doorbar and I wondered what
other people might do.

Basically we knocked 3 rooms into one and had to screed some floors
areas to bring up the levels and flatten them. However the doorway I
now need to put flooring up to is right at the end of the screed, and
so there is a big level change on the existing door bar.

Here's a pictu
http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doorbarhs2.jpg


Any problem laying down a screed of SLC or sand&cement? for that area or a
sheet of wood to pack it out level.

Wish I had that problem rather than one sq metre corner of living room being
higher than the rest,its just not feasible to lay another SLC down on the
floor for one sq metre so I'll have to thin of a way of digging it out?



IME drilling a series of holes to a certain depth is better than
attacking it with an sds chisel. Tedious, but then it usually chops out
neatly with a bolster and club hammer.

Laminate and uneven floor
 

"stuart noble" wrote in message
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George wrote:
"Painters10" wrote in message
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I've started laying my tile effect laminate and so far it's gone OK,
but I am now next to a rather awkward doorbar and I wondered what
other people might do.

Basically we knocked 3 rooms into one and had to screed some floors
areas to bring up the levels and flatten them. However the doorway I
now need to put flooring up to is right at the end of the screed, and
so there is a big level change on the existing door bar.

Here's a pictu
http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doorbarhs2.jpg


Any problem laying down a screed of SLC or sand&cement? for that area or
a sheet of wood to pack it out level.

Wish I had that problem rather than one sq metre corner of living room
being higher than the rest,its just not feasible to lay another SLC down
on the floor for one sq metre so I'll have to thin of a way of digging it
out?

IME drilling a series of holes to a certain depth is better than attacking
it with an sds chisel. Tedious, but then it usually chops out neatly with
a bolster and club hammer.

How good realy are those SDS drills at taking a few mm of concrete off the
floor? don't have one but willing to buy one if they work well without
breaking up the solid lower core.

Laminate and uneven floor
 

George wrote:
"stuart noble" wrote in message
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George wrote:
"Painters10" wrote in message
...
I've started laying my tile effect laminate and so far it's gone OK,
but I am now next to a rather awkward doorbar and I wondered what
other people might do.

Basically we knocked 3 rooms into one and had to screed some floors
areas to bring up the levels and flatten them. However the doorway I
now need to put flooring up to is right at the end of the screed, and
so there is a big level change on the existing door bar.

Here's a pictu
http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doorbarhs2.jpg

Any problem laying down a screed of SLC or sand&cement? for that area or
a sheet of wood to pack it out level.

Wish I had that problem rather than one sq metre corner of living room
being higher than the rest,its just not feasible to lay another SLC down
on the floor for one sq metre so I'll have to thin of a way of digging it
out?
IME drilling a series of holes to a certain depth is better than attacking
it with an sds chisel. Tedious, but then it usually chops out neatly with
a bolster and club hammer.

How good realy are those SDS drills at taking a few mm of concrete off the
floor?

Not very good IME, but it probably depends on the quality of the
concrete. Used at an angle, the chisel tends to just bounce across the
surface

don't have one but willing to buy one if they work well without
breaking up the solid lower core.

Laminate and uneven floor
 

On 30 Sep, 14:38, "George" wrote:
"stuart noble" wrote in message

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George wrote:
"Painters10" wrote in message
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I've started laying my tile effect laminate and so far it's gone OK,
but I am now next to a rather awkward doorbar and I wondered what
other people might do.

Basically we knocked 3 rooms into one and had to screed some floors
areas to bring up the levels and flatten them. However the doorway I
now need to put flooring up to is right at the end of the screed, and
so there is a big level change on the existing door bar.

Here's a pictu
http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doorbarhs2.jpg

Any problem laying down a screed of SLC or sand&cement? for that area or
a sheet of wood to pack it out level.

Wish I had that problem rather than one sq metre corner of living room
being higher than the rest,its just not feasible to lay another SLC down
on the floor for one sq metre so I'll have to thin of a way of digging it
out?

IME drilling a series of holes to a certain depth is better than attacking
it with an sds chisel. Tedious, but then it usually chops out neatly with
a bolster and club hammer.

How good realy are those SDS drills at taking a few mm of concrete off the
floor? don't have one but willing to buy one if they work well without
breaking up the solid lower core.

What you need to do is drill some holes or more effective, use a
diamond disk to cut some slots to a certain depth. Once you get an
area down to the required depth, you can use the SDS chisel "sideways"
to remove the waste, or just a bolster may do. The trick is to use the
chisel "sideways" so you do not damage the concrete lower down.
You can also use a "point" chisel or the edge of a flat blade to dig
into the concrete. Just don't go full blast directly downwards !
Simon.

Laminate and uneven floor
 

On 30 Sep, 15:36, stuart noble wrote:
George wrote:
"stuart noble" wrote in message
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George wrote:
"Painters10" wrote in message
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I've started laying my tile effect laminate and so far it's gone OK,
but I am now next to a rather awkward doorbar and I wondered what
other people might do.

Basically we knocked 3 rooms into one and had to screed some floors
areas to bring up the levels and flatten them. However the doorway I
now need to put flooring up to is right at the end of the screed, and
so there is a big level change on the existing door bar.

Here's a pictu
http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doorbarhs2.jpg

Any problem laying down a screed of SLC or sand&cement? for that area or
a sheet of wood to pack it out level.

Wish I had that problem rather than one sq metre corner of living room
being higher than the rest,its just not feasible to lay another SLC down
on the floor for one sq metre so I'll have to thin of a way of digging it
out?
IME drilling a series of holes to a certain depth is better than attacking
it with an sds chisel. Tedious, but then it usually chops out neatly with
a bolster and club hammer.

How good realy are those SDS drills at taking a few mm of concrete off the
floor?

Not very good IME, but it probably depends on the quality of the
concrete. Used at an angle, the chisel tends to just bounce across the
surface

Use a "scutch" chisel, like a comb with individual teeth. Its what
stone masons and sculpters use to chip away stone. Kind of grinds and
chisels the surface at the same time.
Simon.

Laminate and uneven floor
 

"George" wrote in message

Wish I had that problem rather than one sq metre corner of living room
being higher than the rest,its just not feasible to lay another SLC down
on the floor for one sq metre so I'll have to thin of a way of digging it
out?


Anyone see a problem with this method?

Just took up a couple of rows of laminate 2ft away from rising floor
area,put down a good bit of cardboard and then layed the underlay down then
the laminate planks again.

Its just the right height when it came to the rise area and they went down
flat over it so I'm happy with this but don't know whether it'll cause any
problems?

Laminate and uneven floor
 

Anyone see a problem with this method?
Just took up a couple of rows of laminate 2ft away from rising floor
area,put down a good bit of cardboard and then layed the underlay down then
the laminate planks again.
Its just the right height when it came to the rise area and they went down
flat over it so I'm happy with this but don't know whether it'll cause any
problems?

I've sort of come to a similar conclusion. I found the hardwood
doorbar not to be straight, and I managed to remove it, and use my
router on the back to machine a "lip" to go over the top of the
flooring. I then put the doorbar back with packing under one side to
level it.
Under the flooring I do need to raise the level one side though - I
have put down some 3mm hardboard sheet so far, but only on the run up
to the door. This makes the floor near level as it slides under the
doorbar lip.

This looks good, but I am worried that this will cause a reliability
issue with the floor joints, due to the mismatch in height between
planks.
I wonder if twinwall carboard would be better under the flooring, as
it would "give" more.

I have 3mm foam damp-proof underlay over the hardboard, so you can't
feel the hardboard when you walk on it.

Painters10