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Anyone have any specific knowledge/experience of ultrasonic measures?
I'm looking for a simple accurate way of measuring things like door frames, alcoves, cupboard interiors etc rather than complete rooms. Most seem to have a minimum range of 60cm which is fine, maximum range whatever. Like one with a laser pointer to make life easier. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
Ultrasonic measures mit laser dot
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Anyone have any specific knowledge/experience of ultrasonic measures? I'm looking for a simple accurate way of measuring things like door frames, alcoves, cupboard interiors etc rather than complete rooms. Most seem to have a minimum range of 60cm which is fine, maximum range whatever. Like one with a laser pointer to make life easier. Just searched the B&Q (bloody useless) site for 'ultrasonic measure'. Only two results, B&Q own brand & Ryobi. I know they do B&D + Stanley, I've seen them in there. Specification for the Ryobi 'Stud Sensor & Ultrasonic Measure' icluded the phrase "2 year warranty. Must be connected by qualified electrician". Is inserting a 9v battery really covered by Part P? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
Ultrasonic measures mit laser dot
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Anyone have any specific knowledge/experience of ultrasonic measures? Good for approximate measurements IME, not usually that accurate. I'm looking for a simple accurate way of measuring things like door frames, alcoves, cupboard interiors etc rather than complete rooms. Most seem to have a minimum range of 60cm which is fine, maximum range whatever. Like one with a laser pointer to make life easier. The best ones are the Leica laser measures. But be prepared to spend £200 ish for one of those. Just searched the B&Q (bloody useless) site for 'ultrasonic measure'. Only two results, B&Q own brand & Ryobi. I know they do B&D + Stanley, I've seen them in there. Specification for the Ryobi 'Stud Sensor & Ultrasonic Measure' icluded the phrase "2 year warranty. Must be connected by qualified electrician". Is inserting a 9v battery really covered by Part P? Depends on where in the electrician you insert it ;-) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
Ultrasonic measures mit laser dot
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:28:41 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Anyone have any specific knowledge/experience of ultrasonic measures? I'm looking for a simple accurate way of measuring things like door frames, alcoves, cupboard interiors etc rather than complete rooms. Err ain't that what a tape measure's for? Most seem to have a minimum range of 60cm which is fine, maximum range whatever. Like one with a laser pointer to make life easier. I was 'presented' with one quite a few years (maybe 15 years or so) ago as an aid to measuring the height of overhead lines. I wasn't overly impressed, but the technology might have improved over the years. It was something of a toy; it's lying around somewhere in one of the gsrage cupboards now. -- Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes the dot wanderer at tesco dot net |
Ultrasonic measures mit laser dot
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:28:41 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote: Anyone have any specific knowledge/experience of ultrasonic measures? I'm looking for a simple accurate way of measuring things like door frames, alcoves, cupboard interiors etc rather than complete rooms. Err ain't that what a tape measure's for? Well, yes. In t'olden days tapes used to have 'add xxx' on the base so you could accurately measure inside dimensions, but none of my tapes seem to have that now. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
Ultrasonic measures mit laser dot
John Rumm wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote: Anyone have any specific knowledge/experience of ultrasonic measures? Good for approximate measurements IME, not usually that accurate. Hmmm. I'm looking for a simple accurate way of measuring things like door frames, alcoves, cupboard interiors etc rather than complete rooms. Most seem to have a minimum range of 60cm which is fine, maximum range whatever. Like one with a laser pointer to make life easier. The best ones are the Leica laser measures. But be prepared to spend £200 ish for one of those. Gulp! Methinks a digital tape with an 'include case' function might be better. Just searched the B&Q (bloody useless) site for 'ultrasonic measure'. Only two results, B&Q own brand & Ryobi. I know they do B&D + Stanley, I've seen them in there. Specification for the Ryobi 'Stud Sensor & Ultrasonic Measure' icluded the phrase "2 year warranty. Must be connected by qualified electrician". Is inserting a 9v battery really covered by Part P? Depends on where in the electrician you insert it ;-) Lets not go there... -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
Ultrasonic measures mit laser dot
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:00:53 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Well, yes. In t'olden days tapes used to have 'add xxx' on the base so you could accurately measure inside dimensions, but none of my tapes seem to have that now. All mine have including the £1 5m metric only from Tesco, except that has the "add xxx" in imperial! As for ultrasonic measures, they aren't that good unless your tolerance is +/- 1 foot in every ten. Good enough for estate agents but I wouldn't trust one for short distances or for any accuracy. You really don't know what it is getting reflections off, even with a laser spot. Doing the width of an alcove cupboard, is it "seeing" the open cupboard door or the wall reccessed 6" further back or some combination? As Mr Rumm has said you if you want decent accuracy you need to go to laser only, at least then you can be sure what you are measuring from the spot location. They don't come cheap and I'm not sure what the minimum range is either. The B&Q wbiste doesn't have half the things you'll find in store. It's mostly "home wares" rather than DIY stuff, I guess so they don't compete with the sister company Screwfix. -- Cheers Dave. |
Ultrasonic measures mit laser dot
On 17 Sep, 06:59, The Wanderer wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:28:41 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote: Anyone have any specific knowledge/experience of ultrasonic measures? I'm looking for a simple accurate way of measuring things like door frames, alcoves, cupboard interiors etc rather than complete rooms. Err ain't that what a tape measure's for? Most seem to have a minimum range of 60cm which is fine, maximum range whatever. *Like one with a laser pointer to make life easier. I was 'presented' with one quite a few years (maybe 15 years or so) ago as an aid to measuring the height of overhead lines. I wasn't overly impressed, but the technology might have improved over the years. It was something of a toy; it's lying around somewhere in one of the gsrage cupboards now. Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes = "If you can read this, you are over educated". Not sure quite what this has to do with DIY. Now if your tag was "Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere", that would make sense! Rob |
Ultrasonic measures mit laser dot
I recently bought the Bosch DLE50 - so good, I wish I bought one ages
ago. http://www.screwfix.com/search.do;js...+laser&x=0&y=0 In practice, measures down to about 250mm - which is the only shortcoming I can find. Has a simple press button to change the measurement reference point from the back edge of the box (the default, and what you'd naturally do for any internal measurement), to the front edge, to a little pop out spike(for getting into corners), to a tripod point (can't see me using that one). Checked accuracy with tapes at all sorts of distances, better than their spec. Didn't think I'd use the area and volume measures, or cumulative memory - but they've made them very easy to use, so I do. It was on offer at my builders merchants (Ridgeons) so paid less than the Screwfix price and got a quite reasonable free watch (which will be somebody's crimbo present). Where it comes into it's own is the places hard to measure accurately with a tape on your own - and you want to measure several spots to pick out the narrowest point etc. I did wonder if I was "over-buying" something that would get limited use, but I'm finding it gets used a lot - above all because it's supremely easy to use - and quick. |
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"The Medway Handyman" writes: Anyone have any specific knowledge/experience of ultrasonic measures? I'm looking for a simple accurate way of measuring things like door frames, alcoves, cupboard interiors etc rather than complete rooms. Most seem to have a minimum range of 60cm which is fine, maximum range whatever. Like one with a laser pointer to make life easier. I walked past ALDI yesterday on the way back from the dentist, and noticed they had some. I didn't note any of the details or price, sorry. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
Ultrasonic measures mit laser dot
"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message ... I walked past ALDI yesterday on the way back from the dentist, and noticed they had some. I didn't note any of the details or price, sorry. Shh, you will have Andy rolling in his grave. They didn't look to be very good to me, IIRC they were £15. Ultrasonic measures are survey tools not building tools IMO. I suppose a garden deck is OK if one side is 5% longer than the other. |
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On 16 Sep, 23:28, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: Anyone have any specific knowledge/experience of ultrasonic measures? I'm looking for a simple accurate way of measuring things like door frames, alcoves, cupboard interiors etc rather than complete rooms. Most seem to have a minimum range of 60cm which is fine, maximum range whatever. *Like one with a laser pointer to make life easier. -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk Simpler, and more accurate: http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-B...ape-377259.htm |
Ultrasonic measures mit laser dot
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:00:53 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote:
The Wanderer wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:28:41 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote: Anyone have any specific knowledge/experience of ultrasonic measures? I'm looking for a simple accurate way of measuring things like door frames, alcoves, cupboard interiors etc rather than complete rooms. Err ain't that what a tape measure's for? Well, yes. In t'olden days tapes used to have 'add xxx' on the base so you could accurately measure inside dimensions, but none of my tapes seem to have that now. Reckon you'm buying from the wrong sources! Even the el cheapo that Father Christmas brought me last year when we were out for lunch on the 25th (DSL promeasure) has the width of case marked - +3 7/8"/99mm. It even has a built in light to help read the scale in dark corners! -- Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes the dot wanderer at tesco dot net |
Ultrasonic measures mit laser dot
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:28:41 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote: Anyone have any specific knowledge/experience of ultrasonic measures? I'm looking for a simple accurate way of measuring things like door frames, alcoves, cupboard interiors etc rather than complete rooms. Err ain't that what a tape measure's for? A tape measure often needs someone to hold the 'silly' end, or you struggle on your own. With a laser or ultrasonic measure, you can do it single handed. That's why they are so popular with surveyors, carpet fitting estimators and ... handymen. |
Ultrasonic measures mit laser dot
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:40:43 +0100, Bruce wrote:
The Wanderer wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:28:41 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote: Anyone have any specific knowledge/experience of ultrasonic measures? I'm looking for a simple accurate way of measuring things like door frames, alcoves, cupboard interiors etc rather than complete rooms. Err ain't that what a tape measure's for? A tape measure often needs someone to hold the 'silly' end, or you struggle on your own. With a laser or ultrasonic measure, you can do it single handed. That's why they are so popular with surveyors, carpet fitting estimators and ... handymen. ' I'm looking for a simple accurate way of measuring things like door frames, alcoves, cupboard interiors etc rather than complete rooms.' A 1" tape will quite happily support itself over short distances. As others have commented, and based on my own experience, there can be quite a wide margin of error with ultrasomnic devices, unless, I guess, you're using a high spec model. -- Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes the dot wanderer at tesco dot net |
Ultrasonic measures mit laser dot
dennis@home wrote:
"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message ... I walked past ALDI yesterday on the way back from the dentist, and noticed they had some. I didn't note any of the details or price, sorry. Shh, you will have Andy rolling in his grave. They didn't look to be very good to me, IIRC they were £15. Ultrasonic measures are survey tools not building tools IMO. I suppose a garden deck is OK if one side is 5% longer than the other. Not if I build it! That could work out at 8" on a 15' deck. I'd accept maybe 1/4" over 15'. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
Ultrasonic measures mit laser dot
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Anyone have any specific knowledge/experience of ultrasonic measures? I'm looking for a simple accurate way of measuring things like door frames, alcoves, cupboard interiors etc rather than complete rooms. Most seem to have a minimum range of 60cm which is fine, maximum range whatever. Like one with a laser pointer to make life easier. I have tried two or three and all have been reasonably accurate, given the low resolution of the displays. They are fine for rough measurements, but really not intended to replace a tape measure. They can suffer errors if the surface they are aimed at isn't flat or if it has things protruding from the surface. -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk |
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The Wanderer wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:28:41 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote: Anyone have any specific knowledge/experience of ultrasonic measures? I'm looking for a simple accurate way of measuring things like door frames, alcoves, cupboard interiors etc rather than complete rooms. Err ain't that what a tape measure's for? Well, yes. In t'olden days tapes used to have 'add xxx' on the base so you could accurately measure inside dimensions, but none of my tapes seem to have that now. Dave, Well simply measure the case at the bottom (just in case your not sure of the bottom - it's where the tape 'thingy' sticks out) and then add that on to your measurement! Ah! And don't forget to take into account the thickness of the bent 'thingy' on the end of the tape - you know, that 'hooky' thing that usually slides to account for thickness differences on inside and outside dimensions --that is of course if you want to be accurate in youre measuring! Simple really - providing you can do the complicated maths. ;-) Tanner-'op |
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Anyone have any specific knowledge/experience of ultrasonic measures? I'm looking for a simple accurate way of measuring things like door frames, alcoves, cupboard interiors etc rather than complete rooms. Most seem to have a minimum range of 60cm which is fine, maximum range whatever. Like one with a laser pointer to make life easier. Thanks for all the comments chaps. Popped into Axminster today & spotted a Skil 0525 digital tape http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-S...ure-480341.htm Had a play with it & it works a treat, just what I needed & accurate to +/- 1mm. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:48:00 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Thanks for all the comments chaps. Popped into Axminster today & spotted a Skil 0525 digital tape http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-S...ure-480341.htm Had a play with it & it works a treat, just what I needed & accurate to +/- 1mm. Oh, far greater accuracy than you'll need then! :-)) -- Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes the dot wanderer at tesco dot net |
Ultrasonic measures mit laser dot
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Anyone have any specific knowledge/experience of ultrasonic measures? I'm looking for a simple accurate way of measuring things like door frames, alcoves, cupboard interiors etc rather than complete rooms. Most seem to have a minimum range of 60cm which is fine, maximum range whatever. Like one with a laser pointer to make life easier. Take 2 strips of 50mm doorstop timber, less thah the alcoves you want to measure. drill a hole for a bolt some way from the end of one. cut a slot along the length of the other to take the bolt. use a bolt with a wing nut and assemble. put into alcve and slide so that the ends are touching the sides of the alcove. Tighten the wing nut. You now have an accurate measure of the width of the cacove which you can transfer to the timber you need to cut Malcolm |
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