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I am intending to remove an old storage heater from my flat. I do not
know the brand, but it is around 20 years old. I have other storage
heaters in my flat, of a slightly different style, which are all
Dimplex heaters. Below is a link to a picture of the heater.

Does anyone know what type of heater this is and the best way to
uninstall it?

Thanks.

http://www1.snapfish.co.uk/thumbnail...60/t_=25792860
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I am intending to remove an old storage heater from my flat. I do not
know the brand, but it is around 20 years old. I have other storage
heaters in my flat, of a slightly different style, which are all
Dimplex heaters. Below is a link to a picture of the heater.

Does anyone know what type of heater this is and the best way to
uninstall it?

Thanks.

http://www1.snapfish.co.uk/thumbnail...60/t_=25792860


Any ones I have seen are connected to a fused unit on the same wall
nearby . Switch the electricity off....disconnect the cable at the
aforementioned connector ...unles it has been connected by a plug in
which case no need to turn the elecy off..just unplug it ..Turn elec
back on . You then need to remove the heater from the wall....Not sure
how they are held on the wall ..probably they just hang on brackets
bolted to the wall in which case it needs to be lifted off them,or
maybe it also sits on the floor as well as being affixed to the wall
but these beasts are very heavy because they have bricks in them so
best to remove the cover and remove the bricks then take the heater
off the wall ...I did read a suggestion that they had asbestos in them
but dunno about that .
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I am intending to remove an old storage heater from my flat. I do not
know the brand, but it is around 20 years old. I have other storage
heaters in my flat, of a slightly different style, which are all
Dimplex heaters. Below is a link to a picture of the heater.

Does anyone know what type of heater this is and the best way to
uninstall it?

Thanks.


Are you seriously saying you have no ide how to unscrew the case, empty it
and remove it from a wall?
I know some people can be thick, but this is a classic.
Would you ever survive without turning to a newsgroup for trivial matters!
You can ask that in a
newsgroup if you like, assuming you know how to use the computer without a
further post!




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I am intending to remove an old storage heater from my flat. I do not
know the brand, but it is around 20 years old. I have other storage
heaters in my flat, of a slightly different style, which are all
Dimplex heaters. Below is a link to a picture of the heater.

Does anyone know what type of heater this is and the best way to
uninstall it?

Thanks.

http://www1.snapfish.co.uk/thumbnail...60/t_=25792860


Any ones I have seen are connected to a fused unit on the same wall
nearby . Switch the electricity off....disconnect the cable at the
aforementioned connector ...unles it has been connected by a plug in
which case no need to turn the elecy off..just unplug it ..Turn elec
back on . You then need to remove the heater from the wall....Not sure
how they are held on the wall ..probably they just hang on brackets
bolted to the wall in which case it needs to be lifted off them,or
maybe it also sits on the floor as well as being affixed to the wall
but these beasts are very heavy because they have bricks in them so
best to remove the cover and remove the bricks then take the heater
off the wall ...I did read a suggestion that they had asbestos in them
but dunno about that .


Exactly WHERE did you read that this type of storage heater contained
abestos? Or did you just make that up? Thought so!
There are usually two brackets underneath acting as stands. Two brackets
hold the heater on the wall. If the person can't use a spanner or
screwdriver,
or do anything for himself then there is just no hope.


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I am intending to remove an old storage heater from my flat. I do not
know the brand, but it is around 20 years old. I have other storage
heaters in my flat, of a slightly different style, which are all
Dimplex heaters. Below is a link to a picture of the heater.

Does anyone know what type of heater this is and the best way to
uninstall it?

Thanks.


Are you seriously saying you have no ide how to unscrew the case, empty it
and remove it from a wall?
I know some people can be thick, but this is a classic.


In fairness to the poster there are a couple of issues she/ he may be
concerned about. The first is asbestos. Older storage heaters had this in
as insulators and fire retardants I gather. I know Creda has a list of
those model numbers which contained asbestos.

I dont know the make of this particular heater given in the picture but if
it is only 20 years old it is unlikely to have asbestos in it. That I can
say with some safety. Mine on the other hand have to be checked because they
are 1970's. As it happens mine are free of asbestos too.

The second point is taking them apart. Its not as easy as it looks with some
models.

I have investigated mine ( because I have a new one coming) . First I switch
the main off because I dont think all of them are that safe and I wouldnt
rely on the after 8 am principle to keep me safe. I have then undone the
plug and disconnected all wires from that.

I have now taken the front off and that leaves an inner cover which in my
case has a model and makers number on it . The OP may find theirs does too!
Finding the crews for this panel can be difficult. Mine were hidden at the
back and under the bottom. Remove that and you will find bricks/ insulating
material and an element running through the each brick layer. They come
apart with a bit of force. Dismantled and in pieces to dispose of.



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I am intending to remove an old storage heater from my flat. I do not
know the brand, but it is around 20 years old. I have other storage
heaters in my flat, of a slightly different style, which are all
Dimplex heaters. Below is a link to a picture of the heater.

Does anyone know what type of heater this is and the best way to
uninstall it?

Thanks.
...I did read a suggestion that they had asbestos in them

but dunno about that .


Exactly WHERE did you read that this type of storage heater contained
abestos? Or did you just make that up? Thought so!
There are usually two brackets underneath acting as stands. Two brackets
hold the heater on the wall. If the person can't use a spanner or
screwdriver,
or do anything for himself then there is just no hope.


I have been told the older heaters have asbestos in them. Creda have a page
which lists the older models that were made this way. If its a 1980 model
its not likely to have asbestos in it. Mine are 1975 and dont have any but
apparently some 1960's/ 70's models did have.
They were mostly the bigger ones - about a foot wide. The " slimline" ones
are a later generation.

Yes, the do hang on brackets as well as fet ( I have both on mine The
bracket is a couple of steel strips notled on the wall and the heater slots
into them. I took my heater to pieces before getting it off the wall.


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I am intending to remove an old storage heater from my flat. *I do not
know the brand, but it is around 20 years old. *I have other storage
heaters in my flat, of a slightly different style, which are all
Dimplex heaters. *Below is a link to a picture of the heater.


Does anyone know what type of heater this is and the best way to
uninstall it?


Thanks.


Are you seriously saying you have no ide how to unscrew the case, empty it
and remove it from a wall?
I know some people can be thick, but this is a classic.
Would you ever survive without turning to a newsgroup for trivial matters!
You can ask that in a
newsgroup if you like, assuming you know how to use the computer without a
further post!


What a helpful reply! As I said in my original post, I'm fine with the
other storage heaters I have, and I have found them very easy to
remove / disconnect. It's just this different type one that is much
more confusing...maybe you should come here and attempt it before
making such comments....

Thanks to the other posters. Endymion - as you said a lot of screws
are hidden behind and underneath (I had already spotted that,
h.tees!), but I wanted to ensure there's nothing else important I'd
missed.
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I am intending to remove an old storage heater from my flat. I do not
know the brand, but it is around 20 years old. I have other storage
heaters in my flat, of a slightly different style, which are all
Dimplex heaters. Below is a link to a picture of the heater.

Does anyone know what type of heater this is and the best way to
uninstall it?

Thanks.

http://www1.snapfish.co.uk/thumbnail...60/t_=25792860


Any ones I have seen are connected to a fused unit on the same wall
nearby . Switch the electricity off....disconnect the cable at the
aforementioned connector ...unles it has been connected by a plug in
which case no need to turn the elecy off..just unplug it ..Turn elec
back on . You then need to remove the heater from the wall....Not sure
how they are held on the wall ..probably they just hang on brackets
bolted to the wall in which case it needs to be lifted off them,or
maybe it also sits on the floor as well as being affixed to the wall
but these beasts are very heavy because they have bricks in them so
best to remove the cover and remove the bricks then take the heater
off the wall ...I did read a suggestion that they had asbestos in them
but dunno about that .



Exactly WHERE did you read that this type of storage heater contained
abestos? Or did you just make that up? Thought so!
There are usually two brackets underneath acting as stands. Two brackets
hold the heater on the wall. If the person can't use a spanner or
screwdriver,
or do anything for himself then there is just no hope.


It does not matter, if you get an inkling that there may be asbestos in
the system, you just do not touch and then get the experts in. Why
shorten your life by 30 years, due to ignorance?
Local real ale pub has just had a new boiler fitted and the installers
refuse to remove the old one for the same reason.

Dave
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On 22 Aug, 20:20, "h.tees" wrote:
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I think what would be a VERY useful follow up is if someone knows how
to find out which do and which do not contain asbestos. Is it a case
of finding out model by model? That could be v. tricky as many
manufacturers have probably gone bust or merger or whatever.


I agree, this is a difficult one. It seems to me the first time you might
become aware there is asbestos in older heaters is when you start to
dismantle them. I was given a link to the creda site by someone on another
newsgroup ( a teachers newsgroup of all places!). But that site only deals
with creda numbers and of course you have to have the number. Again , on my
heater that was hidden under the main cover and I was already taking it
apart when I found it.

As you say though, many of the firms are bust/ merged etc and I couldnt
find very much info about old heaters at all.


There is an interesting question here regarding responsibility of
health and safety issues too...


That raises questions. My biggest fear was finding asbestos and then having
to find someone to remove the damned heater safely. If they were not so
heavy I wouldnt even have dismanteled it. I would have taken it to the tip
wholesale.


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You come across as a seriously bitter pathetic person. Learn to help people or
stay away from people if you cant. Id prefer to deal with someone who asked
rather than a blinkered muppet who knew it all - hopefully this post may have
warned you about asbestos which you clearly didnt have a clue about - but you
were so arrogant you could actually have endangered peoples lives. Nice man

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Id prefer to deal with someone who asked
rather than a blinkered muppet who knew it all


Feel free to ask how to tell a recent post from an 8 year old one ...

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Home_owners_hub
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I can read the date - its apparent by your response people do read old stuff -
I replied just in the hope the person who I was aiming the comment at is still
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On Friday, 22 August 2008 20:20:56 UTC+1, h.tees ...

You made the effort to join this forum just to be an arse?
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On Friday, 23 September 2016 12:57:29 UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:
Andypk wrote:

Id prefer to deal with someone who asked
rather than a blinkered muppet who knew it all


Feel free to ask how to tell a recent post from an 8 year old one ...

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Home_owners_hub


WTF are these thing coming from? Someone looking up old stuff for why?


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On 23/09/2016 17:29, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Friday, 23 September 2016 12:57:29 UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:
Andypk wrote:

Id prefer to deal with someone who asked
rather than a blinkered muppet who knew it all


Feel free to ask how to tell a recent post from an 8 year old one ...

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Home_owners_hub


WTF are these thing coming from? Someone looking up old stuff for why?


Read the link above...

Its a web site that scrapes content from usenet and gives a wrapper to
post to it, so that it gets lots of juicy content to sell advertising
against.

Problem is it promotes and highlights ancient threads that fell off
everyone else's news servers years ago, and people can't seem to resist
leaping into years old conversations! The moment they do that it then
propagates a broken thread back into usenet, where you can't see any of
the original messages, and the posters don't seem to comprehend the need
to quote some of the original content so that we know what they are
talking about.

Its a bit like AOL and eternal September all over again!

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On 23/09/2016 18:25, John Rumm wrote:


Its a bit like AOL and eternal September all over again!


Ah, AOL = Arseholes on Line

Yes, the posts originating from home hub are starting to get very
annoying. Strange replies to posting a decade or more old. No quoting
of the question so the answer makes no sense. No comprehension by home
hub users that they are posting to somewhere else as well as that web
site and the majority of readers don't actually see what they do. In
most cases the posting to which they are replying to wasn't even posted
on that web site.

Usenet postings/questions are answered in minutes to weeks and then die
and disappear. Ten year old posts will have rotted away so why is home
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On 23/09/2016 16:44, Andypk wrote:
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I can read the date - its apparent by your response people do read old
stuff -


Home hub policy is to find a decades old article originally posted to a
Usenet newsgroup to which home hub users reply. Then home hub distribute
these answers back to the Usenet with an attached link advertising their
web site. Users of, say, the uk.d-i-y newsgroup are not reading these 10
year old articles. They are only seeing isolated answers that never have
any reference to the question being asked or any other contextual
information. Home hub tell us the age of the original post.

The replies you are seeing to your post are not coming from people using
home hub. They are coming from users of Usenet newsgroups which home hub
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Its a bit like AOL and eternal September all over again!


Ah, AOL = Arseholes on Line

Yes, the posts originating from home hub are starting to get very
annoying. Strange replies to posting a decade or more old. No quoting
of the question so the answer makes no sense. No comprehension by home
hub users that they are posting to somewhere else as well as that web
site and the majority of readers don't actually see what they do. In
most cases the posting to which they are replying to wasn't even posted
on that web site.

Usenet postings/questions are answered in minutes to weeks and then die
and disappear. Ten year old posts will have rotted away so why is home
hub resurrecting them at random intervals!


To generate traffic through their site and to get more subscribers looking
at more ads. The site isn't intended to be useful, it's just meant to LOOK
useful.

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There has to be a reason why people do not see the date. As has been said
before the web portal for this group maybe has this info missing if viewed
on a small screen in the same way that we blind would only know the date if
we searched for it to keep the speech short and less hassle.
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There has to be a reason why people do not see the date. As has been said
before the web portal for this group maybe has this info missing if viewed
on a small screen in the same way that we blind would only know the date if
we searched for it to keep the speech short and less hassle.


They have the date clearly displayed on the current posts, but then they
highlight a bunch of seemingly random "highly rated" posts from the past
with no immediate indication of date until you click on one to look closer.


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There has to be a reason why people do not see the date.


More likely all we see is those who are too stupid to notice the date.

As has been said before the web portal for this group maybe
has this info missing if viewed on a small screen in the same
way that we blind would only know the date if we searched
for it to keep the speech short and less hassle.


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https://www.aic.org.uk/storage-heaters-asbestos/
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https://www.aic.org.uk/storage-heaters-asbestos/
This may help you find the model/s your looking for with asbestos in them


I expect he has managed. His request was posted in 2008 !!!!.

Why don't you read the date of the original post before replying ?.
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Yes I wondered that as the home owners mash up does have it, however I
think the problem on that site is that the system presenting messages mixes
up the years and sequences with dates instead.

It should have been sorted years ago.

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https://www.aic.org.uk/storage-heaters-asbestos/
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I expect he has managed. His request was posted in 2008 !!!!.

Why don't you read the date of the original post before replying ?.





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On 20/03/2019 12:44, Sgink wrote:
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You are so rude you wouldn't talk to someone face to face like that so
why do
it online. Ignorance is having no manners, not just not knowing how to do
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Ignorance is replying to something that was posted 11 years ago!

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