I have been finding that whenever my news reader (Thunderbird) checks
uk.d-i-y it 'sees' new messages. This is indicated by the unread message
count changing - and immediately changing back.

When I look at the message list, I see several threads indicating unread
messages. But when I expand the thread - there are none and the
indicator clears.

If this happened once, I would hardly notice it. If it happened a couple
of times, I would choose to ignore it. But it has happened dozens of
times - in fact, every time I look. Seems resolutely stuck on 'Top of
tiles', 'Specialist wood glue', 'saw this and thought...Heavyweight
physics prof weighs into climate/energy scrap' and 'ducting airbrick
through solid floor'. And no others.

I have also seen many duplicate messages - which have also (mostly)
resolved into single messages on next refresh.

Just wondering if anyone else is seeing this? Is it a problem with the
Berlin news server? Or my newsreader/computer/isp?

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On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:20:02 +0100, Rod wrote:

Just wondering if anyone else is seeing this? Is it a problem with the
Berlin news server? Or my newsreader/computer/isp?

No problem with nin here.

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Cheers
Dave.

Owain wrote:
Rod wrote:
I have been finding that whenever my news reader (Thunderbird) checks
uk.d-i-y it 'sees' new messages. This is indicated by the unread
message count changing - and immediately changing back.
Just wondering if anyone else is seeing this? Is it a problem with the
Berlin news server? Or my newsreader/computer/isp?

I occasionally have similar; I think it's a problem whereby Tbird gets
'out of synch' with the news server.

You can try compacting the folders, in extremis unsubscribe and
resubscribe to the newsgroup. Dpeending on the server's retention this
can mean several xx thousand headers to download again though.

Tried everything including unsubscribe/resubscribe - no change! That is
why I asked - hoping it wasn't just my computer. Thanks.

--
Rod

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onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
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On 23/06/2008 19:20, Rod wrote:

When I look at the message list, I see several threads indicating unread
messages. But when I expand the thread - there are none and the
indicator clears.

Have you killed any threads with the "K" key? it doesn't initially
disregard new messages to such threads, until you click on the group,
then they disappear.

Andy Burns wrote:
On 23/06/2008 19:20, Rod wrote:

When I look at the message list, I see several threads indicating
unread messages. But when I expand the thread - there are none and the
indicator clears.

Have you killed any threads with the "K" key? it doesn't initially
disregard new messages to such threads, until you click on the group,
then they disappear.

Am familar with that. I have - but not in the past few days. (At least
one reboot of the PC ago.) This has only been happening today. Thanks.

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org

Rod wrote:
I have been finding that whenever my news reader (Thunderbird) checks
uk.d-i-y it 'sees' new messages. This is indicated by the unread message
count changing - and immediately changing back.

snip

I see this (with T'bird) and have always assumed it is my troll filters
throwing things away without me seeing them.

Andy

Andy Champ wrote:
Rod wrote:
I have been finding that whenever my news reader (Thunderbird) checks
uk.d-i-y it 'sees' new messages. This is indicated by the unread
message count changing - and immediately changing back.

snip

I see this (with T'bird) and have always assumed it is my troll filters
throwing things away without me seeing them.

Exactly what I have thought - but I really don't have many filters and
none have been triggered this month.

A few minutes ago I "saw" 43 unread - which almost immediately changed
to 1. Clicked on another group and back, flicked to 43 then 1 again.
Read the 1 message. Now shows no unread messages.

But I *still* see individual threads apparently with unread messages.
Expand the thread - none unread. :-(

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org

Rod wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
On 23/06/2008 19:20, Rod wrote:

When I look at the message list, I see several threads indicating
unread messages. But when I expand the thread - there are none and
the indicator clears.

Have you killed any threads with the "K" key? it doesn't initially
disregard new messages to such threads, until you click on the group,
then they disappear.

Am familar with that. I have - but not in the past few days. (At least
one reboot of the PC ago.) This has only been happening today. Thanks.

Sounds like your ISPs newsfeed has switched to a new set of sequence
numbers. Can be at its most irritating when they have several machines
answering to the same name (via DNS rotation) and one is different from
the others.

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John.

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John Rumm wrote:
Rod wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
On 23/06/2008 19:20, Rod wrote:

When I look at the message list, I see several threads indicating
unread messages. But when I expand the thread - there are none and
the indicator clears.

Have you killed any threads with the "K" key? it doesn't initially
disregard new messages to such threads, until you click on the group,
then they disappear.

Am familar with that. I have - but not in the past few days. (At least
one reboot of the PC ago.) This has only been happening today. Thanks.

Sounds like your ISPs newsfeed has switched to a new set of sequence
numbers. Can be at its most irritating when they have several machines
answering to the same name (via DNS rotation) and one is different from
the others.

When that sort of thing has happened before, things have sorted
themselves out. Odd that it is one NG, unsubscribe/resubscribe doesn't
help, the errant threads show unread - expand and there are none -
collapse and the unread indication re-appears.

As I am using Berlin/nin, I thought someone else would see the same
problem if it were them?

Still happening on the threads I identified earlier - but not spreading.
I shall just have to ignore it unless it gets worse.

Thank you all.
--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org

Owain wrote:
Rod wrote:
Sounds like your ISPs newsfeed has switched to a new set of sequence
numbers. Can be at its most irritating when they have several
machines answering to the same name (via DNS rotation) and one is
different from the others.
When that sort of thing has happened before, things have sorted
themselves out. Odd that it is one NG,

Dunno which other groups you read, but for me ukdiy is by far and away
the busiest, so I think any problems are rather more visible than the
occasional few missed/duplicate messages on uk.sex.buggery.hedgehogs


Possibly - haven't seen you posting there. Are you a regular?

Still happening. Oh well...

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org