Standard fireplace width?
 

Hi all,
We're in a 10 yrs old detached brick house with a coal-fire in the lounge.
The fireplace has a brick chimney, and a capped gas feed about 6" to the
left of the hearth. The current fire itself is "standard" size - around 2
feet across.

My wife and I would like to fit a trendy new wide (panoramic) gas fireplace
from B & Q (£598 down from £1000). This fireplace however has an aperture
of around 3-3.5 feet, here it is:
http://www.diy.com/bq/product/produc...?PRODID=194959

I know I've got to remove my current fireplace, but can I expect there to be
a lintel above the current opening?

And will the lintel be wider than the current opening?

And if I'm going to open up the space beneath the lintel, how much
supporting brick has to be left under either end of the lintel for it to
stay safe?


I'd be really grateful if anybody can help me forward with this problem.

Cheers,
Ian

Standard fireplace width?
 

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:44:36 +0100, "ian mayo"
wrote:

Hi all,
We're in a 10 yrs old detached brick house with a coal-fire in the lounge.
The fireplace has a brick chimney, and a capped gas feed about 6" to the
left of the hearth. The current fire itself is "standard" size - around 2
feet across.

My wife and I would like to fit a trendy new wide (panoramic) gas fireplace
from B & Q (£598 down from £1000). This fireplace however has an aperture
of around 3-3.5 feet, here it is:
http://www.diy.com/bq/product/produc...?PRODID=194959

I know I've got to remove my current fireplace, but can I expect there to be
a lintel above the current opening?

And will the lintel be wider than the current opening?

And if I'm going to open up the space beneath the lintel, how much
supporting brick has to be left under either end of the lintel for it to
stay safe?


I'd be really grateful if anybody can help me forward with this problem.

Cheers,
Ian

I doubt the opening in your fireplace is going to be that wide?

How wide is the "chimney breast" from side to side?

I rebuilt mine after removing an old back boiler/solid fuel fire and
the opening is no where near that width.
I would have thought it would involve some engineering to have the
opening that wide and not make the chimney stack unsafe/unstable.

Mark S.

Standard fireplace width?
 

Cheers for that Mark,

(I've top-posted in order to keep my original message - it didn't appear in
my newsreader so it's difficult to follow the thread.)

Hey, now that's caused a panic! Engineering? Stack unsafe?

Well, I've just measured it and the chimney breast is 135 cm (4 1/2 ft)
across (external dimensions). Allowing for a couple of rows of bricks on
either side the internal dimensions (re-calculated after trying to measure
off the web image) of 90 cm across may just be ok.

This just leaves me wondering about the lintel. Is is likely that the
lintel reaches the whole way across the fireplace, or just a portion of it?

Cheers,

Ian.


"Mark S." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:44:36 +0100, "ian mayo"
wrote:

Hi all,
We're in a 10 yrs old detached brick house with a coal-fire in the
lounge.
The fireplace has a brick chimney, and a capped gas feed about 6" to the
left of the hearth. The current fire itself is "standard" size - around
2
feet across.

My wife and I would like to fit a trendy new wide (panoramic) gas
fireplace
from B & Q (£598 down from £1000). This fireplace however has an
aperture
of around 3-3.5 feet, here it is:
http://www.diy.com/bq/product/produc...?PRODID=194959

I know I've got to remove my current fireplace, but can I expect there to
be
a lintel above the current opening?

And will the lintel be wider than the current opening?

And if I'm going to open up the space beneath the lintel, how much
supporting brick has to be left under either end of the lintel for it to
stay safe?


I'd be really grateful if anybody can help me forward with this problem.

Cheers,
Ian

I doubt the opening in your fireplace is going to be that wide?

How wide is the "chimney breast" from side to side?

I rebuilt mine after removing an old back boiler/solid fuel fire and
the opening is no where near that width.
I would have thought it would involve some engineering to have the
opening that wide and not make the chimney stack unsafe/unstable.

Mark S.

Standard fireplace width?
 

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:02:17 +0000 (UTC), "Ian Mayo"
wrote:


Cheers for that Mark,

(I've top-posted in order to keep my original message - it didn't appear in
my newsreader so it's difficult to follow the thread.)

Hey, now that's caused a panic! Engineering? Stack unsafe?

Well, I've just measured it and the chimney breast is 135 cm (4 1/2 ft)
across (external dimensions). Allowing for a couple of rows of bricks on
either side the internal dimensions (re-calculated after trying to measure
off the web image) of 90 cm across may just be ok.

This just leaves me wondering about the lintel. Is is likely that the
lintel reaches the whole way across the fireplace, or just a portion of it?

Cheers,

Ian.


Mine had been rebuilt without any lintel when the boiler was installed
hence the floor to roof crack in the stack. ;-)

I put one in from B&Q, concrete - I've put a picture of the rebuilt
fireplace on Yahoo for you to have a look at.

http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/marknicesenior

I'm not sure of how little support you can get away with, someone with
a bit more knowledge needed I think. :-)

Mark S.

Standard fireplace width?
 

Thanks Mark - congrats on the nice handywork.

Yes, I'll have to "probe deeper"..

Ian

"Mark S." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:02:17 +0000 (UTC), "Ian Mayo"
wrote:


Cheers for that Mark,

(I've top-posted in order to keep my original message - it didn't appear
in
my newsreader so it's difficult to follow the thread.)

Hey, now that's caused a panic! Engineering? Stack unsafe?

Well, I've just measured it and the chimney breast is 135 cm (4 1/2 ft)
across (external dimensions). Allowing for a couple of rows of bricks on
either side the internal dimensions (re-calculated after trying to
measure
off the web image) of 90 cm across may just be ok.

This just leaves me wondering about the lintel. Is is likely that the
lintel reaches the whole way across the fireplace, or just a portion of
it?

Cheers,

Ian.


Mine had been rebuilt without any lintel when the boiler was installed
hence the floor to roof crack in the stack. ;-)

I put one in from B&Q, concrete - I've put a picture of the rebuilt
fireplace on Yahoo for you to have a look at.

http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/marknicesenior

I'm not sure of how little support you can get away with, someone with
a bit more knowledge needed I think. :-)

Mark S.