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At the insistence of SWMBO I'm trying to hang various pictures around
the house. Problem: the house is built from a type of white brick which is very hard and shatters given half a chance. Hardened picture hanging pins (black shank with brass head) bend as if made of toffee. I presume that these: http://tinyurl.com/ywx855 hardwall picture hooks - described as not suitable for plastered walls - cannot be used. I do not have dado rails and they would not suit the house. Suggestions as to how to hang the pictures eagerly sought. TIA Richard |
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On 27/01/2008 15:00, Richard wrote:
Hardened picture hanging pins (black shank with brass head) bend as if made of toffee. Suggestions as to how to hang the pictures eagerly sought. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=230215706650 |
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On 27 Jan, 15:00, Richard wrote:
At the insistence of SWMBO I'm trying to hang various pictures around the house. Problem: *the house is built from a type of white brick which is very hard and shatters given half a chance. Hardened picture hanging pins (black shank with brass head) bend as if made of toffee. I presume that these: *http://tinyurl.com/ywx855*hardwall picture hooks - described as not suitable for plastered walls - cannot be used. I do not have dado rails and they would not suit the house. Suggestions as to how to hang the pictures eagerly sought. TIA Richard If they're not appreciably heavy you can get self adhesive hooks. For aesthetics you'd probably want to hang the pictures so they are hidden though. |
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Richard wrote:
At the insistence of SWMBO I'm trying to hang various pictures around the house. Problem: the house is built from a type of white brick which is very hard and shatters given half a chance. Hardened picture hanging pins (black shank with brass head) bend as if made of toffee. I presume that these: http://tinyurl.com/ywx855 hardwall picture hooks - described as not suitable for plastered walls - cannot be used. Quite the reverse - they are designed for very hard walls. I think the B&Q site means 'not suitable forplasterboard walls' or 'not suitable for plaster skimmed walls' - in the latter case the pins might be too short to reach solid brick. My house in cement rendered and OBO masonry nails bend! Those picture hooks are what we use. Suggestions as to how to hang the pictures eagerly sought. SDS drill, wall plugs & screws, or for very light pictures No More Nails. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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Lino expert wrote:
On 27 Jan, 15:00, Richard wrote: At the insistence of SWMBO I'm trying to hang various pictures around the house. Problem: the house is built from a type of white brick which is very hard and shatters given half a chance. Hardened picture hanging pins (black shank with brass head) bend as if made of toffee. I presume that these: http://tinyurl.com/ywx855 hardwall picture hooks - described as not suitable for plastered walls - cannot be used. Ideal for brick I would have thought. Nice because you hit all 4 pins at once with your (sledge?) hammer |
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On 27 Jan, 15:21, Lino expert wrote:
On 27 Jan, 15:00, Richard wrote: At the insistence of SWMBO I'm trying to hang various pictures around the house. Problem: *the house is built from a type of white brick which is very hard and shatters given half a chance. Hardened picture hanging pins (black shank with brass head) bend as if made of toffee. I presume that these: *http://tinyurl.com/ywx855*hardwall picture hooks - described as not suitable for plastered walls - cannot be used. I do not have dado rails and they would not suit the house. Suggestions as to how to hang the pictures eagerly sought. TIA Richard If they're not appreciably heavy you can get self adhesive hooks. For aesthetics you'd probably want to hang the pictures so they are hidden though.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I'll try a link to see if it works, if not, they're on Amazon http://www.amazon.co.uk/Command-Pict...1447944&sr=1-1 |
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"Richard" wrote in message ... At the insistence of SWMBO I'm trying to hang various pictures around the house. Problem: the house is built from a type of white brick which is very hard and shatters given half a chance. Hardened picture hanging pins (black shank with brass head) bend as if made of toffee. I presume that these: http://tinyurl.com/ywx855 hardwall picture hooks - described as not suitable for plastered walls - cannot be used. I do not have dado rails and they would not suit the house. Suggestions as to how to hang the pictures eagerly sought. TIA Richard 3M have a new range of adhesive hooks etc, that are also removable, think B&Q do them HTH |
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"Richard" wrote in message ... At the insistence of SWMBO I'm trying to hang various pictures around the house. Problem: the house is built from a type of white brick which is very hard and shatters given half a chance. Hardened picture hanging pins (black shank with brass head) bend as if made of toffee. I presume that these: http://tinyurl.com/ywx855 hardwall picture hooks - described as not suitable for plastered walls - cannot be used. I do not have dado rails and they would not suit the house. Suggestions as to how to hang the pictures eagerly sought. TIA Richard 3M have a new range of adhesive hooks etc, that are also removable, think B&Q do them HTH Thanks Tim and Lino Expert - I've glanced from afar at those things. I've always assumed that they promised to just about everything bar turn lead into gold, if you see what I mean. I'll try some. And thanks Dave, I'll also try the multi pin thingies. Cheers Richard |
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:00:10 +0000, Richard wrote:
At the insistence of SWMBO I'm trying to hang various pictures around the house. Problem: the house is built from a type of white brick which is very hard and shatters given half a chance. Hardened picture hanging pins (black shank with brass head) bend as if made of toffee. I presume that these: http://tinyurl.com/ywx855 hardwall picture hooks - described as not suitable for plastered walls - cannot be used. I do not have dado rails and they would not suit the house. Suggestions as to how to hang the pictures eagerly sought. Hang them from a picture rail. -- Frank Erskine |
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Problem: the house is built from a type of white brick which is very hard and shatters given half a chance. I presume that these: http://tinyurl.com/ywx855 hardwall picture hooks - described as not suitable for plastered walls - cannot be used. I use those on ('50s hard) plaster all the time and find them very good. You can also remove them with little damage just with a few gentle taps on the side with a small hammer. The quick answer is invest in a bag of them and try. (Screwfix do a couple of different sizes) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Frank Erskine wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:00:10 +0000, Richard wrote: At the insistence of SWMBO I'm trying to hang various pictures around the house. Problem: the house is built from a type of white brick which is very hard and shatters given half a chance. Hardened picture hanging pins (black shank with brass head) bend as if made of toffee. I presume that these: http://tinyurl.com/ywx855 hardwall picture hooks - described as not suitable for plastered walls - cannot be used. I do not have dado rails and they would not suit the house. Suggestions as to how to hang the pictures eagerly sought. Hang them from a picture rail. Please see (my) line second from bottom. I assumed that as no one had corrected me that this was the posh ;-) term for a picture rail. Sorry and all that, but the style of the house won't take them and I have to hang the blasted pictures in most rooms and all of the corridors :-( Richard |
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writes I do not have dado rails and they would not suit the house. Suggestions as to how to hang the pictures eagerly sought. Hang them from a picture rail. Please see (my) line second from bottom. I assumed that as no one had corrected me that this was the posh ;-) term for a picture rail. Sorry and all that, but the style of the house won't take them and I have to hang the blasted pictures in most rooms and all of the corridors :-( A dado rail is traditionally around 3ft from the floor and would be a strange place to hang pictures from unless for small children. -- Si |
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"Richard" wrote in message ... At the insistence of SWMBO I'm trying to hang various pictures around the house. Problem: the house is built from a type of white brick which is very hard and shatters given half a chance. Hardened picture hanging pins (black shank with brass head) bend as if made of toffee. I presume that these: http://tinyurl.com/ywx855 hardwall picture hooks - described as not suitable for plastered walls - cannot be used. I do not have dado rails and they would not suit the house. Suggestions as to how to hang the pictures eagerly sought. TIA Richard You can buy tiny wall plugs and masonary bit you know. ;-) |
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Si $3o&m wrote:
A dado rail is traditionally around 3ft from the floor and would be a strange place to hang pictures from unless for small children. But an excellent place to hang small children. |
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"Richard" wrote in message ... At the insistence of SWMBO I'm trying to hang various pictures around the house. Problem: the house is built from a type of white brick which is very hard and shatters given half a chance. Hardened picture hanging pins (black shank with brass head) bend as if made of toffee. I presume that these: http://tinyurl.com/ywx855 hardwall picture hooks - described as not suitable for plastered walls - cannot be used. I do not have dado rails and they would not suit the house. Suggestions as to how to hang the pictures eagerly sought. Ask SWMBO. Mary |
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"Si" $3o&m wrote in message ... In message , Richard writes I do not have dado rails and they would not suit the house. Suggestions as to how to hang the pictures eagerly sought. Hang them from a picture rail. Please see (my) line second from bottom. I assumed that as no one had corrected me that this was the posh ;-) term for a picture rail. Sorry and all that, but the style of the house won't take them and I have to hang the blasted pictures in most rooms and all of the corridors :-( A dado rail is traditionally around 3ft from the floor and would be a strange place to hang pictures from unless for small children. Yes, they're to protect the walls from being damaged by upright chair backs. Mary -- Si |
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"Richard" wrote in message ... At the insistence of SWMBO I'm trying to hang various pictures around the house. Problem: the house is built from a type of white brick which is very hard and shatters given half a chance. Hardened picture hanging pins (black shank with brass head) bend as if made of toffee. I presume that these: http://tinyurl.com/ywx855 hardwall picture hooks - described as not suitable for plastered walls - cannot be used. I do not have dado rails and they would not suit the house. Suggestions as to how to hang the pictures eagerly sought. TIA Richard Make mirror plates. We inherited a lot of very heavy oil paintings and Spouse made plates to hold them. They can be painted over (or papered if that's still used) and won't show. Mary |
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says... A dado rail is traditionally around 3ft from the floor and would be a strange place to hang pictures from unless for small children. Originally intended to protect plaster walls from chair-backs. -- Skipweasel. Never knowingly understood. |
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writes "Si" $3o&m wrote in message ... In message , Richard writes I do not have dado rails and they would not suit the house. Suggestions as to how to hang the pictures eagerly sought. Hang them from a picture rail. Please see (my) line second from bottom. I assumed that as no one had corrected me that this was the posh ;-) term for a picture rail. Sorry and all that, but the style of the house won't take them and I have to hang the blasted pictures in most rooms and all of the corridors :-( A dado rail is traditionally around 3ft from the floor and would be a strange place to hang pictures from unless for small children. Yes, they're to protect the walls from being damaged by upright chair backs. They were originally to hide the unsightly damage done to walls by rising damp. -- Si |
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In article , says... I presume that these: http://tinyurl.com/ywx855 hardwall picture hooks - described as not suitable for plastered walls - cannot be used. They work on our very hard concrete walls. So would they work on my plaster-on-white-brick walls. _Global apology for dado/picture rail faux pas_ Richard |
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Mary Fisher wrote:
Ask SWMBO. Mary I did: "I don't care as long as you hang them were I want them" So I went and fixed the dead alternator on the RR in the dark. What's your solution Mary? Richard ;-) |
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On 27 Jan, 23:12, Richard wrote:
Mary Fisher wrote: Ask SWMBO. Mary I did: "I don't care as long as you hang them were I want them" So I went and fixed the dead alternator on the RR in the dark. Perhaps a liberal application of No-More-Nails on the back of the pictures? Mark you, SWMBO may not appreciate being taught that accurate and complete specifications are useful - "Oh - you wanted to be able to take them down as well, did you? You didn't *say* that." Sid |
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"Richard" wrote in message ... Mary Fisher wrote: Ask SWMBO. Mary I did: "I don't care as long as you hang them were I want them" So I went and fixed the dead alternator on the RR in the dark. What's your solution Mary? Richard ;-) You should have married me. Mary |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message .uk... Richard wrote: At the insistence of SWMBO I'm trying to hang various pictures around the house. Problem: the house is built from a type of white brick which is very hard and shatters given half a chance. Hardened picture hanging pins (black shank with brass head) bend as if made of toffee. I presume that these: http://tinyurl.com/ywx855 hardwall picture hooks - described as not suitable for plastered walls - cannot be used. Quite the reverse - they are designed for very hard walls. I think the B&Q site means 'not suitable forplasterboard walls' or 'not suitable for plaster skimmed walls' - in the latter case the pins might be too short to reach solid brick. My house in cement rendered and OBO masonry nails bend! Those picture hooks are what we use. Seconded. In our old 1930s flat the walls were made of bricks "that seemed to have a core made out of coal" or some similar fiendishly hard material. We could just about get an OBO masonry nail in if we were lucky, but those plastic hooks with the 3 or 4 sharp pins were VERY successful. We still use them in our modern house, including on plasterboard in a few cases - for very light pictures only. Regarding the 3M self adhesive hooks - think I'd avoid those if you want your pictures to stay up for a long time. I used some of their self adhesive "3M Control" hooks in the conservatory a few years ago to put up some Christmas lights - tacky eh? Anyway they stuck like s**t to the UPVC window frames, but this year when I went to refit the lights to the hooks they just fell off - the adhesive had packed up. Maybe the combination of wildly varying temperatures and the slight dampness/condensation, but I wouldn't use them again. Regards, Simon. |
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Mary Fisher wrote:
I did: "I don't care as long as you hang them were I want them" So I went and fixed the dead alternator on the RR in the dark. What's your solution Mary? Richard ;-) You should have married me. Mary If only! So many opportunities pass us by Richard :-) |
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