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[email protected] January 21st 08 08:55 PM

Fixing removable panel for concealed cistern
 
Hi,

Does anyone have any recommendations on how to fix a tiled removable
panel for a concealed cistern?

I'd rather not have capped screws (the easy choice), I'd prefer to
keep the fixings concealed. I've seen some magnetic catches from
Schlüter®-REMA recommended but are there any other suggestions?

I had wondered about push-to-release cupboard latches but don't know
if they will hold the panel still enough (and can't find anywhere that
sells them).

Are there any other methods?

TIA,
Andy

Cicero January 21st 08 09:24 PM

Fixing removable panel for concealed cistern
 
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:55:37 -0800, ajuniper wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone have any recommendations on how to fix a tiled removable panel
for a concealed cistern?

I'd rather not have capped screws (the easy choice), I'd prefer to keep
the fixings concealed. I've seen some magnetic catches from
Schlüter®-REMA recommended but are there any other suggestions?

I had wondered about push-to-release cupboard latches but don't know if
they will hold the panel still enough (and can't find anywhere that sells
them).

Are there any other methods?

TIA,
Andy


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You could use a top-hung panel with concealed hinges which avoid the need
for a separate catch. Have a look at your kitchen cupboard doors to see if
they would work for you.

http://www.screwfix.com/cats/A333003...ncealed-Hinges

Cic.

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John January 21st 08 10:16 PM

Fixing removable panel for concealed cistern
 

"Cicero" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:55:37 -0800, ajuniper wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone have any recommendations on how to fix a tiled removable
panel
for a concealed cistern?

I'd rather not have capped screws (the easy choice), I'd prefer to keep
the fixings concealed. I've seen some magnetic catches from
Schlüter®-REMA recommended but are there any other suggestions?

I had wondered about push-to-release cupboard latches but don't know if
they will hold the panel still enough (and can't find anywhere that sells
them).

Are there any other methods?

TIA,
Andy


==================================
You could use a top-hung panel with concealed hinges which avoid the need
for a separate catch. Have a look at your kitchen cupboard doors to see if
they would work for you.

http://www.screwfix.com/cats/A333003...ncealed-Hinges

Cic.

--
===================================
Using Ubuntu Linux
Windows shown the door
===================================


You could use the type of fixing where you lift the panel to release it -
many public toilets use this idea for the wall panels. (sorry - don't know
what they are called)



Bolted[_2_] January 21st 08 10:24 PM

Fixing removable panel for concealed cistern
 
wrote:

Are there any other methods?


These:
http://tinyurl.com/2mndj4

[email protected] January 21st 08 10:26 PM

Fixing removable panel for concealed cistern
 
What's the best way of concealing the join/hinge lines?

I'd prefer to grout the joins to keep them hidden, but will grout just
fall out with a bit of movement? With hinges I'd be a bit concerned
that the panel wouldn't be totally secure and the grout around the
edge of the panel would come loose.

Also, is there some way of stopping the grout sticking to one side of
the grout line?

Or is it best to seal the panel with sealant and put up with having to
cut it to open the panel?

[email protected] January 21st 08 10:33 PM

Fixing removable panel for concealed cistern
 
On 21 Jan, 22:24, Bolted wrote:
wrote:
Are there any other methods?


These: http://tinyurl.com/2mndj4


They look pretty useful, how big are they? And more importantly how
much space do you need on the edge to be able to lift the panel off?
Or is there some magic release mechanism (I guess not for the price!).

Thanks,
Andy

Bolted[_2_] January 21st 08 10:46 PM

Fixing removable panel for concealed cistern
 
wrote:

They look pretty useful, how big are they? And more importantly how
much space do you need on the edge to be able to lift the panel off?
Or is there some magic release mechanism (I guess not for the price!).


Detailed drawings can be found he
http://www.fix8.co.uk/products/Hardw...cts/KeKu+Clips

One sort presses on, rather than dropping on, so shouldn't need much
edge clearance, but I haven't used them, just noticed them and mentally
stored them for later.

I just used s/s socket cap screws on the tiled access panel I've done,
as it went with the look anyway. Oh and I siliconed the gap and if I
ever need to access, I'll cut it.

sm_jamieson January 21st 08 11:02 PM

Fixing removable panel for concealed cistern
 
On 21 Jan, 22:26, wrote:
What's the best way of concealing the join/hinge lines?

I'd prefer to grout the joins to keep them hidden, but will grout just
fall out with a bit of movement? With hinges I'd be a bit concerned
that the panel wouldn't be totally secure and the grout around the
edge of the panel would come loose.

Also, is there some way of stopping the grout sticking to one side of
the grout line?

Or is it best to seal the panel with sealant and put up with having to
cut it to open the panel?


Yep, usually seal and cut open. I did that around the panel that gives
me access to my bath plumbing. Would be a bit of a pain, but probably
the best option if it needs to waterproof etc.
Simon.

Stuart Noble January 22nd 08 12:19 PM

Fixing removable panel for concealed cistern
 
sm_jamieson wrote:
On 21 Jan, 22:26, wrote:
What's the best way of concealing the join/hinge lines?

I'd prefer to grout the joins to keep them hidden, but will grout just
fall out with a bit of movement? With hinges I'd be a bit concerned
that the panel wouldn't be totally secure and the grout around the
edge of the panel would come loose.

Also, is there some way of stopping the grout sticking to one side of
the grout line?

Or is it best to seal the panel with sealant and put up with having to
cut it to open the panel?


Yep, usually seal and cut open. I did that around the panel that gives
me access to my bath plumbing. Would be a bit of a pain, but probably
the best option if it needs to waterproof etc.
Simon.


I'd use velcro, and possibly an acrylic sealant that could be easily
removed and replaced

[email protected] January 22nd 08 03:29 PM

Fixing removable panel for concealed cistern
 
I had wondered about a push-to-release catch (e.g. Tutch Latch) -
http://www.sdslondon.co.uk/product/6...tch_latch.html - but
I've just found them in Homebase and they are very sensitive to
release, I'm sure that they would keep letting go when being cleaned.

Has anyone had any experience with magentic release childproof latches
- http://www.sdslondon.co.uk/product/6...ety_catch.html
- as, provided I can get the magnet close enough to the back of the
tile, it seems like an ideal solution?

The Medway Handyman January 22nd 08 11:32 PM

Fixing removable panel for concealed cistern
 
wrote:
Hi,

Does anyone have any recommendations on how to fix a tiled removable
panel for a concealed cistern?

I'd rather not have capped screws (the easy choice), I'd prefer to
keep the fixings concealed. I've seen some magnetic catches from
Schlüter®-REMA recommended but are there any other suggestions?

I had wondered about push-to-release cupboard latches but don't know
if they will hold the panel still enough (and can't find anywhere that
sells them).

Are there any other methods?


You could try a Flush Mount
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/11423/...ush-Mount-35mm

These depend on the panel being proud of the surface all round, its how they
fix the panels in public loo's.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257



[email protected] January 23rd 08 12:51 PM

Fixing removable panel for concealed cistern
 
Thanks for that idea, unfortunately I don't think that there will be
sufficient space above the panel to lift off since there will be a
countertop which overhangs the tiles :-(

Andy

On Jan 22, 11:32 pm, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
wrote:
Hi,


Does anyone have any recommendations on how to fix a tiled removable
panel for a concealed cistern?


I'd rather not have capped screws (the easy choice), I'd prefer to
keep the fixings concealed. I've seen some magnetic catches from
Schlüter®-REMA recommended but are there any other suggestions?


I had wondered about push-to-release cupboard latches but don't know
if they will hold the panel still enough (and can't find anywhere that
sells them).


Are there any other methods?


You could try a Flush Mounthttp://www.screwfix.com/prods/11423/Ironmongery/Brackets/Brackets/Flu...

These depend on the panel being proud of the surface all round, its how they
fix the panels in public loo's.

--
Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257



Alex January 23rd 08 05:07 PM

Fixing removable panel for concealed cistern
 
http://www.woodfit.com/product_info....ctor+-+2+piece

Use these clips for complete invisible fixing,these are used in hotels for
fixing bath panels and hideaway panels,and i also used them for fixing the
wood tops in my own hideaway panel.


[email protected] February 28th 16 11:18 AM

Fixing removable panel for concealed cistern
 
On Monday, 21 January 2008 20:55:37 UTC, wrote:
Hi,

Does anyone have any recommendations on how to fix a tiled removable
panel for a concealed cistern?

I'd rather not have capped screws (the easy choice), I'd prefer to
keep the fixings concealed.


I'm using these to make the front of my cistern cabinet removable

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Hard.../sd2674/p59928

Graham.[_11_] February 28th 16 02:02 PM

Fixing removable panel for concealed cistern
 
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 03:18:13 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Monday, 21 January 2008 20:55:37 UTC, wrote:
Hi,

Does anyone have any recommendations on how to fix a tiled removable
panel for a concealed cistern?

I'd rather not have capped screws (the easy choice), I'd prefer to
keep the fixings concealed.


I'm using these to make the front of my cistern cabinet removable

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Hard.../sd2674/p59928

Crikey, we've been waiting 8 years for that!

--

Graham.

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