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Anyone recommend a decent automatic wire stripper, mainly for use with
electronics projects and automotice work ? (occasional use but frequent) Time to put the old stanley knife away before I hurt myself trying to splice a wire Thanks |
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On 2008-01-18 00:51:47 +0000, "James" said:
Anyone recommend a decent automatic wire stripper, mainly for use with electronics projects and automotice work ? (occasional use but frequent) Time to put the old stanley knife away before I hurt myself trying to splice a wire Thanks Occasional use but frequent? |
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James wrote:
Anyone recommend a decent automatic wire stripper, mainly for use with electronics projects and automotice work ? (occasional use but frequent) Time to put the old stanley knife away before I hurt myself trying to splice a wire Thanks Oh, you can hurt yourself with any type of tool if you are inept enough :-) Are you meaning a hand tool, or the type of electrically powered device that would normally be used in a production environment? If a hand tool, there are various types available, (most of which I own!) but no one tool that will work equally well with the sizes of cable used on cars, *and* the sizes likely to be encountered on an electronic project. Post back with a more specific request and I might be able to advise further. Chris -- Remove prejudice to reply. |
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"James" wrote in message ... Anyone recommend a decent automatic wire stripper, mainly for use with electronics projects and automotice work ? (occasional use but frequent) Time to put the old stanley knife away before I hurt myself trying to splice a wire Thanks http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?...source=15&SD=Y |
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"Malcolm H" wrote in message ... "James" wrote in message ... Anyone recommend a decent automatic wire stripper, mainly for use with electronics projects and automotice work ? (occasional use but frequent) Time to put the old stanley knife away before I hurt myself trying to splice a wire Thanks http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?...source=15&SD=Y This kind is good IME: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...per&doy=1 8m1 This kind is convenient but sometimes is absolutely terrible: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...per&doy=18 m1 I tend to use a sharp pair of knipex cutters and be careful. Usually quicker than finding the strippers . |
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On Jan 18, 8:27*am, "Doki" wrote:
"Malcolm H" wrote in message ... "James" wrote in message ... Anyone recommend a decent automatic wire stripper, mainly for use with electronics projects and automotice work ? (occasional use but frequent) Time to put the old stanley knife away before I hurt myself trying to splice a wire Thanks http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?...source=15&SD=Y The first one on that page is ****e. It works but if you over use it or put a cable in that's too big they'll break. This kind is good IME: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...eria=stripper&.... Yup, lasts for ever. This kind is convenient but sometimes is absolutely terrible: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...ria=stripper&d.... Yes I've got a pair of heavy duty ones at work and they are good but the adjuster doesn't always seem to work too well. -- Malc |
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In uk.d-i-y, Doki wrote:
"Malcolm H" wrote in message news:XeZjj.27870$a61 ... "James" wrote in message news:9dednW50R4K8ZRLaRVnyh ... Anyone recommend a decent automatic wire stripper, mainly for use with electronics projects and automotice work ? (occasional use but frequent) Time to put the old stanley knife away before I hurt myself trying to splice a wire Thanks http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?...source=15&SD=Y This kind is good IME: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...per&doy=1 8m1 This kind is convenient but sometimes is absolutely terrible: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...per&doy=18 m1 One of these has been my firm favourite over the last 40 years or so... http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?...45237&doy=18m1 .... the only problem being that it's a bit awkward to squeeze the head into very tight spots. For accessible wires it's great, though, and it certainly passes the durability test. (At this rate we'll soon have recommended everything Maplin has to offer) -- Mike Barnes |
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James wrote: Anyone recommend a decent automatic wire stripper, mainly for use with electronics projects and automotice work ? (occasional use but frequent) Time to put the old stanley knife away before I hurt myself trying to splice a wire I have, I reckon, every type ever made, and only one stands out as being better than the others - and by a big margin. It's not fully automatic in that it has four apertures in the cutters so you do have to guess which one to use - but this isn't difficult. All the universal ones I've tried that attempt to set themselves automatically will let you down at some time by not stripping or even snapping thinnish cable. However, it's also one of the more expensive ones. This is the one I've got :- http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/Tools,+Storage+&+Handling/Pliers,+Cutters,+Strippers+&+Crimp+Tools/IDEAL/45-092/displayProduct.jsp?sku=TL00598 There are other makes IIRC that use the same principle and may be cheaper. Gets used for both car and electronics. Worth noting most of these strippers need at least some space round them to be used which is fine in the workshop but may not always be available when working on a car loom. So a choice is always worth having - like one which works from the end of the cable rather than the side. -- *A 'jiffy' is an actual unit of time for 1/100th of a second. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:56:00 +0000, Mike Barnes wrote:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=31689 This kind is good IME: Manual size adjustment. If you are stripping alot of the the same sized wire that is OK but with different sizes it isn't as convient as: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=4254 This kind is convenient but sometimes is absolutely terrible: I reach for this type one in my tool box in preference to the first. It can be a bit to viscious on really fine wires such as the core of walkperson headphone cable after you have been stripping 2.5mm T&E but that is more down to operator error in not winding the blade tension right down. B-) One of these has been my firm favourite over the last 40 years or so... http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=45237 Does it only work with the sizes quoted? How well does it deal with really fine wires? The second above isn't bothered about wire size a great deal unless very fine. It's not perfect the blade alignment isn't straight, one side grips tighter than the other, but it is an el cheapo one, may even be from Maplins cough years ago... http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/mo...cpc/269517.xml Might be a better quailty tool but I know nothing about it. (At this rate we'll soon have recommended everything Maplin has to offer) Naw, maybe the OP ought to drop into a shop with a selection of wires he normally needs to strip and have a play to see which he prefers. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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James wrote:
Anyone recommend a decent automatic wire stripper, mainly for use with electronics projects and automotice work ? (occasional use but frequent) Time to put the old stanley knife away before I hurt myself trying to splice a wire This may suit your needs. http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...ipper&doy=18m1 Peter Crosland |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , James wrote: Anyone recommend a decent automatic wire stripper, mainly for use with electronics projects and automotice work ? (occasional use but frequent) Time to put the old stanley knife away before I hurt myself trying to splice a wire I have, I reckon, every type ever made, and only one stands out as being better than the others - and by a big margin. It's not fully automatic in that it has four apertures in the cutters so you do have to guess which one to use - but this isn't difficult. All the universal ones I've tried that attempt to set themselves automatically will let you down at some time by not stripping or even snapping thinnish cable. However, it's also one of the more expensive ones. This is the one I've got :- http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/Tools,+Storage+&+Handling/Pliers,+Cutters,+Strippers+&+Crimp+Tools/IDEAL/45-092/displayProduct.jsp?sku=TL00598 There are other makes IIRC that use the same principle and may be cheaper. Such as this one from Maplin for £7.48. http://snipurl.com/1xpq9 Gets used for both car and electronics. Worth noting most of these strippers need at least some space round them to be used which is fine in the workshop but may not always be available when working on a car loom. So a choice is always worth having - like one which works from the end of the cable rather than the side. I have the similar/same? one from RS. As you say, can be difficult to use in some situations. Short leads, confined spaces etc. Otherwise they work well. Mike. |
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On Jan 18, 12:51*am, "James" wrote:
Anyone recommend a decent automatic wire stripper, mainly for use with electronics projects and automotice work ? (occasional use but frequent) Time to put the old stanley knife away before I hurt myself trying to splice a wire Thanks Automotive uses a wide range of cable sizes but I've found the cheap tools do a good job for most of the normal wires. Big alternator and starter cables need something more apropriate of course. Cheap tools will break sooner than the better versions so buy another as soon as you've made sure it's what you want. Some will say that makes them the same cost as a better one. However, even the expensive ones will break eventually so (if they're critical) you still need two. John |
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"Doki" wrote in message
... This kind is good IME: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...per&doy=1 8m1 I'll second that. Have used numerous wire strippers and always seem to come back to an old but cheap favourite. Many years ago B&Q used to sell a kit that consisted of the top two products on this page: http://www.plasplugs.com/electricians.html The 'automatic wire stripper' takes a bit of getting used to but the user is left in control of the force with which the blades bite through the sheath and the point where that force pulls back the sleeve. Takes a little time to master but performs really nicely. Stuart |
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:51:47 -0000, James wrote:
Anyone recommend a decent automatic wire stripper, mainly for use with electronics projects and automotice work ? (occasional use but frequent) Time to put the old stanley knife away before I hurt myself trying to splice a wire Thanks There's little to beat an Abeco powerstrip. |
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In uk.d-i-y, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:56:00 +0000, Mike Barnes wrote: One of these has been my firm favourite over the last 40 years or so... http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=45237 Does it only work with the sizes quoted? No, intermediate sizes work fine, I just guess (erring on the side of caution obviously) and move to a smaller slot if necessary. But with surprisingly little practice you get to know which slot to use. How well does it deal with really fine wires I don't know how fine you mean but the inners of phone cable and alarm cable are no problem at all, and some of the wires I've stripped are noticeably thinner than that. Having said that my range of sizes isn't the same as Maplin's. Peering through the grime I see: Mine: 0.6 1.2 1.8 2.0 Maplin: 0.51 1.2 1.6 2.0 2.6 3.2 Presumably there's a choice of sizes of cutters depending on which supplier you go to. The Maplin offering looks mechanically *identical* to my 1960s tool, so I suspect they're all the same, with a wide range of (interchangeable) cutter sizes manufactured, but a limited range from any one supplier. By positioning the wire on the shoulder beside the largest slot, I can cut right through it instead of stripping it (occasionally saving me the trouble of reaching for another tool), but there might not be space for that on a six-slot model. the only problem being that it's a bit awkward to squeeze the head into very tight spots I might add that in an awkward spot, once you *have* got it in position, it strips without any (further) pulling on the wire. -- Mike Barnes |
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On 18 Jan, 09:42, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
I have, I reckon, every type ever made, and only one stands out as being better than the others - and by a big margin. It's not fully automatic in that it has four apertures in the cutters so you do have to guess which one to use - but this isn't difficult. All the universal ones I've tried that attempt to set themselves automatically will let you down at some time by not stripping or even snapping thinnish cable. However, it's also one of the more expensive ones. This is the one I've got :- http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/Tools,+Storage+&+Handling/Pliers,+Cutters,... I'll second that, great tools. Dunno about that one, but the version I've got has two sets of jaws, one for more 'electronics-sized' wires and one for bigger 'electrical-sizes'. |
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"James" wrote in message ... Anyone recommend a decent automatic wire stripper, mainly for use with electronics projects and automotice work ? (occasional use but frequent) Time to put the old stanley knife away before I hurt myself trying to splice a wire Thanks I bought this : http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/s...ct&R=443045 5 gets the job done, no stray 'hairs' and the extent of range is superb for my line of work. £40 too much?...go for some maplin stuff. Dan. |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message news:47900071@qaanaaq... On 2008-01-18 00:51:47 +0000, "James" said: Anyone recommend a decent automatic wire stripper, mainly for use with electronics projects and automotice work ? (occasional use but frequent) Time to put the old stanley knife away before I hurt myself trying to splice a wire Thanks Occasional use but frequent? Opsy I mean't to delete the frequent bit |
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Chris Whelan wrote:
James wrote: Anyone recommend a decent automatic wire stripper, mainly for use with electronics projects and automotice work ? (occasional use but frequent) Time to put the old stanley knife away before I hurt myself trying to splice a wire Oh, you can hurt yourself with any type of tool if you are inept enough.... Quite so. As I only do wire stripping infrequently, I use the side jaw of a pair of pliers like this one: http://www.hooverfence.com/tools/pliers-ft-p108.jpg. I watched my father did that. For fine electronic projects, I use a tiny cutting one nicking a bit of the plastic sheath (side of wire) and twist the wire end until the sheath breaks completely, then pull. It needs delicate hands and practice though. -- Lin Chung. [Paste ntlworld over the Water Margin to send a private e-mail.] |
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"Chris Whelan" wrote in message ... James wrote: Anyone recommend a decent automatic wire stripper, mainly for use with electronics projects and automotice work ? (occasional use but frequent) Time to put the old stanley knife away before I hurt myself trying to splice a wire Thanks Oh, you can hurt yourself with any type of tool if you are inept enough :-) Ahhh look up inept in the dictionary and there I am with a plaster on lol. Are you meaning a hand tool, or the type of electrically powered device that would normally be used in a production environment? I mean;t something along the lines for use with home diy and car wiring but not electrical a manual tool would be ideal. If a hand tool, there are various types available, (most of which I own!) but no one tool that will work equally well with the sizes of cable used on cars, *and* the sizes likely to be encountered on an electronic project. I've seen so many on the market after googling and ebaying and was a bit overwheled with the choices out there. Post back with a more specific request and I might be able to advise further. As I say I'll need something that is vuilt to last a lifetime mine prefereably, is specifically a automatic wire stripper and not a crimper or anything like that, although aplus if it can. Budget of £15/20 max .... also I something work in cinfined spaces so nothing the size of a chain saw. Chris P.s I came across http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...e-stripper.htm whilst on my hunting and thought it was very good ? |
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"Mike Barnes" wrote in message ... In uk.d-i-y, Doki wrote: "Malcolm H" wrote in message news:XeZjj.27870$a61 ... "James" wrote in message news:9dednW50R4K8ZRLaRVnyh ... Anyone recommend a decent automatic wire stripper, mainly for use with electronics projects and automotice work ? (occasional use but frequent) Time to put the old stanley knife away before I hurt myself trying to splice a wire Thanks http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?...source=15&SD=Y This kind is good IME: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...per&doy=1 8m1 This kind is convenient but sometimes is absolutely terrible: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...per&doy=18 m1 One of these has been my firm favourite over the last 40 years or so... http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?...45237&doy=18m1 ... the only problem being that it's a bit awkward to squeeze the head into very tight spots. For accessible wires it's great, though, and it certainly passes the durability test. (At this rate we'll soon have recommended everything Maplin has to offer) I suspect you all work for maplin |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.net... On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:56:00 +0000, Mike Barnes wrote: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=31689 This kind is good IME: Manual size adjustment. If you are stripping alot of the the same sized wire that is OK but with different sizes it isn't as convient as: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=4254 This kind is convenient but sometimes is absolutely terrible: I reach for this type one in my tool box in preference to the first. It can be a bit to viscious on really fine wires such as the core of walkperson headphone cable after you have been stripping 2.5mm T&E but that is more down to operator error in not winding the blade tension right down. B-) One of these has been my firm favourite over the last 40 years or so... http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=45237 Does it only work with the sizes quoted? How well does it deal with really fine wires? The second above isn't bothered about wire size a great deal unless very fine. It's not perfect the blade alignment isn't straight, one side grips tighter than the other, but it is an el cheapo one, may even be from Maplins cough years ago... http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/mo...cpc/269517.xml Might be a better quailty tool but I know nothing about it. (At this rate we'll soon have recommended everything Maplin has to offer) Naw, maybe the OP ought to drop into a shop with a selection of wires he normally needs to strip and have a play to see which he prefers. I thought about that and did so but maplin said they cannot take the strippers out of the packaging, they said they had some similar that they use and let me have a play with those. |
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"James" wrote in message ... "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.net... On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:56:00 +0000, Mike Barnes wrote: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=31689 This kind is good IME: Manual size adjustment. If you are stripping alot of the the same sized wire that is OK but with different sizes it isn't as convient as: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=4254 This kind is convenient but sometimes is absolutely terrible: I reach for this type one in my tool box in preference to the first. It can be a bit to viscious on really fine wires such as the core of walkperson headphone cable after you have been stripping 2.5mm T&E but that is more down to operator error in not winding the blade tension right down. B-) One of these has been my firm favourite over the last 40 years or so... http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=45237 Does it only work with the sizes quoted? How well does it deal with really fine wires? The second above isn't bothered about wire size a great deal unless very fine. It's not perfect the blade alignment isn't straight, one side grips tighter than the other, but it is an el cheapo one, may even be from Maplins cough years ago... http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/mo...cpc/269517.xml Might be a better quailty tool but I know nothing about it. (At this rate we'll soon have recommended everything Maplin has to offer) Naw, maybe the OP ought to drop into a shop with a selection of wires he normally needs to strip and have a play to see which he prefers. I thought about that and did so but maplin said they cannot take the strippers out of the packaging, they said they had some similar that they use and let me have a play with those. These ones look quite good http:/search.ebay.co.uk/180208161202 |
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:45:22 -0000, James wrote:
"James" wrote in message ... "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.net... On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:56:00 +0000, Mike Barnes wrote: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=31689 This kind is good IME: Manual size adjustment. If you are stripping alot of the the same sized wire that is OK but with different sizes it isn't as convient as: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=4254 This kind is convenient but sometimes is absolutely terrible: I reach for this type one in my tool box in preference to the first. It can be a bit to viscious on really fine wires such as the core of walkperson headphone cable after you have been stripping 2.5mm T&E but that is more down to operator error in not winding the blade tension right down. B-) One of these has been my firm favourite over the last 40 years or so... http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=45237 Does it only work with the sizes quoted? How well does it deal with really fine wires? The second above isn't bothered about wire size a great deal unless very fine. It's not perfect the blade alignment isn't straight, one side grips tighter than the other, but it is an el cheapo one, may even be from Maplins cough years ago... http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/mo...cpc/269517.xml Might be a better quailty tool but I know nothing about it. (At this rate we'll soon have recommended everything Maplin has to offer) Naw, maybe the OP ought to drop into a shop with a selection of wires he normally needs to strip and have a play to see which he prefers. I thought about that and did so but maplin said they cannot take the strippers out of the packaging, they said they had some similar that they use and let me have a play with those. These ones look quite good http:/search.ebay.co.uk/180208161202 I find they improved my use of colourfull language no end. |
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