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Si[_2_] January 14th 08 06:40 PM

differing strengths of cyanoacrylate ?
 

When I first bought cyanoacrylate glue in the 70s from West Hyde
Developments it was amazing, sticking things fast & well. It was truly
magical. :)

Over the years of buying equivalents from stationers and sheds I've felt
that it lacked efficacy and had almost given using it.

But, when buying the well-mentioned IR thermometer from Maplin recently
I made up the order with their BondLoc brand of cyanoacrylate. I've just
had cause to use it and it's again the amazing stuff I remember from
years back.

Are there differing strengths of 'superglue'?

--
Si

Brian G January 14th 08 07:32 PM

differing strengths of cyanoacrylate ?
 
Si wrote:
When I first bought cyanoacrylate glue in the 70s from West Hyde
Developments it was amazing, sticking things fast & well. It was truly
magical. :)

Over the years of buying equivalents from stationers and sheds I've
felt that it lacked efficacy and had almost given using it.

But, when buying the well-mentioned IR thermometer from Maplin
recently I made up the order with their BondLoc brand of
cyanoacrylate. I've just had cause to use it and it's again the
amazing stuff I remember from years back.

Are there differing strengths of 'superglue'?


Yes - and the prevailing weather conditions.

This is based on the fact that way back around 1998, I was in control of
UPVC manufacturing and fitting teams and because we were getting problems
with superglues not sticking, I got landed with a three week investigation
as to why - and had to write a damned report about it.

From memory, it turned out that quality was a factor on "strength", along
with not applying a catalyst to the UPVC materials prior to 'gluing up' in
cold weather conditions - rather than how it was used by the operatives.

Yes, the material was changed to better quality and the catalyst used in
cold weather conditions.

NB: This may well have changed now mind as I have not been involved with
this sort of thing for some seven years now.


Brian G



Stuart O'Donnell January 16th 08 06:03 PM

differing strengths of cyanoacrylate ?
 
Si wrote:

Are there differing strengths of 'superglue'?


The table at http://www.glue-shop.com/info2.htm gives a range of
strengths for different cyanoacrylates. The strength seems to depend
on the chemical base and less for the odourless versions.

--
spod

Si[_2_] January 17th 08 08:18 AM

differing strengths of cyanoacrylate ?
 
In message , Stuart O'Donnell
writes
Si wrote:

Are there differing strengths of 'superglue'?


The table at http://www.glue-shop.com/info2.htm gives a range of
strengths for different cyanoacrylates. The strength seems to depend
on the chemical base and less for the odourless versions.

Wow my question was dumb! Thank-you both for your responses. Maybe I'd
switched to buying the odourless version over the years though I don't
know why as I like the smell of cyanoacrylate. :)

That site recommends storing it in a freezer for long life. Can I just
put an unopened bottle in the freezer or is it likely to expand &
explode?

--
Si

The Natural Philosopher January 17th 08 01:38 PM

differing strengths of cyanoacrylate ?
 
Si wrote:
In message , Stuart O'Donnell
writes
Si wrote:

Are there differing strengths of 'superglue'?


The table at http://www.glue-shop.com/info2.htm gives a range of
strengths for different cyanoacrylates. The strength seems to depend
on the chemical base and less for the odourless versions.

Wow my question was dumb! Thank-you both for your responses. Maybe I'd
switched to buying the odourless version over the years though I don't
know why as I like the smell of cyanoacrylate. :)


I don't. Gives me asthma for days. I still use it tho ;-)



That site recommends storing it in a freezer for long life. Can I just
put an unopened bottle in the freezer or is it likely to expand & explode?


Don't think so. Freezing point is, I suspect, well below freezer temps.

Si[_2_] January 17th 08 05:46 PM

differing strengths of cyanoacrylate ?
 
In message , The Natural
Philosopher writes
Si wrote:
In message , Stuart O'Donnell
writes
Si wrote:

Are there differing strengths of 'superglue'?

The table at http://www.glue-shop.com/info2.htm gives a range of
strengths for different cyanoacrylates. The strength seems to depend
on the chemical base and less for the odourless versions.

Wow my question was dumb! Thank-you both for your responses. Maybe
I'd switched to buying the odourless version over the years though I
don't know why as I like the smell of cyanoacrylate. :)


I don't. Gives me asthma for days. I still use it tho ;-)

I hadn't noticed that effect. :)
(As a teenager I was able to get out of doing things I didn't want to by
drinking some orange/lemon squash concentrate - the tartrazine/E102
would have me wheezing for several hours.)

That site recommends storing it in a freezer for long life. Can I
just put an unopened bottle in the freezer or is it likely to expand
& explode?


Don't think so. Freezing point is, I suspect, well below freezer temps.


Ta - freezing it is then. :)

--
Si

The Natural Philosopher January 17th 08 06:15 PM

differing strengths of cyanoacrylate ?
 
Si wrote:
In message , The Natural
Philosopher writes
Si wrote:
In message , Stuart O'Donnell
writes
Si wrote:

Are there differing strengths of 'superglue'?

The table at http://www.glue-shop.com/info2.htm gives a range of
strengths for different cyanoacrylates. The strength seems to depend
on the chemical base and less for the odourless versions.

Wow my question was dumb! Thank-you both for your responses. Maybe
I'd switched to buying the odourless version over the years though I
don't know why as I like the smell of cyanoacrylate. :)


I don't. Gives me asthma for days. I still use it tho ;-)

I hadn't noticed that effect. :)
(As a teenager I was able to get out of doing things I didn't want to by
drinking some orange/lemon squash concentrate - the tartrazine/E102
would have me wheezing for several hours.)

That site recommends storing it in a freezer for long life. Can I
just put an unopened bottle in the freezer or is it likely to expand
& explode?


Don't think so. Freezing point is, I suspect, well below freezer temps.


Ta - freezing it is then. :)

Wish mine lasted long enough to warrant it..get through a small bottle
per model plane, usually.

And then sand most of it off later ;-)

geoff January 17th 08 10:11 PM

differing strengths of cyanoacrylate ?
 
In message , The Natural
Philosopher writes
That site recommends storing it in a freezer for long life. Can I
just put an unopened bottle in the freezer or is it likely to expand
& explode?


Don't think so. Freezing point is, I suspect, well below freezer temps.

Ta - freezing it is then. :)

Wish mine lasted long enough to warrant it..get through a small bottle
per model plane, usually.

Pah - Rod has six different superglues

That's what british champs are made of


--
geoff

whisky-dave January 18th 08 01:35 PM

differing strengths of cyanoacrylate ?
 

"Si" $3o&m wrote in message
...
In message , Stuart O'Donnell


That site recommends storing it in a freezer for long life. Can I just put
an unopened bottle in the freezer or is it likely to expand & explode?


I keep mine in a cool place, but I once (a fair few years ago) accidentally
dropped a few drips on a heated soldering iron, my eyes started stinging and
streaming
it was quite a nasty experience, I assume it was some sort of cyanide gase
being given off.




The Natural Philosopher January 18th 08 03:44 PM

differing strengths of cyanoacrylate ?
 
whisky-dave wrote:
"Si" $3o&m wrote in message
...
In message , Stuart O'Donnell


That site recommends storing it in a freezer for long life. Can I just put
an unopened bottle in the freezer or is it likely to expand & explode?


I keep mine in a cool place, but I once (a fair few years ago) accidentally
dropped a few drips on a heated soldering iron, my eyes started stinging and
streaming
it was quite a nasty experience, I assume it was some sort of cyanide gase
being given off.


No, its not cyanide, but boy does it irritate.

Even the set stuff will produce it if you e.g. grind it with a dremel.





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