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Janice October 23rd 07 08:57 PM

Going on holiday
 
Hi I am going on a fortnight's holiday next week and my house will be empty.
Since I live in Scotland there is the likelihood of frost. I have Johnson &
Starley warm air gas heating and a Janus water heater. What would be the
best way to protect the house from frost? Leave the heating on all the time
but turn the thermostat down and leave the pilot light on for the hot water?
What do other people do?

Thanks Jan



Andrew Gabriel October 23rd 07 09:31 PM

Going on holiday
 
In article ,
"Janice" writes:
Hi I am going on a fortnight's holiday next week and my house will be empty.
Since I live in Scotland there is the likelihood of frost. I have Johnson &
Starley warm air gas heating and a Janus water heater. What would be the
best way to protect the house from frost? Leave the heating on all the time
but turn the thermostat down and leave the pilot light on for the hot water?
What do other people do?


I would leave the heating on 24x7 at a setback temperature,
something like 10C. You could go even lower if you have no
pipework in unheated areas such as the attic. Don't know
what a Janus water heater is, but if it's an instant heater
with balanced flue, then that seems like a good idea to prevent
water in the heat exchanger freezing if theres a cold wind.
They usually have provision to drain the heat exchanger
pipework, but that might not be something you are happy to do.
Also turn off the water at the main stopcock so if it does
freeze and burst a pipe, the amount of water available to
cause damage is limited.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

Andy Hall October 23rd 07 09:32 PM

Going on holiday
 
On 2007-10-23 20:57:16 +0100, "Janice" said:

Hi I am going on a fortnight's holiday next week and my house will be empty.
Since I live in Scotland there is the likelihood of frost.


In Scotland, I'd be more worried about breakins.


I have Johnson &
Starley warm air gas heating and a Janus water heater. What would be the
best way to protect the house from frost? Leave the heating on all the time
but turn the thermostat down and leave the pilot light on for the hot water?


It would be better to have a frost thermostat.



What do other people do?


Live in different parts of the country to Scotland



Andy Hall October 23rd 07 10:35 PM

Going on holiday
 
On 2007-10-23 21:55:47 +0100, Owain said:

Andy Hall wrote:
"Janice" said:
Hi I am going on a fortnight's holiday next week and my house will be empty.
Since I live in Scotland there is the likelihood of frost.

In Scotland, I'd be more worried about breakins.


So you missed the "Best Place to Live in the UK" is Edinburgh, with a
crime level one-fifth that of the UK average?


Yes but there's different laws in that part of the country.




There is more to Scotland than a MacAldi shop in Craiglang.






What do other people do?

Live in different parts of the country to Scotland


There are quite a lot of English people in Edinburgh; I think we're the
number 2 immigrants after the Poles.



So what you're trying to tell me is that Hadrian's Wall didn't work any
better than Offa's Dyke........


Frank Erskine October 23rd 07 10:53 PM

Going on holiday
 
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:32:45 +0100, Andy Hall
wrote:

On 2007-10-23 20:57:16 +0100, "Janice" said:

What do other people do?


Live in different parts of the country to Scotland

Scotland *is* a different country :-)

--
Frank Erskine

Roger October 23rd 07 11:11 PM

Going on holiday
 
The message
from Owain contains these words:

There are quite a lot of English people in Edinburgh; I think we're the
number 2 immigrants after the Poles.


The East side of Scotland all the way to the Firth of Forth was part of
England for several hundred years (part of North Humberland really as
England wasn't united at that time) so the native antecedents are mostly
Angles anyway.

--
Roger Chapman

George October 23rd 07 11:18 PM

Going on holiday
 

"Owain" wrote in message

So you missed the "Best Place to Live in the UK" is Edinburgh, with a
crime level one-fifth that of the UK average?



Do you really believe all that bumph?

Each city in the UK has a bad part and good part Edinburgh is by no means a
good place to live, a neighbours MIL wanted to move from there because of
the burgalries happening in her area.



Andy Champ October 23rd 07 11:30 PM

Going on holiday
 
Frank Erskine wrote:
Scotland *is* a different country :-)

.... which is why their MPs can vote on English laws, but English MPs
can't vote on Scottish ones!

You might all notice that Janice hasn't said where she lives. I daresay
that in Caithness & Sutherland she needn't even lock the door. (I won't
give the opposite example, someone might be upset!)

I'd leave the heating on, but low. A fortnights gas bill is a heck of a
lot cheaper than a frozen pipe flood.

Andy

Dave Plowman (News) October 23rd 07 11:34 PM

Going on holiday
 
In article ,
Andy Hall wrote:
Hi I am going on a fortnight's holiday next week and my house will be
empty. Since I live in Scotland there is the likelihood of frost.


In Scotland, I'd be more worried about breakins.


I'll bet 10,000 quid there are parts of Scotland with a much lower crime
rate than where you live. If you exempt sheep shagging.

--
*Welcome to **** Creek - sorry, we're out of paddles*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

nightjar October 23rd 07 11:52 PM

Going on holiday
 

"Janice" wrote in message
.uk...
Hi I am going on a fortnight's holiday next week and my house will be
empty. Since I live in Scotland there is the likelihood of frost. I have
Johnson & Starley warm air gas heating and a Janus water heater. What
would be the best way to protect the house from frost? Leave the heating
on all the time but turn the thermostat down and leave the pilot light on
for the hot water? What do other people do?


I leave everything on as normal. When I did turn things down the savings
were not significant and the house could take a couple of days to warm up
properly when I came back.

Colin Bignell



The Medway Handyman October 24th 07 12:28 AM

Going on holiday
 
Owain wrote:
Andy Hall wrote:
"Janice" said:
Hi I am going on a fortnight's holiday next week and my house will
be empty.
Since I live in Scotland there is the likelihood of frost.

In Scotland, I'd be more worried about breakins.


So you missed the "Best Place to Live in the UK" is Edinburgh, with a
crime level one-fifth that of the UK average?

There is more to Scotland than a MacAldi shop in Craiglang.

What do other people do?

Live in different parts of the country to Scotland


There are quite a lot of English people in Edinburgh; I think we're
the number 2 immigrants after the Poles.


I went to a Polish restaurant in Edinburgh. Food was terrible, but the
plastering was great :-)


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257



S Viemeister October 24th 07 02:11 AM

Going on holiday
 
Andy Hall wrote:

On 2007-10-23 20:57:16 +0100, "Janice" said:

Hi I am going on a fortnight's holiday next week and my house will be
empty.
Since I live in Scotland there is the likelihood of frost.



In Scotland, I'd be more worried about breakins.


Scotland is more than just Glasgow.

Andy Hall October 24th 07 07:01 AM

Going on holiday
 
On 2007-10-23 22:53:41 +0100, Frank Erskine
said:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:32:45 +0100, Andy Hall
wrote:

On 2007-10-23 20:57:16 +0100, "Janice" said:

What do other people do?


Live in different parts of the country to Scotland

Scotland *is* a different country :-)


They'd like to think that, bless them.....



Roger October 24th 07 09:22 AM

Going on holiday
 
The message
from Anne Jackson contains these words:

Some might say that there are far too many English in Scotland...they're
pushing property prices up!


We have been hearing that sort of whinge from Wales for years but really
it is just the victim mentality giving voice. The reason why houses were
so cheap in Wales and, to a lesser extent, in Scotland was population
drift to England where the extra population pushed up house prices,
particularly in London and the Southeast where the population pressure
is greatest and development land scarcest.

--
Roger Chapman

Dave Gordon October 24th 07 05:13 PM

Going on holiday
 
"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Janice" writes:
Hi I am going on a fortnight's holiday next week and my house will be empty.
Since I live in Scotland there is the likelihood of frost. I have Johnson &
Starley warm air gas heating and a Janus water heater. What would be the
best way to protect the house from frost? Leave the heating on all the time
but turn the thermostat down and leave the pilot light on for the hot water?
What do other people do?


I would leave the heating on 24x7 at a setback temperature,
something like 10C. You could go even lower if you have no
pipework in unheated areas such as the attic. Don't know
what a Janus water heater is, but if it's an instant heater
with balanced flue, then that seems like a good idea to prevent
water in the heat exchanger freezing if theres a cold wind.
They usually have provision to drain the heat exchanger
pipework, but that might not be something you are happy to do.
Also turn off the water at the main stopcock so if it does
freeze and burst a pipe, the amount of water available to
cause damage is limited.


Maybe leave your loft hatch open.



Dave Gordon October 24th 07 05:14 PM

Going on holiday
 

"Andy Hall" wrote in message ...
On 2007-10-23 21:55:47 +0100, Owain said:

Andy Hall wrote:
"Janice" said:
Hi I am going on a fortnight's holiday next week and my house will be empty.
Since I live in Scotland there is the likelihood of frost.
In Scotland, I'd be more worried about breakins.


So you missed the "Best Place to Live in the UK" is Edinburgh, with a crime level one-fifth that of
the UK average?


Yes but there's different laws in that part of the country.




There is more to Scotland than a MacAldi shop in Craiglang.






What do other people do?
Live in different parts of the country to Scotland


There are quite a lot of English people in Edinburgh; I think we're the number 2 immigrants after
the Poles.



So what you're trying to tell me is that Hadrian's Wall didn't work any better than Offa's
Dyke........


Oh for goodness sake, the lady wanted advice for when she goes on holiday, not a larruping on
immigration.
And it only took 3 posts.



Dave Gordon October 24th 07 05:16 PM

Going on holiday
 

"Roger" wrote in message
k...
The message
from Anne Jackson contains these words:

Some might say that there are far too many English in Scotland...they're
pushing property prices up!


We have been hearing that sort of whinge from Wales for years but really
it is just the victim mentality giving voice. The reason why houses were
so cheap in Wales and, to a lesser extent, in Scotland was population
drift to England where the extra population pushed up house prices,
particularly in London and the Southeast where the population pressure
is greatest and development land scarcest.

--
Roger Chapman


And in any case who is selling these houses at inflated prices? If its such a problem don't rip off
the buyers by doubling the price.



Rick Hughes November 8th 07 08:34 PM

Going on holiday
 

"Janice" wrote in message
.uk...
Hi I am going on a fortnight's holiday next week and my house will be
empty. Since I live in Scotland there is the likelihood of frost. I have
Johnson & Starley warm air gas heating and a Janus water heater. What
would be the best way to protect the house from frost? Leave the heating
on all the time but turn the thermostat down and leave the pilot light on
for the hot water? What do other people do?

Thanks Jan


If you would to post the address, I could arrange for an extended family of
Eastern Europeans to move in and keep it warm for you



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