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Jim[_6_] September 24th 07 02:22 AM

Wet patches on walls.
 
I have a house (victorian terrace) that has several wet patches on the
walls downstairs (kitchen and through dining room)

These patches come and go, but are always in the same place.

1) In the kitchen around the edge of the tiled splashback, and under the
work surface.
2) On the chimney breast
3) On the wall next to the chimney breast (not wet but can seen a change in
colour on the walls that comes and goes)

The patches appear 2 metres or higher on the walls. I have previously
removed the plaster and replastered the area on the chimney breast (2), and
fitted an airbrick to the breast.

The wall next to the chimney breast backs onto the shared passage, therefore
the wall should be quite dry, and unlikey to be penetrating damp. I also
understand that it cannot be rising damp, and there is no dampness at floor
level, but higher than 1m.

The wall in the kitchen is similar not an outside wall, and I can see no
reason for moisture penetration.

The house is fully double glazed, so the walls may be the cold spots. Could
this be caused by condensation? particulary as it directly adjoins the
kitchen. What would be the recommended methods to resolve this? Would a
dehumidifier be useful in these circumstances. Any other suggestions?




George September 24th 07 06:48 AM

Wet patches on walls.
 

"Jim" wrote in message

The house is fully double glazed, so the walls may be the cold spots.

Could
this be caused by condensation? particulary as it directly adjoins the
kitchen. What would be the recommended methods to resolve this? Would a
dehumidifier be useful in these circumstances. Any other suggestions?




Are the wall/s adjoining walls or are they gable end walls?

When you say "come and go" have you noticed any particular instance of them
reappearing? ie they appear when it rains,they appear when your're cooking
or after?
Usually the problem can be narrowed down if you notice the conditions the
damp appears.
For instance a blocked chimney after a downfall some of the rain could be
getting down it and settling in/on the blockage then seep through the
brickwork,if you don't have a cowling on the chimney stack? then fit one,Im
not saying this is the likely cause but no one can give a definate answer to
the problem without actually seeing it when it occurs.



Jim[_6_] September 24th 07 09:42 AM

Wet patches on walls.
 
The walls are adjoining walls (as mentioned the one side backs onto the
passage and is therefore sheltered.
I havent yet found a pattern. There were damp patches whilst the house was
unoccupied, so it is not purely down to cooking etc. However having said
that,
Dampness does seem worse after cooking, but my feeling is that this area is
already damp, and so may be attracting any additonal humidity.

Are the wall/s adjoining walls or are they gable end walls?

When you say "come and go" have you noticed any particular instance of
them
reappearing? ie they appear when it rains,they appear when your're cooking
or after?
Usually the problem can be narrowed down if you notice the conditions the
damp appears.
For instance a blocked chimney after a downfall some of the rain could be
getting down it and settling in/on the blockage then seep through the
brickwork,if you don't have a cowling on the chimney stack? then fit
one,Im
not saying this is the likely cause but no one can give a definate answer
to
the problem without actually seeing it when it occurs.




The Natural Philosopher September 24th 07 09:56 AM

Wet patches on walls.
 
Jim wrote:
The walls are adjoining walls (as mentioned the one side backs onto the
passage and is therefore sheltered.
I havent yet found a pattern. There were damp patches whilst the house was
unoccupied, so it is not purely down to cooking etc. However having said
that,
Dampness does seem worse after cooking, but my feeling is that this area is
already damp, and so may be attracting any additonal humidity.

Are the wall/s adjoining walls or are they gable end walls?
When you say "come and go" have you noticed any particular instance of
them
reappearing? ie they appear when it rains,they appear when your're cooking
or after?
Usually the problem can be narrowed down if you notice the conditions the
damp appears.
For instance a blocked chimney after a downfall some of the rain could be
getting down it and settling in/on the blockage then seep through the
brickwork,if you don't have a cowling on the chimney stack? then fit
one,Im
not saying this is the likely cause but no one can give a definate answer
to
the problem without actually seeing it when it occurs.




[email protected] September 24th 07 12:39 PM

Wet patches on walls.
 
On 24 Sep, 02:22, "Jim" wrote:
I have a house (victorian terrace) that has several wet patches on the
walls downstairs (kitchen and through dining room)

These patches come and go, but are always in the same place.

1) In the kitchen around the edge of the tiled splashback, and under the
work surface.
2) On the chimney breast
3) On the wall next to the chimney breast (not wet but can seen a change in
colour on the walls that comes and goes)

The patches appear 2 metres or higher on the walls. I have previously
removed the plaster and replastered the area on the chimney breast (2), and
fitted an airbrick to the breast.

The wall next to the chimney breast backs onto the shared passage, therefore
the wall should be quite dry, and unlikey to be penetrating damp. I also
understand that it cannot be rising damp, and there is no dampness at floor
level, but higher than 1m.

The wall in the kitchen is similar not an outside wall, and I can see no
reason for moisture penetration.

The house is fully double glazed, so the walls may be the cold spots. Could
this be caused by condensation? particulary as it directly adjoins the
kitchen. What would be the recommended methods to resolve this? Would a
dehumidifier be useful in these circumstances. Any other suggestions?


Answer ?
In a word -hygroscopicity

Hygroscopic salts are contaminating the plaster and it should be
removed and replaced with a non-gypsum preferably sand cement with
salt retardant additive and SBR and a water proofer.
If it is not TOO bad and you want to be a cheapskate you could try
painting it with a metallic OS paint but I dont recommend it

Cause on the chimney is SO2 from fossil fuels going to sulphur
trioxide to sulphous acid and then sulphates

elsewhere dont know but could be water entry over the years bringing
in salts

Could be defective sand in original mix!

IF condensation on Cold spots that would only be a contributory issue
as hygroscopic salts reduce themal insulation

Would not dehumidify
suggest getting rid of water in the first place as better
Chris



Pete C September 24th 07 01:04 PM

Wet patches on walls.
 
On Sep 24, 2:22 am, "Jim" wrote:
The patches appear 2 metres or higher on the walls. I have previously
removed the plaster and replastered the area on the chimney breast (2), and
fitted an airbrick to the breast.

Hi,

Is the fireplace blocked off, and is the airbrick on the inside or
outside?

cheers,
Pete.


[email protected] September 24th 07 01:26 PM

Wet patches on walls.
 
Jim wrote:

I have a house (victorian terrace) that has several wet patches on the
walls downstairs (kitchen and through dining room)

These patches come and go, but are always in the same place.

1) In the kitchen around the edge of the tiled splashback, and under the
work surface.
2) On the chimney breast
3) On the wall next to the chimney breast (not wet but can seen a change in
colour on the walls that comes and goes)

The patches appear 2 metres or higher on the walls. I have previously
removed the plaster and replastered the area on the chimney breast (2), and
fitted an airbrick to the breast.

The wall next to the chimney breast backs onto the shared passage, therefore
the wall should be quite dry, and unlikey to be penetrating damp. I also
understand that it cannot be rising damp, and there is no dampness at floor
level, but higher than 1m.

The wall in the kitchen is similar not an outside wall, and I can see no
reason for moisture penetration.

The house is fully double glazed, so the walls may be the cold spots. Could
this be caused by condensation? particulary as it directly adjoins the
kitchen. What would be the recommended methods to resolve this? Would a
dehumidifier be useful in these circumstances. Any other suggestions?


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