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Dave Farrell September 22nd 03 10:15 PM

Pneumatic push button cistern?
 
Hi,

Anybody know where to get one of these new push button cisterns from?

I've seen plenty of the 'flapper valve' type, but the one I'm talking
about here has the flush button connected to the syphon by a length of
clear plastic pipe. Ideal for concealed cisterns.

Problem is, I can't recall where I've seen them.

Thanks

Dave

Rod Hewitt September 22nd 03 10:29 PM

Pneumatic push button cistern?
 
(Dave Farrell) wrote in
om:

Hi,

Anybody know where to get one of these new push button cisterns from?

I've seen plenty of the 'flapper valve' type, but the one I'm talking
about here has the flush button connected to the syphon by a length of
clear plastic pipe. Ideal for concealed cisterns.

Problem is, I can't recall where I've seen them.

Thanks

Dave


Dave,

The Multikwik (e.g. MFC1V) flush valve comes with a modest length
'remote' really only suited to use in place of a standard lever.
However, another model with a *very* similar number has an extra long
'cable' - 800 mm IIRC - for just the purpose you require. And it is a
pretty good device. I have no idea if the air pipes are any better or
worse - or for that matter whether they support two flush volumes (as
does the Multikwik) and might be relevant if you are metered.

Rod

Antony Jones September 23rd 03 12:11 PM

Pneumatic push button cistern?
 
Rod Hewitt wrote in message 62.115...
(Dave Farrell) wrote in
om:

Hi,

Anybody know where to get one of these new push button cisterns from?

I've seen plenty of the 'flapper valve' type, but the one I'm talking
about here has the flush button connected to the syphon by a length of
clear plastic pipe. Ideal for concealed cisterns.

Problem is, I can't recall where I've seen them.

Thanks

Dave


Dave,

The Multikwik (e.g. MFC1V) flush valve comes with a modest length
'remote' really only suited to use in place of a standard lever.
However, another model with a *very* similar number has an extra long
'cable' - 800 mm IIRC - for just the purpose you require. And it is a
pretty good device. I have no idea if the air pipes are any better or
worse - or for that matter whether they support two flush volumes (as
does the Multikwik) and might be relevant if you are metered.

Rod


Dave,
I've got a Thomas Dudley Vantage
(
http://www.thomasdudley.co.uk/cister...roduct=Vantage) which is a
complete concealed cistern and pneumatic push button operated flush
valve (not syphon). I bought it from my local branch of PlumbCenter
(www.plumbcenter.co.uk) for about 80 quid IIRC. The MultiKwik is cable
operated (if that makes any difference).

-Antony

Rod Hewitt September 23rd 03 08:55 PM

Pneumatic push button cistern?
 

Sorry folks, I meant the MFV1C - not that different but my fingers were
twitching last night.

Rod


Simon Stroud September 23rd 03 09:21 PM

Pneumatic push button cistern?
 
Antony Jones wrote in message
om...
Rod Hewitt wrote in message

62.115...
(Dave Farrell) wrote in
om:

Hi,

Anybody know where to get one of these new push button cisterns from?

I've seen plenty of the 'flapper valve' type, but the one I'm talking
about here has the flush button connected to the syphon by a length of
clear plastic pipe. Ideal for concealed cisterns.

Problem is, I can't recall where I've seen them.

Thanks

Dave


Dave,

The Multikwik (e.g. MFC1V) flush valve comes with a modest length
'remote' really only suited to use in place of a standard lever.
However, another model with a *very* similar number has an extra long
'cable' - 800 mm IIRC - for just the purpose you require. And it is a
pretty good device. I have no idea if the air pipes are any better or
worse - or for that matter whether they support two flush volumes (as
does the Multikwik) and might be relevant if you are metered.

Rod


Dave,
I've got a Thomas Dudley Vantage
(
http://www.thomasdudley.co.uk/cister...roduct=Vantage) which is a
complete concealed cistern and pneumatic push button operated flush
valve (not syphon). I bought it from my local branch of PlumbCenter
(www.plumbcenter.co.uk) for about 80 quid IIRC. The MultiKwik is cable
operated (if that makes any difference).

-Antony


I too have recently fitted a Thomas Dudley concealed cistern.

I think mine was the "Phantom" and it included a pneumatically operated
remote button valve.

I got mine from my local Jewsons, and fitted it inside a Shades fitted
bathroom WC unit. It fitted just fine and the valve is a pleasure to use.
Only one minor complaint - I really fancied a "dual flush" option but this
didn't seem to be available.

Actually there was one further issue - the button is VERY big. This is
probably because it incorporates the little air "pump". For some
flat-fronted furniture, or for concealed fixing behind a tiled wall or
something this wouldn't be an issue. However on the Shades units that SWMBO
specified, the front panels have a routed "panel" design, and it was only
just possible to accommodate the button on a flat area.

Regards,

Simon.



Bob Eager September 23rd 03 09:33 PM

Pneumatic push button cistern?
 
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:21:32 UTC, "Simon Stroud"
wrote:

Actually there was one further issue - the button is VERY big. This is
probably because it incorporates the little air "pump". For some
flat-fronted furniture, or for concealed fixing behind a tiled wall or
something this wouldn't be an issue. However on the Shades units that SWMBO
specified, the front panels have a routed "panel" design, and it was only
just possible to accommodate the button on a flat area.


Anyone used those 'wave your hand near' ones you need in some public
toilets?

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Colin Wilson September 24th 03 12:48 AM

Pneumatic push button cistern?
 
Anyone used those 'wave your hand near' ones you need in some public
toilets?


Ever been to Florida ? - they seem to like siting them close to your
backside and they flush randomly if you take too long :-}

Scares the crap out of you the first time it happens, but at least you`re
sat in the right place :-}

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John Stumbles September 24th 03 11:19 AM

Pneumatic push button cistern?
 

"Colin Wilson" wrote in message
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Anyone used those 'wave your hand near' ones you need in some public
toilets?


Ever been to Florida ? - they seem to like siting them close to your
backside and they flush randomly if you take too long :-}

Scares the crap out of you the first time it happens, but at least you`re
sat in the right place :-}


What about the continental squat types? (Like a shower tray, with two
pedestals you stand on and a big hole where you make your deposit; for those
who've never had the pleasure to encounter such a beast.)

In France many years ago I came across one of these which had an automatic
flush (as on urinals). What's more when it flushed the water level came up
above the pedestals.

You had to be quick .... ;-)


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PoP September 24th 03 01:15 PM

Pneumatic push button cistern?
 
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:19:37 +0100, "John Stumbles"
] wrote:

What about the continental squat types? (Like a shower tray, with two
pedestals you stand on and a big hole where you make your deposit; for those
who've never had the pleasure to encounter such a beast.)


The only one I came across was in Grenoble in France over 20 years
ago. It was a shared loo, men and women (though not together
thankfully).

Rather disgusting arrangement I felt.

The other type I wasn't too keen on was in California, modern office
and very clean. But out there they like the water in the toilet bowl
to fill up almost to the brim and cover the entire bowl, not like over
here where you get just a small amount of water covering the bend.

Having a crap in one of these nearly-full loos is an interesting
experience if you deliver floaters (depends what you've had the night
before etc). There's something a bit disconcerting about your waste
products bobbing about like submarines.

PoP


geoff September 25th 03 01:08 AM

Pneumatic push button cistern?
 
In message , John
Stumbles ] writes

"Colin Wilson" wrote in message
et...
Anyone used those 'wave your hand near' ones you need in some public
toilets?


Ever been to Florida ? - they seem to like siting them close to your
backside and they flush randomly if you take too long :-}

Scares the crap out of you the first time it happens, but at least you`re
sat in the right place :-}


What about the continental squat types? (Like a shower tray, with two
pedestals you stand on and a big hole where you make your deposit; for those
who've never had the pleasure to encounter such a beast.)

In France many years ago I came across one of these which had an automatic
flush (as on urinals). What's more when it flushed the water level came up
above the pedestals.


Hardly "continental", I've never seen them in Germany, Belgium, Holland,
Austria etc.,

Much more hygienic though - no contact and washing your arse with water
is much cleaner than scraping it with a bit of yesterdays Sun
--
geoff

geoff September 25th 03 01:10 AM

Pneumatic push button cistern?
 
In message , PoP
writes
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:19:37 +0100, "John Stumbles"
] wrote:

What about the continental squat types? (Like a shower tray, with two
pedestals you stand on and a big hole where you make your deposit; for those
who've never had the pleasure to encounter such a beast.)


The only one I came across was in Grenoble in France over 20 years
ago. It was a shared loo, men and women (though not together
thankfully).

Rather disgusting arrangement I felt.

The other type I wasn't too keen on was in California, modern office
and very clean. But out there they like the water in the toilet bowl
to fill up almost to the brim and cover the entire bowl, not like over
here where you get just a small amount of water covering the bend.

Having a crap in one of these nearly-full loos is an interesting
experience if you deliver floaters (depends what you've had the night
before etc). There's something a bit disconcerting about your waste
products bobbing about like submarines.

As opposed to your dump sitting smiling at you from a shelf awaiting
your flushing it away
--
geoff

John September 25th 03 07:31 AM

Pneumatic push button cistern?
 
.................and in the States, privacy in the WCs is minimal. Short
doors - or big gaps around them.

--


Regards

John


"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , PoP
writes
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:19:37 +0100, "John Stumbles"
] wrote:

What about the continental squat types? (Like a shower tray, with two
pedestals you stand on and a big hole where you make your deposit; for

those
who've never had the pleasure to encounter such a beast.)


The only one I came across was in Grenoble in France over 20 years
ago. It was a shared loo, men and women (though not together
thankfully).

Rather disgusting arrangement I felt.

The other type I wasn't too keen on was in California, modern office
and very clean. But out there they like the water in the toilet bowl
to fill up almost to the brim and cover the entire bowl, not like over
here where you get just a small amount of water covering the bend.

Having a crap in one of these nearly-full loos is an interesting
experience if you deliver floaters (depends what you've had the night
before etc). There's something a bit disconcerting about your waste
products bobbing about like submarines.

As opposed to your dump sitting smiling at you from a shelf awaiting
your flushing it away
--
geoff



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PoP September 25th 03 12:44 PM

Pneumatic push button cistern?
 
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 07:31:26 +0100, "John"
john.plant90@NO-SPAMntlworldDOTcom wrote:

................and in the States, privacy in the WCs is minimal. Short
doors - or big gaps around them.


Very true. In fact limbo dancers would look for somewhere else to
practice their trade, it wouldn't be a challenge for them at all.

PoP


PoP September 25th 03 12:45 PM

Pneumatic push button cistern?
 
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 01:08:52 +0100, geoff wrote:

Much more hygienic though - no contact and washing your arse with water
is much cleaner than scraping it with a bit of yesterdays Sun


You are supposed to scrape off the residue? Hell, I've learnt
something else on this newsgroup ;)

PoP


IMM October 7th 03 11:13 AM

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"John" john.plant90@NO-SPAMntlworldDOTcom wrote in message
...

................and in the States, privacy in the WCs is minimal. Short
doors - or big gaps around them.


You see people looking through the gaps to see if their friends are in
there.


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