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So when's the next water shortage due?
It's been ****ing down for months and the worst floods in living memory.
What that tells me is that we're shortly due for hosepipe bans and water restrictions given that the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. The usual excuse is that rain doesn't help them much because it just runs away and doesn't actually get into the underground water table. Maybe if it rained underground more instead of above it? Still I'm not a meteorologist so what do I know? -- Dave Baker - Puma Race Engines |
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"Dave Baker" wrote in message ... It's been ****ing down for months and the worst floods in living memory. What that tells me is that we're shortly due for hosepipe bans and water restrictions given that the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. The usual excuse is that rain doesn't help them much because it just runs away and doesn't actually get into the underground water table. Maybe if it rained underground more instead of above it? Still I'm not a meteorologist so what do I know? -- Dave Baker - Puma Race Engines Yet 'they' tell us that even normal levels of rain can now lead to flooding as the ground is saturated ! It's a case of the 'authorities' having their cake and eating it (or rather having OUR cake and eating it) AWEM (Who for decades has been a conformist, but now is getting distinctly anarchist tendancies) |
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On 2007-08-21 19:06:02 +0100, "Andrew Mawson"
said: AWEM (Who for decades has been a conformist, but now is getting distinctly anarchist tendancies) Excellent. There's hope yet :-) |
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Andrew Mawson wrote:
(Who for decades has been a conformist, but now is getting distinctly anarchist tendancies) I've always been an anarchist, but contrary to the usual pattern, I seem to getting more so the older I get. -- djc |
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So when's the next water shortage due?
Dave Baker wrote:
It's been ****ing down for months and the worst floods in living memory. What that tells me is that we're shortly due for hosepipe bans and water restrictions given that the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. Quite a few years ago I worked as a rep for Karcher & we had a hosepipe ban in the south east, which caused a bit of a drop in sales. I was talking to one of the German guys about this. He said he knew Kent, it was bordered by the Thames estuary & the sea on three sides and had a river running diagonally through it. He couldn't understand how we could have a water shortage! -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message ... Dave Baker wrote: It's been ****ing down for months and the worst floods in living memory. What that tells me is that we're shortly due for hosepipe bans and water restrictions given that the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. Quite a few years ago I worked as a rep for Karcher & we had a hosepipe ban in the south east, which caused a bit of a drop in sales. I was talking to one of the German guys about this. He said he knew Kent, it was bordered by the Thames estuary & the sea on three sides and had a river running diagonally through it. He couldn't understand how we could have a water shortage! -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 .... ah... but that would be during the time that the Germans owned Thames Water no doubt G AWEM |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message ... Dave Baker wrote: It's been ****ing down for months and the worst floods in living memory. What that tells me is that we're shortly due for hosepipe bans and water restrictions given that the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. Quite a few years ago I worked as a rep for Karcher & we had a hosepipe ban in the south east, which caused a bit of a drop in sales. I was talking to one of the German guys about this. He said he knew Kent, it was bordered by the Thames estuary & the sea on three sides and had a river running diagonally through it. He couldn't understand how we could have a water shortage! It is anticipated that, if water use continues to grow at the current rate, the Ganges will run out of water before it reaches the sea within a few decades. The Thames would not even make a decent tributary to the Ganges. Colin Bignell |
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"nightjar .uk.com" nightjar@insert my surname here wrote in message ... "The Medway Handyman" wrote in message ... Dave Baker wrote: It's been ****ing down for months and the worst floods in living memory. What that tells me is that we're shortly due for hosepipe bans and water restrictions given that the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. Quite a few years ago I worked as a rep for Karcher & we had a hosepipe ban in the south east, which caused a bit of a drop in sales. I was talking to one of the German guys about this. He said he knew Kent, it was bordered by the Thames estuary & the sea on three sides and had a river running diagonally through it. He couldn't understand how we could have a water shortage! It is anticipated that, if water use continues to grow at the current rate, the Ganges will run out of water before it reaches the sea within a few decades. The Thames would not even make a decent tributary to the Ganges. Assuming the current rates of continental drift continue into the future it'll be several hundred million years before the Thames could ever become a tributary to the Ganges. However that's probably still not long enough for the water authorities in this country to get their act together. Humans will have mutated into 2 foot tall scaly reptilians with advanced ESP abilities but hosepipe bans will still be, like death and taxes, one of those invariables of life. -- Dave Baker - Puma Race Engines Today I are mainly listening to....Corrine Bailey Rae |
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On 21 Aug, 18:44, "Dave Baker" wrote:
It's been ****ing down for months and the worst floods in living memory. What that tells me is that we're shortly due for hosepipe bans and water restrictions given that the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. The usual excuse is that rain doesn't help them much because it just runs away and doesn't actually get into the underground water table. Maybe if it rained underground more instead of above it? Still I'm not a meteorologist so what do I know? -- Dave Baker - Puma Race Engines It's to do with farming practices, building on flood planes, the concreting of driveways, low soakaway installation, overcrowding etc. etc. It all means that the water does not get a chance to soak into the ground but is directed into storm drains etc. and then into rivers. Oh yes, and we also plant thirsty gardens, use power showers, wash leaves up with pressure washers, use pressure washers to wash cars, windows, decking, pavement, flush when it's only yellow etc. etc. Last year a program on reducing waste filmed a lady, who whilst cleaning the bathroom, always left the basin taps running because she liked the sound of running water! |
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So when's the next water shortage due?
"Dave Baker" wrote in message ... It's been ****ing down for months and the worst floods in living memory. What that tells me is that we're shortly due for hosepipe bans and water restrictions given that the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. The usual excuse is that rain doesn't help them much because it just runs away and doesn't actually get into the underground water table. Maybe if it rained underground more instead of above it? In the SE? Sooner rather than later as you lack storage for the water and have too many people. Still I'm not a meteorologist so what do I know? Not a lot by the sound of it. |
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dennis@home wrote:
"Dave Baker" wrote in message ... It's been ****ing down for months and the worst floods in living memory. What that tells me is that we're shortly due for hosepipe bans and water restrictions given that the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. The usual excuse is that rain doesn't help them much because it just runs away and doesn't actually get into the underground water table. Maybe if it rained underground more instead of above it? In the SE? Sooner rather than later as you lack storage for the water and have too many people. There is an extremely large reservoir located underground in SELondon. Driven over it many times and never knew it was there. Still I'm not a meteorologist so what do I know? Not a lot by the sound of it. |
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"Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... dennis@home wrote: "Dave Baker" wrote in message ... It's been ****ing down for months and the worst floods in living memory. What that tells me is that we're shortly due for hosepipe bans and water restrictions given that the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. The usual excuse is that rain doesn't help them much because it just runs away and doesn't actually get into the underground water table. Maybe if it rained underground more instead of above it? In the SE? Sooner rather than later as you lack storage for the water and have too many people. There is an extremely large reservoir located underground in SELondon. Driven over it many times and never knew it was there. Still I'm not a meteorologist so what do I know? Not a lot by the sound of it. There are several, mostly Victorian, reservoirs underground in SE London. Built when they had the confidence and style to do things properly. AWEM |
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"Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... dennis@home wrote: "Dave Baker" wrote in message ... It's been ****ing down for months and the worst floods in living memory. What that tells me is that we're shortly due for hosepipe bans and water restrictions given that the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. The usual excuse is that rain doesn't help them much because it just runs away and doesn't actually get into the underground water table. Maybe if it rained underground more instead of above it? In the SE? Sooner rather than later as you lack storage for the water and have too many people. There is an extremely large reservoir located underground in SELondon. Driven over it many times and never knew it was there. How many days worth of water? |
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dennis@home wrote:
"Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... dennis@home wrote: "Dave Baker" wrote in message ... It's been ****ing down for months and the worst floods in living memory. What that tells me is that we're shortly due for hosepipe bans and water restrictions given that the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. The usual excuse is that rain doesn't help them much because it just runs away and doesn't actually get into the underground water table. Maybe if it rained underground more instead of above it? In the SE? Sooner rather than later as you lack storage for the water and have too many people. There is an extremely large reservoir located underground in SELondon. Driven over it many times and never knew it was there. How many days worth of water? According to Thames Water... "Honor Oak Reservoir is Europe’s largest underground reservoir, beneath Peckham Golf Course. It holds enough water for 1 million people." i.e. quite a lot :-) |
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Andrew Mawson wrote:
"Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... dennis@home wrote: "Dave Baker" wrote in message ... It's been ****ing down for months and the worst floods in living memory. What that tells me is that we're shortly due for hosepipe bans and water restrictions given that the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. The usual excuse is that rain doesn't help them much because it just runs away and doesn't actually get into the underground water table. Maybe if it rained underground more instead of above it? In the SE? Sooner rather than later as you lack storage for the water and have too many people. There is an extremely large reservoir located underground in SELondon. Driven over it many times and never knew it was there. Still I'm not a meteorologist so what do I know? Not a lot by the sound of it. There are several, mostly Victorian, reservoirs underground in SE London. Built when they had the confidence and style to do things properly. AWEM The London ring main sounds like a pretty ambitious project |
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On 2007-08-23 12:27:39 +0100, Stuart Noble
said: dennis@home wrote: "Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... dennis@home wrote: "Dave Baker" wrote in message ... It's been ****ing down for months and the worst floods in living memory. What that tells me is that we're shortly due for hosepipe bans and water restrictions given that the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. The usual excuse is that rain doesn't help them much because it just runs away and doesn't actually get into the underground water table. Maybe if it rained underground more instead of above it? In the SE? Sooner rather than later as you lack storage for the water and have too many people. There is an extremely large reservoir located underground in SELondon. Driven over it many times and never knew it was there. How many days worth of water? According to Thames Water... "Honor Oak Reservoir is Europes largest underground reservoir, beneath Peckham Golf Course. It holds enough water for 1 million people." i.e. quite a lot :-) For how long though? Looks like Thames Water uses the same marcomms firm as Persil. |
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Stuart Noble wrote:
dennis@home wrote: "Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... dennis@home wrote: "Dave Baker" wrote in message ... It's been ****ing down for months and the worst floods in living memory. What that tells me is that we're shortly due for hosepipe bans and water restrictions given that the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. The usual excuse is that rain doesn't help them much because it just runs away and doesn't actually get into the underground water table. Maybe if it rained underground more instead of above it? In the SE? Sooner rather than later as you lack storage for the water and have too many people. There is an extremely large reservoir located underground in SELondon. Driven over it many times and never knew it was there. How many days worth of water? According to Thames Water... "Honor Oak Reservoir is Europe’s largest underground reservoir, beneath Peckham Golf Course. It holds enough water for 1 million people." i.e. quite a lot :-) For 1 million people to do *what*? make a cup of tea? |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:44:10 +0100 someone who may be "Dave Baker"
wrote this:- the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. In this country Scottish Water, a QANGO, does a reasonable job though a far from perfect one. In other parts of the UK (excluding perhaps Northern Ireland) I understand water supply is privatised. This was supposed to bring thrusting, forward-looking, enterprise to replace the tired old men of the public sector. No matter what the ownership, the problem the organisations concerned face is rising demand. More households, more appliances in these households, more gadgets (how many people wash cars with a bucket of water and cloth these days?). There is also great reluctance to building more reservoirs from the landscape lobby. The answer is to reduce demand, as well as reduce the amount of water ****ing out of the pipes (a particular problem in the London area I gather). Water saving shower heads and the like are one option which involve minimal adaption. Using rainwater for gardens and washing cars is little more complicated. Flushing toilets and washing clothes with rainwater requires more thought, but can be done. Then there is full grey water recycling and composting toilets. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:37:16 +0100, David Hansen
wrote: In other parts of the UK (excluding perhaps Northern Ireland) I understand water supply is privatised. Water supply around here has always been private, therefore in a sense it hasn't been 'privatised' :-) -- Frank Erskine Sunderland |
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Hello Stuart,
"Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... How many days worth of water? According to Thames Water... "Honor Oak Reservoir is Europe's largest underground reservoir, beneath Peckham Golf Course. It holds enough water for 1 million people." i.e. quite a lot :-) For how many days? Population of London now put at over 7 million. regards |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Stuart Noble wrote: dennis@home wrote: "Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... dennis@home wrote: "Dave Baker" wrote in message ... It's been ****ing down for months and the worst floods in living memory. What that tells me is that we're shortly due for hosepipe bans and water restrictions given that the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. The usual excuse is that rain doesn't help them much because it just runs away and doesn't actually get into the underground water table. Maybe if it rained underground more instead of above it? In the SE? Sooner rather than later as you lack storage for the water and have too many people. There is an extremely large reservoir located underground in SELondon. Driven over it many times and never knew it was there. How many days worth of water? According to Thames Water... "Honor Oak Reservoir is Europe’s largest underground reservoir, beneath Peckham Golf Course. It holds enough water for 1 million people." i.e. quite a lot :-) For 1 million people to do *what*? make a cup of tea? Don't get all technical. A million is such a nice comforting figure :-) |
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Hello David,
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:44:10 +0100 someone who may be "Dave Baker" wrote this:- the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. In this country Scottish Water, a QANGO, does a reasonable job though a far from perfect one. In other parts of the UK (excluding perhaps Northern Ireland) I understand water supply is privatised. This was supposed to bring thrusting, forward-looking, enterprise to replace the tired old men of the public sector. No matter what the ownership, the problem the organisations concerned face is rising demand. Unless it has changed in recent years, one of the major problems was lack of maintenance of the feeding channels into resevoirs. I can remember watching a local news item in Yorkshire where a retired or laid-off maintenance chap showed a feeding channel running off a hill to a resevoir. It was about a foot wide. He was asked what was wrong with that and replied that the concrete channel was actually six feet wide but had become filled with vegetation. It had been his job to keep it clear. |
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Hello Stuart, "Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... How many days worth of water? According to Thames Water... "Honor Oak Reservoir is Europe's largest underground reservoir, beneath Peckham Golf Course. It holds enough water for 1 million people." i.e. quite a lot :-) For how many days? Population of London now put at over 7 million. regards What about, "for a considerable period of time"? |
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On 2007-08-23 12:37:16 +0100, David Hansen
said: On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:44:10 +0100 someone who may be "Dave Baker" wrote this:- the water authorities in this country seem to be totally unable to provide for uninterrupted supplies of the stuff in one of the wettest countries on earth. In this country Scottish Water, a QANGO, does a reasonable job though a far from perfect one. In other parts of the UK (excluding perhaps Northern Ireland) I understand water supply is privatised. This was supposed to bring thrusting, forward-looking, enterprise to replace the tired old men of the public sector. No matter what the ownership, the problem the organisations concerned face is rising demand. The problem is inadequate planning and provisioning. This is not a demand issue. More households, more appliances in these households, more gadgets (how many people wash cars with a bucket of water and cloth these days?). There is also great reluctance to building more reservoirs from the landscape lobby. That's OK as long as it's in parts of the country such as Scotland where there is plenty of space and it blends in anyway. The answer is to reduce demand, No it isn't. That's the same silly argument as energy saving. Completely unnecessary. as well as reduce the amount of water ****ing out of the pipes (a particular problem in the London area I gather). That should be done, and done by means of repair, not by reduction in pressure. Water saving shower heads and the like are one option which involve minimal adaption. These are pointless. A good shower involves the delivery of a good supply of water, not a needle jet tiddly electric-like thing. Using rainwater for gardens and washing cars is little more complicated. Not really. It's entirely reasonable to water vegetables and fruits at particular times. Flushing toilets and washing clothes with rainwater requires more thought, but can be done. Then there is full grey water recycling and composting toilets. These are largely nonsense. It may be just about acceptable to flush toilets with rain water provided that it could be suitably filtered and cleaned up. It certainly isn't for clothes unless it can be properly cleaned and purified. It is more sensible to do this on an industrial scale. |
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On 2007-08-23 12:46:56 +0100, Frank Erskine
said: On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:37:16 +0100, David Hansen wrote: In other parts of the UK (excluding perhaps Northern Ireland) I understand water supply is privatised. Water supply around here has always been private, therefore in a sense it hasn't been 'privatised' :-) Plus you've got God supplying plenty of it horizontally. |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:26:08 +0100 someone who may be Andy Hall
wrote this:- The problem is inadequate planning and provisioning. This is not a demand issue. Predict and provide. Very 1960s, but engineering has moved on a lot since then. There is also great reluctance to building more reservoirs from the landscape lobby. That's OK as long as it's in parts of the country such as Scotland where there is plenty of space and it blends in anyway. In this country, Scotland, the landscape lobby are very strong. Together with certain sections of the civil service they stopped hydro-electric schemes in favour of Longannet (I never have quite understood why the landscape lobby didn't object as strongly to Longannet). Perhaps that is because it is in a part of the country they are not so concerned about. Water saving shower heads and the like are one option which involve minimal adaption. These are pointless. A good shower involves the delivery of a good supply of water, not a needle jet tiddly electric-like thing. That is only one form of water saving shower head. There are others, such as shower heads that only output water when squeezed. Using rainwater for gardens and washing cars is little more complicated. Not really. It's entirely reasonable to water vegetables and fruits at particular times. It is a little more complicated in that one must arrange storage, connect this to the downpipe and deal with the overflow. Flushing toilets and washing clothes with rainwater requires more thought, but can be done. Then there is full grey water recycling and composting toilets. These are largely nonsense. Excellent. It may be just about acceptable to flush toilets with rain water provided that it could be suitably filtered and cleaned up. It certainly isn't for clothes unless it can be properly cleaned and purified. All this can be done fairly easily. It is more sensible to do this on an industrial scale. The largest or second largest consumption of electricity in Scotland is by Scottish Water. Thus for several reasons it makes sense to do one's bit to reduce this. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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On 2007-08-23 15:34:42 +0100, David Hansen
said: On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:26:08 +0100 someone who may be Andy Hall wrote this:- The problem is inadequate planning and provisioning. This is not a demand issue. Predict and provide. Very 1960s, but engineering has moved on a lot since then. Which means that there is even less excuse. There is also great reluctance to building more reservoirs from the landscape lobby. That's OK as long as it's in parts of the country such as Scotland where there is plenty of space and it blends in anyway. In this country, Scotland, the landscape lobby are very strong. That's good to hear, but where needs must... Together with certain sections of the civil service they stopped hydro-electric schemes in favour of Longannet (I never have quite understood why the landscape lobby didn't object as strongly to Longannet). Perhaps that is because it is in a part of the country they are not so concerned about. One could understand it even more so had it been on the Clyde. Water saving shower heads and the like are one option which involve minimal adaption. These are pointless. A good shower involves the delivery of a good supply of water, not a needle jet tiddly electric-like thing. That is only one form of water saving shower head. There are others, such as shower heads that only output water when squeezed. Even less point in those. Using rainwater for gardens and washing cars is little more complicated. Not really. It's entirely reasonable to water vegetables and fruits at particular times. It is a little more complicated in that one must arrange storage, connect this to the downpipe and deal with the overflow. Much easier to use the draught version that the locally sourced. Flushing toilets and washing clothes with rainwater requires more thought, but can be done. Then there is full grey water recycling and composting toilets. These are largely nonsense. Excellent. It may be just about acceptable to flush toilets with rain water provided that it could be suitably filtered and cleaned up. It certainly isn't for clothes unless it can be properly cleaned and purified. All this can be done fairly easily. So how would a treatment plant with full filtering and chemical treatment for bacterial removal be implemented at lower cost to the householder than the current buy price for piped water? It is more sensible to do this on an industrial scale. The largest or second largest consumption of electricity in Scotland is by Scottish Water. Thus for several reasons it makes sense to do one's bit to reduce this. This is where it becomes even more nonsense. As soon as the phrase "doing one's bit" is mentioned, it almost always means that the thing itself is inconsequential as it is in this case. There are three very obvious aspects to your example: - The demand for water is increasing. Solution is to provide more infrastructure and supply, not to attempt to buck the behaviour of the market and to attempt to reduce consumption. - If that entails the use of more electricity, then provide more electricity. Scotland is more fortunate than other parts of the country in having a certain amount of hydroelectric generation. It also has plenty of suitable sites for implementation of nuclear generation to make up the rest of the requirement and more. Issue solved without depriving people of what they want to buy. |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
... It may be just about acceptable to flush toilets with rain water provided that it could be suitably filtered and cleaned up. It certainly isn't for clothes unless it can be properly cleaned and purified. All this can be done fairly easily. So how would a treatment plant with full filtering and chemical treatment for bacterial removal be implemented at lower cost to the householder than the current buy price for piped water? Does water for flushing toilets require all that - "suitably filtered and cleaned up"? Is rainwater really that mucky? (and if so, why?) clive |
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On 2007-08-23 17:44:37 +0100, "Clive George" said:
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... It may be just about acceptable to flush toilets with rain water provided that it could be suitably filtered and cleaned up. It certainly isn't for clothes unless it can be properly cleaned and purified. All this can be done fairly easily. So how would a treatment plant with full filtering and chemical treatment for bacterial removal be implemented at lower cost to the householder than the current buy price for piped water? Does water for flushing toilets require all that - "suitably filtered and cleaned up"? Is rainwater really that mucky? (and if so, why?) clive I was actually referring mainly to clothes washing where clean water should be used. For toilets, if the water is not sufficiently purified, contains pollutants and stains the sanitaryware such that extra cleaning with chemicals is required, the purpose is somewhat defeated. |
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On Aug 23, 8:51 pm, wrote:
On 23 Aug, Stuart Noble wrote: "Honor Oak Reservoir is Europe's largest underground reservoir, beneath Peckham Golf Course. It holds enough water for 1 million people." i.e. quite a lot :-) For 1 million people for how long? 1 hour? a day? 6 months? 10 years? Reservoirs are designed for different uses. Kielder, for example is intended for storage for several years, It was planned and built to supply the industry and housing that never materialised due to a veriaty of reasons. It was never intended for long term storage. That's just a convenient outcome and spin to justify a huge white elephant. MBQ |
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wrote in message ... On 23 Aug, Stuart Noble wrote: "Honor Oak Reservoir is Europe's largest underground reservoir, beneath Peckham Golf Course. It holds enough water for 1 million people." i.e. quite a lot :-) For 1 million people for how long? 1 hour? a day? 6 months? 10 years? Long enough for 1 million people to moisten a stamp on the letter to their water authority complaining about the hosepipe bans perhaps? -- Dave Baker - Puma Race Engines Today I are mainly listening to....Corrine Bailey Rae |
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On 21 Aug, 22:38, djc wrote:
Andrew Mawson wrote: (Who for decades has been a conformist, but now is getting distinctly anarchist tendancies) I've always been an anarchist, but contrary to the usual pattern, I seem to getting more so the older I get. "They say that get more right wing as you get older, but I recon that's just a rumour spread by dirty jews!" |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Stuart Noble saying something like: The London ring main sounds like a pretty ambitious project Jeez, think of the RCD on that. -- Dave |
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Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Stuart Noble saying something like: The London ring main sounds like a pretty ambitious project Jeez, think of the RCD on that. Stick it in Essex somewhere |
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Stuart Noble wrote:
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Stuart Noble saying something like: The London ring main sounds like a pretty ambitious project Jeez, think of the RCD on that. Stick it in Essex somewhere Resident chav dectector |
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