OK...

First impressions, fairly heavy but well balanced. The 4m rubber cable
is made by the 'Wuxi Wire Factory' no less

The blade clamp and mechanism has virtually no play at all, though the
blade support roller has some side to side movement.

Comes with 3 blades, a coarse wavy set wood blade, a medium taper
ground wood blade and a fine wavy set HSS metal blade. The box states
the blades are Swiss made, but somehow I doubt the jigsaw is

Tried it out with the medium wood blade on ply with the cutting angle
at 90 deg, and found it cut a few degrees off vertical. Easily sorted,
just moved the shoe foward and tried a few cuts adjusting until it was
bang on.

Also found when cutting close to an edge the plastic shoe flexes in
the middle which can make the cut wander, so took it off. Underneath
there is a plated steel plate screwed to the ally base, so at least
the steel doesn't mark wood the way ally would.

Next tried some test cuts on ply using a guide. If run at a fairly
high speed or allowed to cut more slowly without pushing it hard, it
does a *perfect* 90 deg cut with no wandering at all. ABSOLUTELY
BLOODY MARVELLOUS!!!

That said, if pushed too hard on a slower speed or with the wavy set
blade, it does tend to wander off vertical but not terminally so.

Tried a few cuts on a 2x2, much the same as long as the jigsaw isn't
pushed to one side while making the cut.

So in in summary, not quite as good as a £100 jigsaw, but unbeatable
for the money, especially as it has a 3 yr guarantee.

cheers,
Pete.

"Pete C" wrote in message
oups.com...

OK...

First impressions, fairly heavy but well balanced. The 4m rubber cable
is made by the 'Wuxi Wire Factory' no less

The blade clamp and mechanism has virtually no play at all, though the
blade support roller has some side to side movement.

Comes with 3 blades, a coarse wavy set wood blade, a medium taper
ground wood blade and a fine wavy set HSS metal blade. The box states
the blades are Swiss made, but somehow I doubt the jigsaw is

Tried it out with the medium wood blade on ply with the cutting angle
at 90 deg, and found it cut a few degrees off vertical. Easily sorted,
just moved the shoe foward and tried a few cuts adjusting until it was
bang on.

Also found when cutting close to an edge the plastic shoe flexes in
the middle which can make the cut wander, so took it off. Underneath
there is a plated steel plate screwed to the ally base, so at least
the steel doesn't mark wood the way ally would.

Next tried some test cuts on ply using a guide. If run at a fairly
high speed or allowed to cut more slowly without pushing it hard, it
does a *perfect* 90 deg cut with no wandering at all. ABSOLUTELY
BLOODY MARVELLOUS!!!

That said, if pushed too hard on a slower speed or with the wavy set
blade, it does tend to wander off vertical but not terminally so.

Tried a few cuts on a 2x2, much the same as long as the jigsaw isn't
pushed to one side while making the cut.

So in in summary, not quite as good as a £100 jigsaw, but unbeatable
for the money, especially as it has a 3 yr guarantee.

cheers,
Pete.


Thx impressed. I think the tool is Swiss made according to the web site.

Pete C wrote:
OK...

First impressions, fairly heavy but well balanced. The 4m rubber cable
is made by the 'Wuxi Wire Factory' no less

The blade clamp and mechanism has virtually no play at all, though the
blade support roller has some side to side movement.

I think they need that to avoid binding the blade under sideways pressure.

Comes with 3 blades, a coarse wavy set wood blade, a medium taper
ground wood blade and a fine wavy set HSS metal blade. The box states
the blades are Swiss made, but somehow I doubt the jigsaw is

Tried it out with the medium wood blade on ply with the cutting angle
at 90 deg, and found it cut a few degrees off vertical. Easily sorted,
just moved the shoe foward and tried a few cuts adjusting until it was
bang on.

Also found when cutting close to an edge the plastic shoe flexes in
the middle which can make the cut wander, so took it off. Underneath
there is a plated steel plate screwed to the ally base, so at least
the steel doesn't mark wood the way ally would.

Next tried some test cuts on ply using a guide. If run at a fairly
high speed or allowed to cut more slowly without pushing it hard, it
does a *perfect* 90 deg cut with no wandering at all. ABSOLUTELY
BLOODY MARVELLOUS!!!

That said, if pushed too hard on a slower speed or with the wavy set
blade, it does tend to wander off vertical but not terminally so.

Tried a few cuts on a 2x2, much the same as long as the jigsaw isn't
pushed to one side while making the cut.

A jigsaw's potential for wandering is really determined by the
flexibility of the blade, the power of the motor, and the IQ of the user.
This one sounds like a big improvement over the cheap B&D jobs of 20
years ago. Whether it would survive a sink cutout on a beech worktop
when the resin starts bubbling is another matter but, as ever, horse/course.

So in in summary, not quite as good as a £100 jigsaw, but unbeatable
for the money, especially as it has a 3 yr guarantee.

cheers,
Pete.

"Pete C" wrote in message
oups.com...

OK...

First impressions, fairly heavy but well balanced. The 4m rubber cable
is made by the 'Wuxi Wire Factory' no less

The blade clamp and mechanism has virtually no play at all, though the
blade support roller has some side to side movement.

Comes with 3 blades, a coarse wavy set wood blade, a medium taper
ground wood blade and a fine wavy set HSS metal blade. The box states
the blades are Swiss made, but somehow I doubt the jigsaw is

Tried it out with the medium wood blade on ply with the cutting angle
at 90 deg, and found it cut a few degrees off vertical. Easily sorted,
just moved the shoe foward and tried a few cuts adjusting until it was
bang on.

Also found when cutting close to an edge the plastic shoe flexes in
the middle which can make the cut wander, so took it off. Underneath
there is a plated steel plate screwed to the ally base, so at least
the steel doesn't mark wood the way ally would.

Next tried some test cuts on ply using a guide. If run at a fairly
high speed or allowed to cut more slowly without pushing it hard, it
does a *perfect* 90 deg cut with no wandering at all. ABSOLUTELY
BLOODY MARVELLOUS!!!

That said, if pushed too hard on a slower speed or with the wavy set
blade, it does tend to wander off vertical but not terminally so.

Tried a few cuts on a 2x2, much the same as long as the jigsaw isn't
pushed to one side while making the cut.

So in in summary, not quite as good as a £100 jigsaw, but unbeatable
for the money, especially as it has a 3 yr guarantee.

cheers,
Pete.

I just got this

http://www.lidl.co.uk/uk/home.nsf/pa....Sabre_Saw.ar7

And cannot for the life of me see any difference when altering the speed
control.. I got it today and returned it for another as the speed dial was
faulty. Now this one is the same. i cannot feel or hear any difference in
the 500-2600 speed.

Anyone else got one of these.

On Jul 14, 12:53 am, "Millan" wrote:
Stupid's stupid newsreader setting error cleared

I just got this

http://www.lidl.co.uk/uk/home.nsf/pa....Sabre_Saw.ar7

And cannot for the life of me see any difference when altering the speed
control.. I got it today and returned it for another as the speed dial was
faulty. Now this one is the same. i cannot feel or hear any difference in
the 500-2600 speed.

Anyone else got one of these.

No. But why would you want to run a low powered machine at lower than
optimum speed?

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 14, 12:53 am, "Millan" wrote:
Stupid's stupid newsreader setting error cleared

I just got this

http://www.lidl.co.uk/uk/home.nsf/pa....Sabre_Saw.ar7

And cannot for the life of me see any difference when altering the speed
control.. I got it today and returned it for another as the speed dial
was
faulty. Now this one is the same. i cannot feel or hear any difference in
the 500-2600 speed.

Anyone else got one of these.

No. But why would you want to run a low powered machine at lower than
optimum speed?


That isnt the point. A function that is on it doesnt work, therefore its
faulty.

"Millan" wrote in message
...

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 14, 12:53 am, "Millan" wrote:
Stupid's stupid newsreader setting error cleared

I just got this

http://www.lidl.co.uk/uk/home.nsf/pa....Sabre_Saw.ar7

And cannot for the life of me see any difference when altering the
speed
control.. I got it today and returned it for another as the speed dial
was
faulty. Now this one is the same. i cannot feel or hear any difference
in
the 500-2600 speed.

Anyone else got one of these.

No. But why would you want to run a low powered machine at lower than
optimum speed?


That isnt the point. A function that is on it doesnt work, therefore its
faulty.



I presume you did give it time to run up to speed?

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 14, 12:53 am, "Millan" wrote:
Stupid's stupid newsreader setting error cleared

I just got this

http://www.lidl.co.uk/uk/home.nsf/pa....Sabre_Saw.ar7

And cannot for the life of me see any difference when altering the speed
control.. I got it today and returned it for another as the speed dial
was
faulty. Now this one is the same. i cannot feel or hear any difference
in
the 500-2600 speed.

Anyone else got one of these.

No. But why would you want to run a low powered machine at lower than
optimum speed?


In this case,Plastic

In article . com,
Weatherlawyer wrote:
No. But why would you want to run a low powered machine at lower than
optimum speed?

The optimum speed would depend on the material. If cutting plastic a
'wood' speed might melt it.

--
*Failure is not an option. It's bundled with your software.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"George" wrote in message
. uk...

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 14, 12:53 am, "Millan" wrote:
Stupid's stupid newsreader setting error cleared

I just got this

http://www.lidl.co.uk/uk/home.nsf/pa....Sabre_Saw.ar7

And cannot for the life of me see any difference when altering the
speed
control.. I got it today and returned it for another as the speed dial
was
faulty. Now this one is the same. i cannot feel or hear any difference
in
the 500-2600 speed.

Anyone else got one of these.

No. But why would you want to run a low powered machine at lower than
optimum speed?


In this case,Plastic



Hi george

yes. the chap at lidl said they had quite a few returned for this reason.
Its hard to explain but it feels like the knob inside isnt conected to
anything so the variable speed isnt working. its very slack and turns itself
when the motor is running. Its going back. thanks george

"Millan" wrote in message
...

"George" wrote in message
. uk...

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 14, 12:53 am, "Millan" wrote:
Stupid's stupid newsreader setting error cleared

I just got this

http://www.lidl.co.uk/uk/home.nsf/pa....Sabre_Saw.ar7

And cannot for the life of me see any difference when altering the
speed
control.. I got it today and returned it for another as the speed
dial
was
faulty. Now this one is the same. i cannot feel or hear any
difference
in
the 500-2600 speed.

Anyone else got one of these.

No. But why would you want to run a low powered machine at lower than
optimum speed?


In this case,Plastic



Hi george

yes. the chap at lidl said they had quite a few returned for this reason.
Its hard to explain but it feels like the knob inside isnt conected to
anything so the variable speed isnt working. its very slack and turns
itself
when the motor is running. Its going back. thanks george



Aldi tomorrow Sunday have a cheaper version
http://www.aldi-stores.co.uk/sunday_...l_buys_pid_560
17.html

"George" wrote in message
news

"Millan" wrote in message
...

snip
yes. the chap at lidl said they had quite a few returned for this
reason.
Its hard to explain but it feels like the knob inside isnt conected
to
anything so the variable speed isnt working. its very slack and
turns
itself
when the motor is running. Its going back. thanks george

Aldi tomorrow Sunday have a cheaper version
http://www.aldi-stores.co.uk/sunday_...l_buys_pid_560
17.html


....and with that version the on/off switch isn't connected!... :~)

On 2007-07-14 13:35:22 +0100, ":Jerry:" said:


"George" wrote in message
news

"Millan" wrote in message
...

snip
yes. the chap at lidl said they had quite a few returned for this
reason.
Its hard to explain but it feels like the knob inside isnt conected
to
anything so the variable speed isnt working. its very slack and
turns
itself
when the motor is running. Its going back. thanks george

Aldi tomorrow Sunday have a cheaper version
http://www.aldi-stores.co.uk/sunday_...l_buys_pid_560
17.html


...and with that version the on/off switch isn't connected!... :~)

Probably best really....

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2007-07-14 13:35:22 +0100, ":Jerry:" said:


"George" wrote in message
news

"Millan" wrote in message
...

snip
yes. the chap at lidl said they had quite a few returned for this
reason.
Its hard to explain but it feels like the knob inside isnt conected
to
anything so the variable speed isnt working. its very slack and
turns
itself
when the motor is running. Its going back. thanks george

Aldi tomorrow Sunday have a cheaper version
http://www.aldi-stores.co.uk/sunday_...l_buys_pid_560

17.html


...and with that version the on/off switch isn't connected!... :~)

Probably best really....



It really is difficult to believe that, having done the difficult bit,
they can't assemble the bloody things properly.

"Stuart Noble" wrote in message
...
snip

It really is difficult to believe that, having done the difficult
bit, they can't assemble the bloody things properly.

That's what British Leyland dealers used to say when carrying out a
PDI on a brand new car!...

On 2007-07-14 17:59:42 +0100, Stuart Noble
said:

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2007-07-14 13:35:22 +0100, ":Jerry:" said:


"George" wrote in message
news
"Millan" wrote in message
...

snip
yes. the chap at lidl said they had quite a few returned for this
reason.
Its hard to explain but it feels like the knob inside isnt conected
to
anything so the variable speed isnt working. its very slack and
turns
itself
when the motor is running. Its going back. thanks george

Aldi tomorrow Sunday have a cheaper version
http://www.aldi-stores.co.uk/sunday_...l_buys_pid_560
17.html


...and with that version the on/off switch isn't connected!... :~)

Probably best really....



It really is difficult to believe that, having done the difficult bit,
they can't assemble the bloody things properly.

You mean putting a motor inside and connecting a switch to it?

Still, what does it matter if the price is low enough?

Weatherlawyer wrote:

No. But why would you want to run a low powered machine at lower than
optimum speed?

optimum maximum


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Cheers,

John.

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Andy Hall wrote:
On 2007-07-14 17:59:42 +0100, Stuart Noble
said:

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2007-07-14 13:35:22 +0100, ":Jerry:" said:


"George" wrote in message
news
"Millan" wrote in message
...

snip
yes. the chap at lidl said they had quite a few returned for this
reason.
Its hard to explain but it feels like the knob inside isnt conected
to
anything so the variable speed isnt working. its very slack and
turns
itself
when the motor is running. Its going back. thanks george

Aldi tomorrow Sunday have a cheaper version
http://www.aldi-stores.co.uk/sunday_...l_buys_pid_560

17.html


...and with that version the on/off switch isn't connected!... :~)

Probably best really....



It really is difficult to believe that, having done the difficult bit,
they can't assemble the bloody things properly.

You mean putting a motor inside and connecting a switch to it?

Maybe the robot was having an off-day

Still, what does it matter if the price is low enough?

It's obviously possible to produce high quality components at a fraction
of what anyone thought possible 20 years ago, so it's only a matter of
time before the brands we know either get blown out of the water or make
a feeble attempt to compete by putting their badge on even lower cost
crap like they have in other sectors.
I remember the first Makita palm sander from 30(?) years ago. We all had
a good laugh in my local tool shop. It made a lot of noise and did
little else, but it was very cheap.

On Jul 15, 11:13 am, Stuart Noble
wrote:

It's obviously possible to produce high quality components at a fraction
of what anyone thought possible 20 years ago, so it's only a matter of
time before the brands we know either get blown out of the water or make
a feeble attempt to compete by putting their badge on even lower cost
crap like they have in other sectors.

I remember the first Makita palm sander from 30(?) years ago. We all had
a good laugh in my local tool shop. It made a lot of noise and did
little else, but it was very cheap.

Which just goes to show the importance of good management, for it
wasn't a lack of willing and capable workers; no matter how
complacent, that ruined Britain.

I remember Gilpin hammers when everyone eulogised US ones.

And Marples must have been bought out by a foreign firm judging by the
present quality compared to the little tanged (though well crafted
cutting ended) wooden handled chisels of yore.

You didn't dare let loose on them with an hammer. Imagine that.
Stupid.

On 2007-07-15 11:13:34 +0100, Stuart Noble
said:

It really is difficult to believe that, having done the difficult bit,
they can't assemble the bloody things properly.

You mean putting a motor inside and connecting a switch to it?

Maybe the robot was having an off-day

Do you mean the one on the assembly line or the one in quality control?



Still, what does it matter if the price is low enough?

It's obviously possible to produce high quality components at a
fraction of what anyone thought possible 20 years ago, so it's only a
matter of time before the brands we know either get blown out of the
water or make a feeble attempt to compete by putting their badge on
even lower cost crap like they have in other sectors.

... or move up market.


I remember the first Makita palm sander from 30(?) years ago. We all
had a good laugh in my local tool shop. It made a lot of noise and did
little else, but it was very cheap.

Since then, they have learned how to make quality products and provide
proper spares and service backup. They have also learned about
diversifying manufacturing and addressing currency risk and shipping
cost.

I don't particularly care where products are made, provided that there
is proper design and manufacturing and above all QA followed by proper
service and spares. It has been possible to achieve that in
mainland China, but usually where these issues are defined externally
and supervised in the factory.

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On 2007-07-15 11:13:34 +0100, Stuart Noble
said:

It really is difficult to believe that, having done the difficult bit,
they can't assemble the bloody things properly.

You mean putting a motor inside and connecting a switch to it?

Maybe the robot was having an off-day

Do you mean the one on the assembly line or the one in quality control?



Still, what does it matter if the price is low enough?

It's obviously possible to produce high quality components at a fraction
of what anyone thought possible 20 years ago, so it's only a matter of
time before the brands we know either get blown out of the water or make
a feeble attempt to compete by putting their badge on even lower cost
crap like they have in other sectors.

.. or move up market.


I remember the first Makita palm sander from 30(?) years ago. We all had
a good laugh in my local tool shop. It made a lot of noise and did little
else, but it was very cheap.

Since then, they have learned how to make quality products and provide
proper spares and service backup.

Do they have a free service telephone number with piped music while you
wait?

On 2007-07-16 13:28:08 +0100, "Doctor Drivel" said:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message ...
On 2007-07-15 11:13:34 +0100, Stuart Noble
said:


I remember the first Makita palm sander from 30(?) years ago. We all
had a good laugh in my local tool shop. It made a lot of noise and did
little else, but it was very cheap.

Since then, they have learned how to make quality products and provide
proper spares and service backup.

Do they have a free service telephone number with piped music while you wait?

Why don't you call them and find out.

"Owain" wrote in message
...
Andy Hall wrote:
"Doctor Drivel" said
Do they have a free service telephone number with piped music while you
wait?
Why don't you call them and find out.

Nursey took his mobile away after he spent all his canteen money on making
nuisance phone calls to the IOP.

They do have piped music then?