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Mal Jackson May 31st 07 06:27 PM

Do 4" by 2" joists exist anymore?
 
Hullo!

I've got a big hole where I had dry rot and wet rot and I need replacement
4x2 joists - but I can't find any. They all seem undersize.

Before I go traipsing around Nottingham looking for proper 4x2's, does
anybody know if it's possible to get them, or will I have to get undersize
and pack it.

Also, should I expect joists to be straight? the last lot I bought were
warped bigtime.

Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

Mal.

Brian G May 31st 07 07:31 PM

Do 4" by 2" joists exist anymore?
 
Mal Jackson wrote:
Hullo!

I've got a big hole where I had dry rot and wet rot and I need
replacement 4x2 joists - but I can't find any. They all seem
undersize.

Before I go traipsing around Nottingham looking for proper 4x2's, does
anybody know if it's possible to get them, or will I have to get
undersize and pack it.

Also, should I expect joists to be straight? the last lot I bought
were warped bigtime.

Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

Mal.


Mal,

"They all seem undersize." That's because timber sizes have gone metric
since your property was built (I presume it's fairly old).

The answer if you really want to put the same size back - is to get some
timber the next 'size up' and get the timber merchant to cut to the required
dimensions.

With regards to 'bent timber' - just ask the timber merchant if you can
select your own - if its badly warped/twisted, then it's useless, mild bends
can be straightened.


Brian G




Weatherlawyer May 31st 07 07:58 PM

Do 4" by 2" joists exist anymore?
 
On May 31, 7:31 pm, "Brian G" wrote:
Mal Jackson wrote:
Hullo!


I've got a big hole where I had dry rot and wet rot and I need
replacement 4x2 joists - but I can't find any. They all seem
undersize.


Before I go traipsing around Nottingham looking for proper 4x2's, does
anybody know if it's possible to get them, or will I have to get
undersize and pack it.


Also, should I expect joists to be straight? the last lot I bought
were warped bigtime.


Any help appreciated.


Cheers,


Mal.


Mal,

"They all seem undersize." That's because timber sizes have gone metric
since your property was built (I presume it's fairly old).

The answer if you really want to put the same size back - is to get some
timber the next 'size up' and get the timber merchant to cut to the required
dimensions.

With regards to 'bent timber' - just ask the timber merchant if you can
select your own - if its badly warped/twisted, then it's useless, mild bends
can be straightened.


Never accept bananapine if you want real treewood. Get the right stuff
from a decent timber yard and use it before it warps in this hot sunny
weather in which we will all die of glowballs or a surfeit of
USApe****.

There are two grades of timber. Planed (or scant/scantling) which will
be some 5 mm smaller section than the alternativ: rough sawn. Ask for
rough sawn.



[email protected] May 31st 07 08:19 PM

Do 4" by 2" joists exist anymore?
 
Buy the next oversize regularised joists. e.g.
http://www.ridgeons.com/start/timber...ber_doc_16.pdf

Trim them with a circular saw.


The Natural Philosopher May 31st 07 08:49 PM

Do 4" by 2" joists exist anymore?
 
Mal Jackson wrote:
Hullo!

I've got a big hole where I had dry rot and wet rot and I need replacement
4x2 joists - but I can't find any. They all seem undersize.


thats useally the sawn size pre-final drying out and planing if done..

Rough sawn you should be able to get it, or 100mm x 50mm or whatever it is.

Planed will be about 3/16" smaller all round.


Before I go traipsing around Nottingham looking for proper 4x2's, does
anybody know if it's possible to get them, or will I have to get undersize
and pack it.

Also, should I expect joists to be straight? the last lot I bought were
warped bigtime.


go into a decent BM and select the stuff you want. Most building rough
sawn lumber is very much 'no quality control' and its rare to get a
totally straight bit.

Unless you spend a lot more on the wood.


Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

Mal.


Brian G May 31st 07 09:28 PM

Do 4" by 2" joists exist anymore?
 
Brian G wrote:
Mal Jackson wrote:
Hullo!

I've got a big hole where I had dry rot and wet rot and I need
replacement 4x2 joists - but I can't find any. They all seem
undersize.

Before I go traipsing around Nottingham looking for proper 4x2's,
does anybody know if it's possible to get them, or will I have to get
undersize and pack it.

Also, should I expect joists to be straight? the last lot I bought
were warped bigtime.

Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

Mal.


Mal,

"They all seem undersize." That's because timber sizes have gone
metric since your property was built (I presume it's fairly old).

The answer if you really want to put the same size back - is to get
some timber the next 'size up' and get the timber merchant to cut to
the required dimensions.

With regards to 'bent timber' - just ask the timber merchant if you
can select your own - if its badly warped/twisted, then it's useless,
mild bends can be straightened.


Brian G


Mal,

A list of Nottinghams timber merchants for you --

http://www.touchnottingham.com/busin...mber+Merchants

Brian G




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