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Martin H May 23rd 07 09:08 PM

Permissible combi boiler connection point (electrical)
 

I want to have a combi installed in my kitchen. Regards the electrical
mains feed, there is a single switched socket near where I want to
locate the boiler. I gather that switched sockets are against the
rules because they don't completely isolate the boiler. So how about
if I knock the protruding part of the switch off and Araldite over it
so that it is no longer a *switched* socket?

Failing that, there is also an old switched, fused outled which used
to be used for a small Baby Belling cooker. I could simply wire it in
to that. Would either of these options exempt me from filing a Part-P
notification to BCO?

Cheers,

Martin

Lurch May 23rd 07 10:15 PM

Permissible combi boiler connection point (electrical)
 
On Wed, 23 May 2007 21:08:42 +0100, Martin H
mused:


I want to have a combi installed in my kitchen. Regards the electrical
mains feed, there is a single switched socket near where I want to
locate the boiler. I gather that switched sockets are against the
rules because they don't completely isolate the boiler. So how about
if I knock the protruding part of the switch off and Araldite over it
so that it is no longer a *switched* socket?

Not really, because it's then defective equipment in one respect. Some
sockets are douple pole switched so some sockets do comply, soe don't.
Either way, the single pole switch isn't really an issue as unplugging
it completely isolates it.

Failing that, there is also an old switched, fused outled which used
to be used for a small Baby Belling cooker. I could simply wire it in
to that.


Yep.

Would either of these options exempt me from filing a Part-P
notification to BCO?

Depends on the lunar cycle.
--
Regards,
Stuart.

Neil May 23rd 07 10:15 PM

Permissible combi boiler connection point (electrical)
 
"Martin H" wrote in message
...
I want to have a combi installed in my kitchen. Regards the electrical
mains feed, there is a single switched socket near where I want to
locate the boiler. I gather that switched sockets are against the
rules because they don't completely isolate the boiler. So how about
if I knock the protruding part of the switch off and Araldite over it
so that it is no longer a *switched* socket?
Failing that, there is also an old switched, fused outled which used
to be used for a small Baby Belling cooker. I could simply wire it in
to that. Would either of these options exempt me from filing a Part-P
notification to BCO?

Are you allowed to "repair" broken sockets in this position ?
If so, and the switch failed conveniently, then you could probably legally
replace with an unswitched socket.
Not sure if you'd need to keep the broken one to prove it ... normally I
throw away such things.
With luck, the guy fitting the boiler would not insist on having the history
of the house wiring proved to him, just that at the time of fitting it was
OK.
hth
Neil



Lurch May 23rd 07 10:31 PM

Permissible combi boiler connection point (electrical)
 
On Wed, 23 May 2007 21:15:29 GMT, "Neil" mused:

"Martin H" wrote in message
.. .
I want to have a combi installed in my kitchen. Regards the electrical
mains feed, there is a single switched socket near where I want to
locate the boiler. I gather that switched sockets are against the
rules because they don't completely isolate the boiler. So how about
if I knock the protruding part of the switch off and Araldite over it
so that it is no longer a *switched* socket?
Failing that, there is also an old switched, fused outled which used
to be used for a small Baby Belling cooker. I could simply wire it in
to that. Would either of these options exempt me from filing a Part-P
notification to BCO?

Are you allowed to "repair" broken sockets in this position ?
If so, and the switch failed conveniently, then you could probably legally
replace with an unswitched socket.


Replace it with a socket with DP switch.
--
Regards,
Stuart.

Ed Sirett May 23rd 07 10:44 PM

Permissible combi boiler connection point (electrical)
 
On Wed, 23 May 2007 21:08:42 +0100, Martin H wrote:

I want to have a combi installed in my kitchen. Regards the electrical
mains feed, there is a single switched socket near where I want to
locate the boiler. I gather that switched sockets are against the
rules because they don't completely isolate the boiler. So how about
if I knock the protruding part of the switch off and Araldite over it
so that it is no longer a *switched* socket?

Failing that, there is also an old switched, fused outled which used
to be used for a small Baby Belling cooker. I could simply wire it in
to that. Would either of these options exempt me from filing a Part-P
notification to BCO?

Let's leave the araldite alone.

Either change the socket to an unswitched one or change the socket to a
FCU with 3A fuse.

You are not making a new/extension circuit so no notification required.
Part P always applies even when the work is not notifiable. Which means
the regs must be complied with.


--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html
Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html
Gas Fitting Standards Docs he http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards

Pete May 23rd 07 11:19 PM

Permissible combi boiler connection point (electrical)
 

"Martin H" wrote in message
...

I want to have a combi installed in my kitchen. Regards the electrical
mains feed, there is a single switched socket near where I want to
locate the boiler. I gather that switched sockets are against the
rules because they don't completely isolate the boiler. So how about
if I knock the protruding part of the switch off and Araldite over it
so that it is no longer a *switched* socket?

Failing that, there is also an old switched, fused outled which used
to be used for a small Baby Belling cooker. I could simply wire it in
to that. Would either of these options exempt me from filing a Part-P
notification to BCO?

Cheers,

Martin


If it's your own house what is all the fuss. So many on here seem to want
to advertise what they are about to do and get a thrill from the possibility
of "being caught".
Just take an advert in the local paper and get a life.




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