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How to make a "soft ping" timer?
Would it be easy to make a half-hour timer that emitted a soft ping when
the half-hour was up? I thought it might be useful to signal the end of a period of meditation. It's not important at all - and might be fun to do. Any ideas? -- Chris |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:30:36 +0100, Chris ] wrote:
Would it be easy to make a half-hour timer that emitted a soft ping when the half-hour was up? I thought it might be useful to signal the end of a period of meditation. I read that as:- "a period of medication"... ;-) -- Frank Erskine |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:30:36 +0100, Chris ] wrote:
Would it be easy to make a half-hour timer that emitted a soft ping when the half-hour was up? I thought it might be useful to signal the end of a period of meditation. Dead easy! Stick a coin or such in the side of a burning candle, candle standing on a tin plate, so that it falls out after about half an hour... Thomas Prufer |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
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Chris ] wrote: Would it be easy to make a half-hour timer that emitted a soft ping when the half-hour was up? I thought it might be useful to signal the end of a period of meditation. It's not important at all - and might be fun to do. Any ideas? Very easy to do electronically - there are a big selection of sound generators on the market. Or even to use a sample of exactly what you want. My choice would be a suitable piano chord. -- *I took an IQ test and the results were negative. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
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How to make a "soft ping" timer?
HI All
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:30:36 +0100, Chris ] wrote: Would it be easy to make a half-hour timer that emitted a soft ping when the half-hour was up? I thought it might be useful to signal the end of a period of meditation. It's not important at all - and might be fun to do. Any ideas? Another way...... g Find the sound that you like somewhere on the internet Burn it to an audio CD (or tape of you prefer), preceded by 30 minutes of silence (freebie software around to let you do the audio editing side of things) Start the CD when you start your meditation..... .....sound is played 30 minutes later.... Hope this helps Adrian |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
"Adrian" wrote in message ... HI All On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:30:36 +0100, Chris ] wrote: Would it be easy to make a half-hour timer that emitted a soft ping when the half-hour was up? I thought it might be useful to signal the end of a period of meditation. It's not important at all - and might be fun to do. Any ideas? Another way...... g Find the sound that you like somewhere on the internet Burn it to an audio CD (or tape of you prefer), preceded by 30 minutes of silence (freebie software around to let you do the audio editing side of things) Start the CD when you start your meditation..... ....sound is played 30 minutes later.... Hope this helps Adrian Nice idea. Better still, have 5 silent tracks each 10 minutes long and 1 track of 10 minutes ending with the chime. |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
In message , OG
writes Nice idea. Better still, have 5 silent tracks each 10 minutes long and 1 track of 10 minutes ending with the chime. Then slip in another CD with 5 silent tracks and a violent rock track and turn the volume up full. Or program a PIC microcontroller with a button for each 10 minute increment and a simple DAC to create a soft chordy gong noise in software. Bit harder than a CD though. The person who posted the "5 silent tracks and a chime" idea should consider that this is exactly the sort of thing that would sell to hippies on ebay. I wonder how much silence can be stored on a CD with standard audio compression. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:05:36 GMT, Clive Mitchell wrote:
I wonder how much silence can be stored on a CD with standard audio compression. Beware violating copyright, though.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4%E2%80%B233%E2%80%B3 Thomas Prufer |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
HI Owen
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:11:10 +0100, "OG" wrote: "Adrian" wrote in message .. . HI All On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:30:36 +0100, Chris ] wrote: Would it be easy to make a half-hour timer that emitted a soft ping when the half-hour was up? I thought it might be useful to signal the end of a period of meditation. It's not important at all - and might be fun to do. Any ideas? Another way...... g Find the sound that you like somewhere on the internet Burn it to an audio CD (or tape of you prefer), preceded by 30 minutes of silence (freebie software around to let you do the audio editing side of things) Start the CD when you start your meditation..... ....sound is played 30 minutes later.... Hope this helps Adrian Nice idea. Better still, have 5 silent tracks each 10 minutes long and 1 track of 10 minutes ending with the chime. Now you're getting complicated ! Adrian |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:05:36 GMT, Clive Mitchell
wrote: In message , OG writes Nice idea. Better still, have 5 silent tracks each 10 minutes long and 1 track of 10 minutes ending with the chime. Then slip in another CD with 5 silent tracks and a violent rock track and turn the volume up full. Not kind ! g Or program a PIC microcontroller with a button for each 10 minute increment and a simple DAC to create a soft chordy gong noise in software. Bit harder than a CD though. The person who posted the "5 silent tracks and a chime" idea should consider that this is exactly the sort of thing that would sell to hippies on ebay. Ahem ! The idea for 'x mins silence + a sound' actually came from the Spiritualist Church I used to work for in Ipswich. Our Saturday services were a fairly standard, 'prayers, hymns and mediumship' format - but on Sundays the format included a (slient) 'Healing minute' which finished with a chord on the organ, before a particular hymn was sung. In order to give the long-suffering organist the occasional weekend off, we recorded her playing a number of hymns, and 'Goldwaved' these onto CDRs. A little pic-based cirsuit from Elektor (Pandora's box) allowed a standard PC CDROM drive to play the tracks for a service in the right order, and by pressing only one 'big red button'. So - that's where the idea of 'a minute's silence followed by a chord' came from..... .....and 'no' - the congregation were not all 'hippies' g Regards Adrian I wonder how much silence can be stored on a CD with standard audio compression. |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
In message , Clive Mitchell
writes I wonder how much silence can be stored on a CD with standard audio compression. Philistine, audio compression is usually lossy so it'd affect the dynamic range and subsonic clarity. For HiFi quality it needs to be pressed on new vinyl that's only been handled by a 40 year old virgin in an oxygen free environment, or summat like.... -- Clint Sharp |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
In uk.d-i-y, OG wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message .. . Find the sound that you like somewhere on the internet Burn it to an audio CD (or tape of you prefer), preceded by 30 minutes of silence (freebie software around to let you do the audio editing side of things) Start the CD when you start your meditation..... ....sound is played 30 minutes later.... Hope this helps Adrian Nice idea. Better still, have 5 silent tracks each 10 minutes long and 1 track of 10 minutes ending with the chime. Great! Then you'd have the option of putting the player on shuffle, to get a random delay. -- Mike Barnes |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
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Clive Mitchell wrote: I wonder how much silence can be stored on a CD with standard audio compression. Makes no difference if it's a CD. Compact Disc Digital Audio has a red book which defines the standard - including maximum length. Once you use data compression it is no longer a CD. ;-) -- *Why is 'abbreviation' such a long word? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
In uk.d-i-y, Clive Mitchell wrote:
The person who posted the "5 silent tracks and a chime" idea should consider that this is exactly the sort of thing that would sell to hippies on ebay. To do the job properly, you'd want to carefully arrange the track lengths to give a wide range of time periods. For example, ten tracks each of four minutes, two minutes, one minute, and thirty seconds. A total of 40 tracks, time range 0:30 to 75:00. No doubt this scheme could be improved on. Then you'd need to provide a table to look up the starting track number based on the time required. And hope your customers weren't too spaced out to understand it. -- Mike Barnes |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
OG wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message ... HI All On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:30:36 +0100, Chris ] wrote: Would it be easy to make a half-hour timer that emitted a soft ping when the half-hour was up? I thought it might be useful to signal the end of a period of meditation. It's not important at all - and might be fun to do. Any ideas? Another way...... g Find the sound that you like somewhere on the internet Burn it to an audio CD (or tape of you prefer), preceded by 30 minutes of silence (freebie software around to let you do the audio editing side of things) Start the CD when you start your meditation..... ....sound is played 30 minutes later.... Hope this helps Adrian Nice idea. Better still, have 5 silent tracks each 10 minutes long and 1 track of 10 minutes ending with the chime. You might have to pay a royalty for the silent tracks. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...ic/2133426.stm -- LSR |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
In message , Adrian
writes A little pic-based cirsuit from Elektor (Pandora's box) allowed a standard PC CDROM drive to play the tracks for a service in the right order, and by pressing only one 'big red button'. I built that! It worked pretty well. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:56:34 UTC, Huge
wrote: You might have to pay a royalty for the silent tracks. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...ic/2133426.stm Only if you claim the silence is part of John Cage's 4'33" as Mike Batt did. He changed his mind and said that it was co-composed by Mikle Batt and an alias of his - Clint Cage! -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://www.diybanter.com |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
HI Clive
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:58:06 GMT, Clive Mitchell wrote: In message , Adrian writes A little pic-based cirsuit from Elektor (Pandora's box) allowed a standard PC CDROM drive to play the tracks for a service in the right order, and by pressing only one 'big red button'. I built that! It worked pretty well. Yes - didn't it ? I looked at re-engineering it to make it a bit more 'user-friendly' (or 'idiot-proof' !) . In the application I had it would have been good to have the CD index read every time a new CD was inserted, rather than just at power-on, and it would have been reassuring to have a big green 'I'm ready to play' light and a comforting yellow 'I'm playing' light - but in the end I never got the necessary round tuit. There were reports of unreliability on my unut which we eventually traced to the CD-Rom drive iteslf - which was very 2nd-hand when we installed it. Put in a new drive and (so far) reports are good ! Neat piece of kit..... Also thought about making it really clever, along the lines of a 'jukebox' - where you could create a playlist,,, but that idea also perished for want of round tuits... Regards Adrian |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
In message , Adrian
writes I looked at re-engineering it to make it a bit more 'user-friendly' (or 'idiot-proof' !) . In the application I had it would have been good to have the CD index read every time a new CD was inserted, rather than just at power-on, and it would have been reassuring to have a big green 'I'm ready to play' light and a comforting yellow 'I'm playing' light - but in the end I never got the necessary round tuit. As a super reliable alternative consider one of the theme park automated players from http://www.gilderfluke.com . They use memory cards so there's nothing to wear out. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
In message , Adrian
writes Or program a PIC microcontroller with a button for each 10 minute increment and a simple DAC to create a soft chordy gong noise in software. Bit harder than a CD though. The person who posted the "5 silent tracks and a chime" idea should consider that this is exactly the sort of thing that would sell to hippies on ebay. Ahem ! The idea for 'x mins silence + a sound' actually came from the Spiritualist Church I used to work for in Ipswich. Not the bethesda baptist church ? -- geoff |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
HI Clive
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:32:18 GMT, Clive Mitchell wrote: In message , Adrian writes I looked at re-engineering it to make it a bit more 'user-friendly' (or 'idiot-proof' !) . In the application I had it would have been good to have the CD index read every time a new CD was inserted, rather than just at power-on, and it would have been reassuring to have a big green 'I'm ready to play' light and a comforting yellow 'I'm playing' light - but in the end I never got the necessary round tuit. As a super reliable alternative consider one of the theme park automated players from http://www.gilderfluke.com . They use memory cards so there's nothing to wear out. There's reliable and there's 'user friendly' g What we needed was some kind of a simple solution - along the lines of 'select the CD with the hymns on that you'd like to play and put it into the drive'. Everything in the right order, just press the 'go' button to play each track in the right sequence.. Even then, people manage to cock it up ! g Regards Adrian |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
HI Geoff
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:04:11 GMT, raden wrote: In message , Adrian writes Or program a PIC microcontroller with a button for each 10 minute increment and a simple DAC to create a soft chordy gong noise in software. Bit harder than a CD though. The person who posted the "5 silent tracks and a chime" idea should consider that this is exactly the sort of thing that would sell to hippies on ebay. Ahem ! The idea for 'x mins silence + a sound' actually came from the Spiritualist Church I used to work for in Ipswich. Not the bethesda baptist church ? No - not that one..... ....this one - www.cedars-spiritualists.co.uk Regards Adrian |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
"Huge" wrote in message ... On 2007-04-27, LSR wrote: OG wrote: "Adrian" wrote in message ... HI All On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:30:36 +0100, Chris ] wrote: Would it be easy to make a half-hour timer that emitted a soft ping when the half-hour was up? I thought it might be useful to signal the end of a period of meditation. It's not important at all - and might be fun to do. Any ideas? Another way...... g Find the sound that you like somewhere on the internet Burn it to an audio CD (or tape of you prefer), preceded by 30 minutes of silence (freebie software around to let you do the audio editing side of things) Start the CD when you start your meditation..... ....sound is played 30 minutes later.... Hope this helps Adrian Nice idea. Better still, have 5 silent tracks each 10 minutes long and 1 track of 10 minutes ending with the chime. You might have to pay a royalty for the silent tracks. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...ic/2133426.stm Only if you claim the silence is part of John Cage's 4'33" as Mike Batt did. At a cheapo music shop I once saw a compilation CD of excerpts of "Modern Music of the 20th Century" or summat, which included about 1'45" of 4'33". Unfortunately it didn't say whether the excerpt was from the beginning, the middle or the end, which struck me as a bit disrespectful of the original piece. |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
"Mike Barnes" wrote in message ... In uk.d-i-y, Clive Mitchell wrote: The person who posted the "5 silent tracks and a chime" idea should consider that this is exactly the sort of thing that would sell to hippies on ebay. To do the job properly, you'd want to carefully arrange the track lengths to give a wide range of time periods. For example, ten tracks each of four minutes, two minutes, one minute, and thirty seconds. A total of 40 tracks, time range 0:30 to 75:00. No doubt this scheme could be improved on. Then you'd need to provide a table to look up the starting track number based on the time required. And hope your customers weren't too spaced out to understand it. -- Mike Barnes It's always a compromise. the 5 silences and a 'silence+ding' was so that you didn't need to do too many 'skip's before you were ready. I once built a dark room circuit based on a IC555 chip that switched on the enlarger bulb for combinations of 1 : 2 : 4 : 8 second intervals based on DIP switches to give me any combination up to 2 minutes 7 seconds - of course it was too much bother to use, so you go for 'one elephant' 'two elephant' instead! There's rarely a need to be able to discriminate between 1'32" and 1'33" |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
In uk.d-i-y, OG wrote:
"Mike Barnes" wrote in message d... In uk.d-i-y, Clive Mitchell wrote: The person who posted the "5 silent tracks and a chime" idea should consider that this is exactly the sort of thing that would sell to hippies on ebay. To do the job properly, you'd want to carefully arrange the track lengths to give a wide range of time periods. For example, ten tracks each of four minutes, two minutes, one minute, and thirty seconds. A total of 40 tracks, time range 0:30 to 75:00. No doubt this scheme could be improved on. Then you'd need to provide a table to look up the starting track number based on the time required. And hope your customers weren't too spaced out to understand it. -- Mike Barnes It's always a compromise. the 5 silences and a 'silence+ding' was so that you didn't need to do too many 'skip's before you were ready. Ah, I see. I'm used to entering the track number on the remote control. -- Mike Barnes |
How to make a "soft ping" timer?
In uk.d-i-y, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:56:34 UTC, Huge wrote: You might have to pay a royalty for the silent tracks. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...ic/2133426.stm Only if you claim the silence is part of John Cage's 4'33" as Mike Batt did. He changed his mind and said that it was co-composed by Mikle Batt and an alias of his - Clint Cage! I thought they were all extracts from that LP "The Wit and Wisdom of Ronald Reagan" (Stiff Records, 1980) - 40 minutes of silence. -- Mike Barnes |
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