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David Hearn September 16th 03 03:48 PM

Rough cost of re-doing a concrete drive
 
Our (shared) driveway is looking quite tatty, with holes in the concrete
exposing hollows below etc. Its been patched as well (possibly for a new
gas/electricity supply in the past) and just looks poor.

I'm loathed to pay anyone to do work which I think I can do myself - (famous
last words!). So - does anyone have any idea (very rough would be useful)
the sort of cost I would expect to rip up the old concrete, dispose of it,
and relay (bearing in mind its a driveway which is about 2 cars (Pug 306!)
width wide, and possibly 3 to 3.5 cars long).

Things I can think of (but no idea of cost) would be:

Small digger hire (I'm not going to break my back as well as the concrete!)
Skip (or however many skips I'd need)
Concrete to lay (is it realistic mixing it myself for this sort of size -
getting it pre-mixed would be easiest).

Looking at that, it sounds a nice and easy job! Is it actually straight
forward - or is there more to it than that. Obviously it'll be hard work -
but as long as its not complex - I think it should be okay.

Also - any ideas what sort of cost I may expect to get someone in to do it?
Bearing in mind its a shared driveway, it may not be that expensive to do it
between the two of us. We're in Guildford, Surrey - a costly county!

Thanks

D

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Squid September 16th 03 03:58 PM

Rough cost of re-doing a concrete drive
 
Skip hire is £138 for 6yards, £160 for 8 yards - Sutton, South London,
probably similar to Guildford.

Have you thaught about tidying up the existing concrete by covering it with
something - see my other posting "Driveway" ?








"David Hearn" wrote in message
...
Our (shared) driveway is looking quite tatty, with holes in the concrete
exposing hollows below etc. Its been patched as well (possibly for a new
gas/electricity supply in the past) and just looks poor.

I'm loathed to pay anyone to do work which I think I can do myself -

(famous
last words!). So - does anyone have any idea (very rough would be useful)
the sort of cost I would expect to rip up the old concrete, dispose of it,
and relay (bearing in mind its a driveway which is about 2 cars (Pug 306!)
width wide, and possibly 3 to 3.5 cars long).

Things I can think of (but no idea of cost) would be:

Small digger hire (I'm not going to break my back as well as the

concrete!)
Skip (or however many skips I'd need)
Concrete to lay (is it realistic mixing it myself for this sort of size -
getting it pre-mixed would be easiest).

Looking at that, it sounds a nice and easy job! Is it actually straight
forward - or is there more to it than that. Obviously it'll be hard

work -
but as long as its not complex - I think it should be okay.

Also - any ideas what sort of cost I may expect to get someone in to do

it?
Bearing in mind its a shared driveway, it may not be that expensive to do

it
between the two of us. We're in Guildford, Surrey - a costly county!

Thanks

D

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David Hearn September 16th 03 04:15 PM

Rough cost of re-doing a concrete drive
 
Yes - that's what made me think about it. The trouble is that the surface
isn't terribly great (lots of patchy bits, uneven etc) and whilst coating it
with that stuff may well make the surface look nice - my concern is that
it'll still be uneven, and I'm sure it'll show through - whereas redoing it
may get a better result.

To be honest, its unlikely we'd get it done - but having an idea of the
price may surprise us into doing something about it. ;)

Incidentally, how many skips do you think we'd need for that amount of
concrete (assuming we'd need to dig it all up).

D

"Squid" wrote in message
.. .
Skip hire is £138 for 6yards, £160 for 8 yards - Sutton, South London,
probably similar to Guildford.

Have you thaught about tidying up the existing concrete by covering it

with
something - see my other posting "Driveway" ?


"David Hearn" wrote in message
...
Our (shared) driveway is looking quite tatty, with holes in the concrete
exposing hollows below etc. Its been patched as well (possibly for a

new
gas/electricity supply in the past) and just looks poor.

I'm loathed to pay anyone to do work which I think I can do myself -

(famous
last words!). So - does anyone have any idea (very rough would be

useful)
the sort of cost I would expect to rip up the old concrete, dispose of

it,
and relay (bearing in mind its a driveway which is about 2 cars (Pug

306!)
width wide, and possibly 3 to 3.5 cars long).

Things I can think of (but no idea of cost) would be:

Small digger hire (I'm not going to break my back as well as the

concrete!)
Skip (or however many skips I'd need)
Concrete to lay (is it realistic mixing it myself for this sort of

size -
getting it pre-mixed would be easiest).

Looking at that, it sounds a nice and easy job! Is it actually straigh

t
forward - or is there more to it than that. Obviously it'll be hard

work -
but as long as its not complex - I think it should be okay.

Also - any ideas what sort of cost I may expect to get someone in to do

it?
Bearing in mind its a shared driveway, it may not be that expensive to

do
it
between the two of us. We're in Guildford, Surrey - a costly county!

Thanks

D

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Squid September 16th 03 04:30 PM

Rough cost of re-doing a concrete drive
 
I dug out a triangle about 300 deep, roughly equivalent to the area covered
by a family car (Frontera) and it pretty well filled the 6 yard skip - but
the hole you make seems to be smaller than the amount of mud you put in the
skip, I guess that is because it is quite compact before digging and
comparatively "spaced out" when it gets into the skip.

For the difference in price, you are probably better off getting a skip
thats a bit bigger than you need just in case - if you are like me there
will be bits of rubbish hidden around the place that can go in if you have
any space left over - or do the neighbours a favour and let them top it off.


"David Hearn" wrote in message
...
Yes - that's what made me think about it. The trouble is that the surface
isn't terribly great (lots of patchy bits, uneven etc) and whilst coating

it
with that stuff may well make the surface look nice - my concern is that
it'll still be uneven, and I'm sure it'll show through - whereas redoing

it
may get a better result.

To be honest, its unlikely we'd get it done - but having an idea of the
price may surprise us into doing something about it. ;)

Incidentally, how many skips do you think we'd need for that amount of
concrete (assuming we'd need to dig it all up).

D

"Squid" wrote in message
.. .
Skip hire is £138 for 6yards, £160 for 8 yards - Sutton, South London,
probably similar to Guildford.

Have you thaught about tidying up the existing concrete by covering it

with
something - see my other posting "Driveway" ?


"David Hearn" wrote in message
...
Our (shared) driveway is looking quite tatty, with holes in the

concrete
exposing hollows below etc. Its been patched as well (possibly for a

new
gas/electricity supply in the past) and just looks poor.

I'm loathed to pay anyone to do work which I think I can do myself -

(famous
last words!). So - does anyone have any idea (very rough would be

useful)
the sort of cost I would expect to rip up the old concrete, dispose of

it,
and relay (bearing in mind its a driveway which is about 2 cars (Pug

306!)
width wide, and possibly 3 to 3.5 cars long).

Things I can think of (but no idea of cost) would be:

Small digger hire (I'm not going to break my back as well as the

concrete!)
Skip (or however many skips I'd need)
Concrete to lay (is it realistic mixing it myself for this sort of

size -
getting it pre-mixed would be easiest).

Looking at that, it sounds a nice and easy job! Is it actually

straigh
t
forward - or is there more to it than that. Obviously it'll be hard

work -
but as long as its not complex - I think it should be okay.

Also - any ideas what sort of cost I may expect to get someone in to

do
it?
Bearing in mind its a shared driveway, it may not be that expensive to

do
it
between the two of us. We're in Guildford, Surrey - a costly county!

Thanks

D

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Neil Jones September 16th 03 04:33 PM

Rough cost of re-doing a concrete drive
 
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 15:48:52 +0100, "David Hearn"
wrote:

Frist of all, have a look at http://www.pavingexpert.com for estimates
of quantities required, construction techniques etc.

I'm loathed to pay anyone to do work which I think I can do myself - (famous
last words!). So - does anyone have any idea (very rough would be useful)
the sort of cost I would expect to rip up the old concrete, dispose of it,
and relay (bearing in mind its a driveway which is about 2 cars (Pug 306!)
width wide, and possibly 3 to 3.5 cars long).

Things I can think of (but no idea of cost) would be:

Small digger hire (I'm not going to break my back as well as the concrete!)


When I remade my drive in March I hired a 1.5T mini digger for a week
for £200 + VAT + insurance + fuel. The week ran from Friday afternoon
to the Monday morning 10 days later. It was fine for ripping out the
old conrete edging and any bits of concrete where you could get a good
bit of leverage but there are a couple of areas I had to leave becasue
the machine wasn't beefy enough to smach them or pull them up with
restricted access. If you have access all round the drive you should
be OK.

Skip (or however many skips I'd need)
Concrete to lay (is it realistic mixing it myself for this sort of size -
getting it pre-mixed would be easiest).


I used mixamate who charged £95+VAT per cubic metre for the first 2
metres, and then the guy came back and did the rest privately for
cash. It's amazing how small and area 1 metre of concrete will cover,
and yet how much it weighs.


Looking at that, it sounds a nice and easy job! Is it actually straight
forward - or is there more to it than that.


Do you need to put a sub base under a concrete slab? I can't remember
offhand but the website referred to above will tell you.

Obviously it'll be hard work -
but as long as its not complex - I think it should be okay.

Also - any ideas what sort of cost I may expect to get someone in to do it?

I reckon I saved about £2k doing mine - but it was a fair bit bigger

Bearing in mind its a shared driveway, it may not be that expensive to do it
between the two of us. We're in Guildford, Surrey - a costly county!


I'm near Tonbridge, Kent. not Surrey, but not cheap either.

Thanks

D


HTH

Neil


David September 16th 03 04:53 PM

Rough cost of re-doing a concrete drive
 

"Squid" wrote in message
.. .

For the difference in price, you are probably better off getting a skip
thats a bit bigger than you need just in case - if you are like me there
will be bits of rubbish hidden around the place that can go in if you have
any space left over - or do the neighbours a favour and let them top it

off.

Yeah, get the bigger skip... if your neighbours are anything like mine
you'll be doing them this favour whether you like it or not!

I remember a few years ago when we had builders' skips on the drive for some
time; it was a real education. One night the skip would be filled up with
crap dumped by somebody; the next night somebody else would have been
sniffing round, nicked the crap, and then by morning it would have been
replaced with something different. Etc etc. My personal, free,
bring-and-buy sale...

David



PoP September 16th 03 07:30 PM

Rough cost of re-doing a concrete drive
 
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 16:53:29 +0100, "David"
wrote:

I remember a few years ago when we had builders' skips on the drive for some
time; it was a real education. One night the skip would be filled up with
crap dumped by somebody; the next night somebody else would have been
sniffing round, nicked the crap, and then by morning it would have been
replaced with something different. Etc etc. My personal, free,
bring-and-buy sale...


Hmm, just thought of a new web resource - eskip.

Do you think ebay would have anything to worry about? ;)

PoP


Owain September 16th 03 09:38 PM

Rough cost of re-doing a concrete drive
 
"PoP" wrote
| "David" wrote:
| I remember a few years ago when we had builders' skips on the drive
| for some time; it was a real education. One night the skip would be
| filled up with crap dumped by somebody; the next night somebody else
| would have been sniffing round, nicked the crap, and then by morning
| it would have been replaced with something different. Etc etc. My
| personal, free, bring-and-buy sale...
| Hmm, just thought of a new web resource - eskip.
| Do you think ebay would have anything to worry about? ;)

They might claim copyright infringement if you had a "Nick it now!" icon

Owain




Richard September 17th 03 02:56 PM

Rough cost of re-doing a concrete drive
 

| I remember a few years ago when we had builders' skips on the drive
| for some time; it was a real education. One night the skip would be
| filled up with crap dumped by somebody; the next night somebody else
| would have been sniffing round, nicked the crap, and then by morning
| it would have been replaced with something different. Etc etc. My
| personal, free, bring-and-buy sale...


When I worked in a Uni Physics dept, they were doing some long term
refurbs involving a couple of skips being (theoretically) emptied every
few days. We received a memo from the HoD that ran something like,

"Please stop taking stuff out of the skips. The contractors will only
remove them when they're full, and they keep turning up having been told
they're full only to find someone's emptied them again."

It did seem a shame, though, to send off all this gorgeous
brass/wood/glass lab equipment to be crushed. I managed to acquire a
beautiful and only slightly cracked (and therefore useless, but
decorative) 19thC discharge tube.

R.

Christian McArdle September 17th 03 03:05 PM

Rough cost of re-doing a concrete drive
 
Hmm, just thought of a new web resource - eskip.

I've stopped using skips. I find adverting at zero price in the free ads for
any old cr*p will bring plenty of responses. A few tonnes of rubble? You'll
soon get someone along in a flat bed Transit wanting to lay a new shed base.
I wish I hadn't put a 20 year old leaky and manky fridge freezer in there,
though. The phone didn't stop ringing for weeks. The first to get to the
house was practically salivating over the brown drips of indeterminate
substances oozing out of the door seals. It saved me a trip to the tip with
the thing leaking over my van.

Christian.




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