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jkn March 20th 07 11:04 PM

Dremel multi - fault diagnosis & repair
 
I have a Dremel Multi (model 395) which until now has had only very
light use. I recently had a 'proper' use for it - cutting a square
hole in a steel plate (1mm think or so). I bought some diamond cutting
wheels for the dremel off eBay and set to work. I wasn't going 'hell
for leather' and was paying some attention to allowing the thing to
stay cool-ish.

Don'tcha know it - in the middle of this job the Dremel has packed up.
Or partly ... it stops after a few seconds, seemingly losing power. It
might start up again after a few seconds, or if I wiggle the cable as
it goes into the drill, or if I use the built in switch/speed control
to cut the power, then try powering it up again. But then it stops
again after a few seconds.

I've opened the thing up and all seems well - the brushes seem OK, the
cable connections are tight, the commutator seems OK, etc.. I've seen
that Dremel do a load of spares and I wonder if anyone has experience
of what might have gone wrong. My current thoughts are maybe the speed
control unit, but given my recent poor experience of Bench Grinder
fault diagnosis (and that I guess this is the most expensive part to
replace) I'm happy to learn of common problems with these units.

Thanks
Jon N


[email protected] March 20th 07 11:10 PM

Dremel multi - fault diagnosis & repair
 
On 20 Mar, 23:04, "jkn" wrote:

I have a Dremel Multi (model 395) which until now has had only very
light use. I recently had a 'proper' use for it - cutting a square
hole in a steel plate (1mm think or so). I bought some diamond cutting
wheels for the dremel off eBay and set to work. I wasn't going 'hell
for leather' and was paying some attention to allowing the thing to
stay cool-ish.

Don'tcha know it - in the middle of this job the Dremel has packed up.
Or partly ... it stops after a few seconds, seemingly losing power. It
might start up again after a few seconds, or if I wiggle the cable as
it goes into the drill, or if I use the built in switch/speed control
to cut the power, then try powering it up again. But then it stops
again after a few seconds.

I've opened the thing up and all seems well - the brushes seem OK, the
cable connections are tight, the commutator seems OK, etc.. I've seen
that Dremel do a load of spares and I wonder if anyone has experience
of what might have gone wrong. My current thoughts are maybe the speed
control unit, but given my recent poor experience of Bench Grinder
fault diagnosis (and that I guess this is the most expensive part to
replace) I'm happy to learn of common problems with these units.

Thanks
Jon N


you need to use a multimeter and find out. What v is on the low v
power line when its running and when it cuts out? etc. We cant tell
you which bit's bad. I could gues but theres not much point.


NT


Clive Mitchell March 21st 07 12:43 AM

Dremel multi - fault diagnosis & repair
 
In message m, jkn
writes
I've opened the thing up and all seems well - the brushes seem OK, the
cable connections are tight, the commutator seems OK, etc.. I've seen
that Dremel do a load of spares and I wonder if anyone has experience
of what might have gone wrong. My current thoughts are maybe the speed
control unit, but given my recent poor experience of Bench Grinder
fault diagnosis (and that I guess this is the most expensive part to
replace) I'm happy to learn of common problems with these units.


Have a good look at the switch or variable speed circuitry. They are
annoyingly prone to causing problems when dust gets into the contacts.
Not so great for a tool that makes dust as part of it's operation.

--
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com

jkn March 25th 07 04:09 PM

Dremel multi - fault diagnosis & repair
 
update - I did a bit of reading and investigating the dremel innards.
The speed controller board is based on a surface mount BT134W
Thyristor which not uncommonly blows. I'll add one to my next FEC
order. In the meantime I have jury-rigged around the speed controller,
and I'm running the dremel off a Variac instead. This works at least
as well as the original internal one.

Cheers
Jon N


jkn March 30th 07 12:19 PM

Dremel multi - fault diagnosis & repair
 
Further update, which might be useful to others.

Even running with a variac the drill would cut out after some minutes
work. This was fairly consistent and originally I attributed it to the
drill getting warm, guessed that there was a thermal cutout operating
somewhere. I'm cutting a 1mm or so piece of steel so I did think I
might be overloading the motor. After half an hour's rest or so the
motor would start up OK again.

Anyway, after a few of these cycles it seemed to pack up completely ;-
(. I buzzed through the motor windings and one of the stators measured
as open circuit. I was just about to throw it in the bin when I
thought to check the connection between the stator wire and the pin
into which the volts go. This is not soldered as I expected, but is a
sort of cheap IDC knife-edge connection, for the enamelled wire. The
connector fell off the wire as soon as I looked at it.

So I've remade this connection and things seem fine again. It looks
like when manufactured the connector is forced down into its housing
where it supposed to engage with the wire and 'cut' a connection. I
did this a bit more thoroughly than they seemed to have done at the
factory. If it fails again I'll probably solder it up.

I'm guessing that originally the drill warming up was causing this
connection to fail after a while, and be re-made when the drill cooled
down. Not very impressed with Dremel quality at the moment....

jon N



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