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Mark March 10th 07 12:15 PM

GU10 energy efficient bulbs
 
Hi,

I am looking for a source of EE GU10 bulbs for replacement of halogen
bulbs. I have many recessed fittings in my kitchen and dining room
and want to same some money/CO2 etc.

However all the ones I have seen are significantly bigger than the
halogen bulbs and hence will not fit properly. Does anyone know of
any suitable replacement bulbs that are not larger?

TIA, Mark


Simon Stroud March 10th 07 01:26 PM

GU10 energy efficient bulbs
 

"Mark" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I am looking for a source of EE GU10 bulbs for replacement of halogen
bulbs. I have many recessed fittings in my kitchen and dining room
and want to same some money/CO2 etc.

However all the ones I have seen are significantly bigger than the
halogen bulbs and hence will not fit properly. Does anyone know of
any suitable replacement bulbs that are not larger?

TIA, Mark


Don't expect to be stunned by the brightness of the fluorescent or LED
types.

I put some CFL ones in my kitchen GU10 fittings (normally 5 x 50W ones).
They were VERY disappointing and I quickly went back to the halogens. The
CFL ones are just about OK in my study but they take a LONG time to reach
brightness. For fun I also tried a couple of LED ones from CPC as these of
course are instant-on. They were even more disappointing and a strange
colour.

If TPTB are going to bring in a ban on energy-guzzling GU10s in the future
I'd say start stocking up now!

(And maybe a chance for Bliar to set up YET another "agency" such as the
"lighting inspection agency" staffed by hi vis yellow-jacketed officers in
lavishly equipped Range Rovers to come round your house checking up on you.
Hmmmm.)

Regards,
Simon.



cynic March 10th 07 01:36 PM

GU10 energy efficient bulbs
 
On 10 Mar, 13:26, "Simon Stroud" wrote:
"Mark" wrote in message

...

Hi,


I am looking for a source of EE GU10 bulbs for replacement of halogen
bulbs. I have many recessed fittings in my kitchen and dining room
and want to same some money/CO2 etc.


However all the ones I have seen are significantly bigger than the
halogen bulbs and hence will not fit properly. Does anyone know of
any suitable replacement bulbs that are not larger?


TIA, Mark


Don't expect to be stunned by the brightness of the fluorescent or LED
types.

I put some CFL ones in my kitchen GU10 fittings (normally 5 x 50W ones).
They were VERY disappointing and I quickly went back to the halogens. The
CFL ones are just about OK in my study but they take a LONG time to reach
brightness. For fun I also tried a couple of LED ones from CPC as these of
course are instant-on. They were even more disappointing and a strange
colour.

If TPTB are going to bring in a ban on energy-guzzling GU10s in the future
I'd say start stocking up now!

(And maybe a chance for Bliar to set up YET another "agency" such as the
"lighting inspection agency" staffed by hi vis yellow-jacketed officers in
lavishly equipped Range Rovers to come round your house checking up on you.
Hmmmm.)

Regards,
Simon.


I think there are going to be some bruising sessions when they turn up
at many doors.
I for one will not lie down and be walked over in my own home.


Brian Sharrock March 10th 07 03:12 PM

GU10 energy efficient bulbs
 

"cynic" wrote in message
ups.com...
On 10 Mar, 13:26, "Simon Stroud" wrote:
"Mark" wrote in message

...

Hi,


I am looking for a source of EE GU10 bulbs for replacement of halogen
bulbs. I have many recessed fittings in my kitchen and dining room
and want to same some money/CO2 etc.


However all the ones I have seen are significantly bigger than the
halogen bulbs and hence will not fit properly. Does anyone know of
any suitable replacement bulbs that are not larger?


TIA, Mark


Don't expect to be stunned by the brightness of the fluorescent or LED
types.

I put some CFL ones in my kitchen GU10 fittings (normally 5 x 50W ones).
They were VERY disappointing and I quickly went back to the halogens. The
CFL ones are just about OK in my study but they take a LONG time to reach
brightness. For fun I also tried a couple of LED ones from CPC as these
of
course are instant-on. They were even more disappointing and a strange
colour.

If TPTB are going to bring in a ban on energy-guzzling GU10s in the
future
I'd say start stocking up now!

(And maybe a chance for Bliar to set up YET another "agency" such as the
"lighting inspection agency" staffed by hi vis yellow-jacketed officers
in
lavishly equipped Range Rovers to come round your house checking up on
you.
Hmmmm.)

Regards,
Simon.


I think there are going to be some bruising sessions when they turn up
at many doors.
I for one will not lie down and be walked over in my own home.


Thumping an 'Environmental Lumens / Domestic Inspection Officer' [NALGO
Grade iii with index-linked Pension-plan] will get you laid down in your own
home while s/he walks over you to confiscate your illegal luminaries ---
whereas walking quietly to the polling station and using your cross to
strike BL-iars mob off the electoral map will give much more satisfaction.
:)
{Unless, of course, Tone uses the whip to enact his 'Continuation of
Government (Modernisation) Bill' to 'modernise' the system so that
elections, with all their tedious need for registration, ballot printing,
counting etc. etc. are swept away as being .. 'so last century' - just like
the incandescent filament. {Recall: Tone has said that he won't stand for
re-election; not that he won't continue as Head of Government].

--

Brian


--

Brian




Simon Stroud March 10th 07 05:21 PM

GU10 energy efficient bulbs
 

"Brian Sharrock" wrote in message
...

"cynic" wrote in message
ups.com...
On 10 Mar, 13:26, "Simon Stroud" wrote:
"Mark" wrote in message

...

Hi,

I am looking for a source of EE GU10 bulbs for replacement of halogen
bulbs. I have many recessed fittings in my kitchen and dining room
and want to same some money/CO2 etc.

However all the ones I have seen are significantly bigger than the
halogen bulbs and hence will not fit properly. Does anyone know of
any suitable replacement bulbs that are not larger?

TIA, Mark

Don't expect to be stunned by the brightness of the fluorescent or LED
types.

I put some CFL ones in my kitchen GU10 fittings (normally 5 x 50W ones).
They were VERY disappointing and I quickly went back to the halogens.
The
CFL ones are just about OK in my study but they take a LONG time to
reach
brightness. For fun I also tried a couple of LED ones from CPC as these
of
course are instant-on. They were even more disappointing and a strange
colour.

If TPTB are going to bring in a ban on energy-guzzling GU10s in the
future
I'd say start stocking up now!

(And maybe a chance for Bliar to set up YET another "agency" such as the
"lighting inspection agency" staffed by hi vis yellow-jacketed officers
in
lavishly equipped Range Rovers to come round your house checking up on
you.
Hmmmm.)

Regards,
Simon.


I think there are going to be some bruising sessions when they turn up
at many doors.
I for one will not lie down and be walked over in my own home.


Thumping an 'Environmental Lumens / Domestic Inspection Officer' [NALGO
Grade iii with index-linked Pension-plan] will get you laid down in your
own home while s/he walks over you to confiscate your illegal
uminaries --- whereas walking quietly to the polling station and using
your cross to strike BL-iars mob off the electoral map will give much more
satisfaction. :)
{Unless, of course, Tone uses the whip to enact his 'Continuation of
Government (Modernisation) Bill' to 'modernise' the system so that
elections, with all their tedious need for registration, ballot printing,
counting etc. etc. are swept away as being .. 'so last century' - just
like the incandescent filament. {Recall: Tone has said that he won't
stand for re-election; not that he won't continue as Head of Government].

--

Brian


We're doomed!



Clive Mitchell March 10th 07 07:22 PM

GU10 energy efficient bulbs
 
In message , Simon Stroud
writes
I put some CFL ones in my kitchen GU10 fittings (normally 5 x 50W
ones). They were VERY disappointing and I quickly went back to the
halogens. The CFL ones are just about OK in my study but they take a
LONG time to reach brightness. For fun I also tried a couple of LED
ones from CPC as these of course are instant-on. They were even more
disappointing and a strange colour.


One thing to consider is the use of 12V 20 watt lamps with a small
electronic power supply tucked up through the hole. The 12V lamps are
much more efficient and last longer too.

The LED GU10 lamps are a novelty only suited to decoration at the
moment. Most of them use a small capacitor based current limiter inside
which means they die quickly when used on a dimmer.

Here's the inside of a cheap LED lamp....

http://www.emanator.demon.co.uk/candle2.jpg

--
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com

Simon Stroud March 10th 07 07:31 PM

GU10 energy efficient bulbs
 

"Clive Mitchell" wrote in message
...
In message , Simon Stroud
writes
I put some CFL ones in my kitchen GU10 fittings (normally 5 x 50W ones).
They were VERY disappointing and I quickly went back to the halogens. The
CFL ones are just about OK in my study but they take a LONG time to reach
brightness. For fun I also tried a couple of LED ones from CPC as these of
course are instant-on. They were even more disappointing and a strange
colour.


One thing to consider is the use of 12V 20 watt lamps with a small
electronic power supply tucked up through the hole. The 12V lamps are
much more efficient and last longer too.

The LED GU10 lamps are a novelty only suited to decoration at the moment.
Most of them use a small capacitor based current limiter inside which
means they die quickly when used on a dimmer.

Here's the inside of a cheap LED lamp....

http://www.emanator.demon.co.uk/candle2.jpg

--
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com


Hmmm that is a bit cheapo.

Probably explains why the one I tried died after a couple of months.

Regards,
Simon.



The Medway Handyman March 10th 07 08:14 PM

GU10 energy efficient bulbs
 
Simon Stroud wrote:

(And maybe a chance for Bliar to set up YET another "agency" such as
the "lighting inspection agency" staffed by hi vis yellow-jacketed
officers in lavishly equipped Range Rovers to come round your house
checking up on you. Hmmmm.)


I'm waiting till 1st July when the smoking ban comes into force. Local
night club, 1500 drunken teenagers - put that fag out...............


--
Dave
The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257



Frank Erskine March 10th 07 08:28 PM

GU10 energy efficient bulbs
 
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:14:56 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:

I'm waiting till 1st July when the smoking ban comes into force. Local
night club, 1500 drunken teenagers - put that fag out...............


The night club will lose its licence if it doesn't enforce the ban...

--
Frank Erskine

Clive Mitchell March 11th 07 01:25 AM

GU10 energy efficient bulbs
 
In message , Simon Stroud
writes
Here's the inside of a cheap LED lamp....

http://www.emanator.demon.co.uk/candle2.jpg


Hmmm that is a bit cheapo.

Probably explains why the one I tried died after a couple of months.


There's nothing wrong with the circuitry really. It's a typical
capacitive dropper. The problem with early lights was the quality of
the LEDs themselves.

--
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com

Clive Mitchell March 11th 07 01:25 AM

GU10 energy efficient bulbs
 
In message , Frank Erskine
writes
I'm waiting till 1st July when the smoking ban comes into force. Local
night club, 1500 drunken teenagers - put that fag out...............


The night club will lose its licence if it doesn't enforce the ban...


It worked fine here in Scotland with some unexpected results...

Smokers socialise more as they stand outside puffing away.
The clubs smell of BO because there's no stink to mask it.
The pubs are visually clearer with no "beams" from the lamps.
Sales of cigarettes went UP!

--
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com

ÇåÔÆ March 11th 07 03:58 AM

GU10 energy efficient bulbs
 
On 3ÔÂ10ÈÕ, ÏÂÎç8ʱ15·Ö, Mark wrote:
Hi,

I am looking for a source of EE GU10 bulbs for replacement of halogen
bulbs. I have many recessed fittings in my kitchen and dining room
and want to same some money/CO2 etc.

However all the ones I have seen are significantly bigger than the
halogen bulbs and hence will not fit properly. Does anyone know of
any suitable replacement bulbs that are not larger?

TIA, Mark


http://www.fy4.net/03.htm


David Hansen March 11th 07 08:52 AM

GU10 energy efficient bulbs
 
On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:18:01 GMT someone who may be
wrote this:-

I've been using CFLs almost exclusively for over 10 years with few problems,
(mainly from cheaper lamps). Don't base your opinion on supermarket special
offers.


Indeed. It must have been over a decade ago that I bought a GLS
bulb.


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

Jason March 11th 07 12:37 PM

GU10 energy efficient bulbs
 

...
However all the ones I have seen are significantly bigger than the
halogen bulbs and hence will not fit properly. Does anyone know of
any suitable replacement bulbs that are not larger?

TIA, Mark


http://www.fy4.net/03.htm

*Don't* click the above. The page at the other end just tried to install a
virius on my PC.



Andrew Gabriel March 11th 07 01:14 PM

GU10 energy efficient bulbs
 
In article ,
"Jason" writes:

...
However all the ones I have seen are significantly bigger than the
halogen bulbs and hence will not fit properly. Does anyone know of
any suitable replacement bulbs that are not larger?

TIA, Mark


http://www.fy4.net/03.htm

*Don't* click the above. The page at the other end just tried to install a
virius on my PC.


I just laughed, on my unix desktop...

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]


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