Tiling: where to centre
 

I'm about to tile the bathroom but am unsure about where to centre the
tiles on the long wall against which the bath is placed.

The short wall at the tap end of the bath has a window in it. The
opening into which the window is fixed has the usual step into it at its
bottom and top and on one side. The other side has the long bath wall
running straight into it. In other words, if you look towards the tap
end of the bath there is wall facing you above and below the window, and
to the right of it. There is no wall facing you on the left.

Long winded/convoluted description over, where do I centre the long wall
tiles? Half way between the wall at the non-tap end and the wall just
below the window, or half way from the non-tap end wall and the window
frame?

TIA

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Tiling: where to centre
 

F wrote:
I'm about to tile the bathroom but am unsure about where to centre the
tiles on the long wall against which the bath is placed.

The short wall at the tap end of the bath has a window in it. The
opening into which the window is fixed has the usual step into it at
its bottom and top and on one side. The other side has the long bath
wall running straight into it. In other words, if you look towards
the tap end of the bath there is wall facing you above and below the
window, and to the right of it. There is no wall facing you on the
left.
Long winded/convoluted description over, where do I centre the long
wall tiles? Half way between the wall at the non-tap end and the wall
just below the window, or half way from the non-tap end wall and the
window frame?

TIA

What difference does it make? - you will end up with a cut on all four walls
in the corners, unless you are extremely lucky and full tiles drop in just
right..this doesn't mean all eight edges of the four walls will have a cut,
but at least 4 of them will.

Tiling: where to centre
 

F wrote:
I'm about to tile the bathroom but am unsure about where to centre the
tiles on the long wall against which the bath is placed.

The short wall at the tap end of the bath has a window in it. The
opening into which the window is fixed has the usual step into it at its
bottom and top and on one side. The other side has the long bath wall
running straight into it. In other words, if you look towards the tap
end of the bath there is wall facing you above and below the window, and
to the right of it. There is no wall facing you on the left.

Long winded/convoluted description over, where do I centre the long wall
tiles? Half way between the wall at the non-tap end and the wall just
below the window, or half way from the non-tap end wall and the window
frame?

TIA

--
Frank
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usual practise to lay out so that there are equal cuts on either end
.... or put simply find the centre of the wall and first tile so that
middle of that tile is on this line ... tile one way then other.

Do not be tempted to tile off bath or skirting, this will end up
looking awful as it will probably not be true.
I fix a batten to the wall, ensuring 100% perfect level ... ensuring
that the space below is one whole tile or less throughout. Then tile
up off that, then once set, remove batten and fill in below ..
The actual space will be determined by where one or more horizontal
runs ends up ... for example you wouldn't want to end up with a 10mm
cut above a bath.

Tiling: where to centre
 

On 21/01/2007 22:15 Phil L wrote:

What difference does it make? - you will end up with a cut on all four walls
in the corners

I realise that, but one set of cuts will be of two different widths
depending how far up the wall they are.

It's an aesthetic thing: what will look best.

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Tiling: where to centre
 

On 21/01/2007 23:21 Osprey wrote:

usual practise to lay out so that there are equal cuts on either end

But the wall is not the same length throughout its height. It's shorter
just above the bath and just below the ceiling, but longer over the
height of the window where it runs into the reveal...

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Tiling: where to centre
 

F wrote:
On 21/01/2007 23:21 Osprey wrote:

usual practise to lay out so that there are equal cuts on either end

But the wall is not the same length throughout its height. It's shorter
just above the bath and just below the ceiling, but longer over the
height of the window where it runs into the reveal...


The tiles at the top and 2 edges are left till last and cut to suit.
Make sure the gap is less than a full tile all the way (it can be
difficult to judge visually). If in doubt, just draw the whole thing out
on graph paper. Or, measure height/ width, divide by tile size and see
what's left. If it's nearly a full tile, you're ok. If it's less than
half a tile, consider not starting in the middle. All this is to avoid
small tiles, which are more difficult to cut, more vulnerable, and look
amateurish.

It's usual to start with full tiles at the top of the bath because this
is a focal point and is normally level. The tiles sit on the bath rim
and, depending on its shape, may be up or down a mm or 2. It makes sense
to treat this as "the line" unless it leaves you with bad cuts at the
top. It means tiling downwards when you get to the end of the bath but a
few pins will stop tiles slipping

Tiling: where to centre
 

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:53:33 +0000, F wrote:

The short wall at the tap end of the bath has a window in it. The
opening into which the window is fixed has the usual step into it at
its bottom and top and on one side. The other side has the long bath
wall running straight into it.

ASCII art fixed pitch font required to view correctly. wt = whole tile,
ct = cut tile.

--wt--+--wt--+--wt--+--wt--+--wt--+ct+
| |
|ct |
+ |
|wt |
Window reveal
| |
+ |
|wt |
| |
| |
+--wt--+ct+
|
|wt |
+
|
|wt


Obviously if the reveal isn't deep enough to take a wt you only have a ct
in there... B-)

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

Tiling: where to centre
 

Osprey wrote:

F wrote:
I'm about to tile the bathroom but am unsure about where to centre the
tiles on the long wall against which the bath is placed.

The short wall at the tap end of the bath has a window in it. The
opening into which the window is fixed has the usual step into it at its
bottom and top and on one side. The other side has the long bath wall
running straight into it. In other words, if you look towards the tap
end of the bath there is wall facing you above and below the window, and
to the right of it. There is no wall facing you on the left.

Long winded/convoluted description over, where do I centre the long wall
tiles? Half way between the wall at the non-tap end and the wall just
below the window, or half way from the non-tap end wall and the window
frame?

TIA

--
Frank
(Beware of spam trap - remove the negative)



usual practise to lay out so that there are equal cuts on either end
... or put simply find the centre of the wall and first tile so that
middle of that tile is on this line ... tile one way then other.

Or if the cuts are wrong, put a gap between 2 tiles on the centre line.
One or the other will give you good cuts at the edges.

Do not be tempted to tile off bath or skirting, this will end up
looking awful as it will probably not be true.
I fix a batten to the wall, ensuring 100% perfect level ... ensuring
that the space below is one whole tile or less throughout. Then tile
up off that, then once set, remove batten and fill in below ..
The actual space will be determined by where one or more horizontal
runs ends up ... for example you wouldn't want to end up with a 10mm
cut above a bath.
If you have small cuts just above the bath, if is hard to get the
things waterproof,
due to too many things going on if the same area.
Simon.

Tiling: where to centre
 

On 22 Jan, 00:01, F wrote:
On 21/01/2007 23:21 Osprey wrote:

usual practise to lay out so that there are equal cuts on either endBut the wall is not the same length throughout its height. It's shorter
just above the bath and just below the ceiling, but longer over the
height of the window where it runs into the reveal...

doesn't matter, as long as you centre the first tile