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Default Which dishwasher - semi or fully integrated

Hi, I am planning a new kitchen and am not sure on the type of washer.
Does a semi integrated just a have door and no unit, and a fully
integrated have a unit? Which is preferred?

For the electrics, is is best to install a socket behind the dishwasher
or get one installed above the countertop?

Thank you

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Hi, I am planning a new kitchen and am not sure on the type of washer.
Does a semi integrated just a have door and no unit, and a fully
integrated have a unit? Which is preferred?

For the electrics, is is best to install a socket behind the dishwasher
or get one installed above the countertop?

Thank you

When I last had an integrated one it had no worktop type top and the front
had fittings for a door to match the cupboard doors. However as the door to
the dishwasher opens from the top the door fittings were a bit complex

Not sure what a semi integrated is

Replacements have been standard appliances much cheaper and easier to fit.

I normally site a socket in an adjoining cupboard for any under worktop
appliance.

Cheaper that socket below with isolating switch above, neater than trying to
get the cable through or behind worktop
And sods law dictates that a socket behind will always be at the deepest
part of the appliance so it won't push back far enough to quite line up with
the other doors

Tony


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Hi, I am planning a new kitchen and am not sure on the type of washer.
Does a semi integrated just a have door and no unit, and a fully
integrated have a unit? Which is preferred?

For the electrics, is is best to install a socket behind the dishwasher
or get one installed above the countertop?

Thank you

When I last had an integrated one it had no worktop type top and the front
had fittings for a door to match the cupboard doors. However as the door
to the dishwasher opens from the top the door fittings were a bit complex

Not sure what a semi integrated is

Replacements have been standard appliances much cheaper and easier to fit.

I normally site a socket in an adjoining cupboard for any under worktop
appliance.

Cheaper that socket below with isolating switch above, neater than trying
to get the cable through or behind worktop
And sods law dictates that a socket behind will always be at the deepest
part of the appliance so it won't push back far enough to quite line up
with the other doors

Tony
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I don't recall any integrated appliance apart from an oven needing a unit as
they all need the full height from floor to worktop.

They just need


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I don't recall any integrated appliance apart from an oven needing a unit as
they all need the full height from floor to worktop.


I've fitted a couple of dishwashers which are designed to go
into a cupboard rather than replace one. Creda/Hotpoint have
done one like this, and Homark (B&Q), although these two and
very different in design.

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I don't recall any integrated appliance apart from an oven needing a unit as
they all need the full height from floor to worktop.


I've fitted a couple of dishwashers which are designed to go
into a cupboard rather than replace one. Creda/Hotpoint have
done one like this, and Homark (B&Q), although these two and
very different in design.


Yes we had one of those years ago - seemed very appealing at the time
because as you say, no trashing of the existing kitchen required at all.
However, it was a dreadful thing - always going wrong and very small -
once our first-born arrived on the scene it soon went.

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Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
"TMC" writes:
I don't recall any integrated appliance apart from an oven needing a unit as
they all need the full height from floor to worktop.


I've fitted a couple of dishwashers which are designed to go
into a cupboard rather than replace one. Creda/Hotpoint have
done one like this, and Homark (B&Q), although these two and
very different in design.


Yes we had one of those years ago - seemed very appealing at the time
because as you say, no trashing of the existing kitchen required at all.
However, it was a dreadful thing - always going wrong and very small -
once our first-born arrived on the scene it soon went.


The Creda is ~15 years old. Only fault so far was a new main
motor/pump at 3 years old, as the water seal leaked into the
motor bearing which went rusty.

The Homark is 6 years old. A few years back, it stopped heating
for a few washes, but then mended itself and has worked without
any problems since. I noticed its RFI supressor had exploded
and self-fused at some time in the past, but I didn't notice
when that happened. I know someone in France with one too (under
a different name), and it lasted ~15 years. Drain pump motor
ceased up eventually.

Neither are suitable for a large family. The Homark is used when
the family all come round, but tends to get run a couple of times
for a large meal.

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