Hi all

I am planning to renovate my kitchen. Currently, there is a canopy
style cooker hood which is powered from a socket near the ceiling. At
present this socket is visible, as it above the wall units. I am
planning to replace the current hood with a steel chimney type hood.
The existing socket would end up **inside** the upper section of the
chimney. Is it OK to power the hood from this socket?

thanks

Julian

That is pretty much how mine was done by my electrician when my kitchen was
refitted earlier this year.


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Hi all

I am planning to renovate my kitchen. Currently, there is a canopy
style cooker hood which is powered from a socket near the ceiling. At
present this socket is visible, as it above the wall units. I am
planning to replace the current hood with a steel chimney type hood.
The existing socket would end up **inside** the upper section of the
chimney. Is it OK to power the hood from this socket?

thanks

Julian

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Hi all

I am planning to renovate my kitchen. Currently, there is a canopy
style cooker hood which is powered from a socket near the ceiling. At
present this socket is visible, as it above the wall units. I am
planning to replace the current hood with a steel chimney type hood.
The existing socket would end up **inside** the upper section of the
chimney. Is it OK to power the hood from this socket?

thanks

Julian


It's what I did, and as far as I can see, there's no issue.

I actually moved the socket so it would be inside the chimney section for
visual reasons.

--
Ron

On 2006-12-16 18:00:31 +0000, " said:

Hi all

I am planning to renovate my kitchen. Currently, there is a canopy
style cooker hood which is powered from a socket near the ceiling. At
present this socket is visible, as it above the wall units. I am
planning to replace the current hood with a steel chimney type hood.
The existing socket would end up **inside** the upper section of the
chimney. Is it OK to power the hood from this socket?
thanks

Julian

Is the fan unit and duct from it in the lower part of the hood or is it
right up in the top?

If it's in the top and you are therefore sucking water vapour, greasy
air and all the rest past the fitting, then it's probably not a good
idea. Otherwise if the venting occurs lower down, there shouldn't be
an issue with the fitting becoming damp or dirty, I suppose that
you could replace the standard socket with an exterior type FCU.

However, the switch is supposed to be easily accessible for isolation
purposes. If the fan develops a fault or there is a fire, how are you
going to isolate the fan if the switch is tucked away up the chimney?

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On 2006-12-16 18:00:31 +0000, "
said:

Hi all

I am planning to renovate my kitchen. Currently, there is a canopy
style cooker hood which is powered from a socket near the ceiling. At
present this socket is visible, as it above the wall units. I am
planning to replace the current hood with a steel chimney type hood.
The existing socket would end up **inside** the upper section of the
chimney. Is it OK to power the hood from this socket?
thanks

Julian

Is the fan unit and duct from it in the lower part of the hood or is it
right up in the top?

If it's in the top and you are therefore sucking water vapour, greasy air
and all the rest past the fitting, then it's probably not a good idea.
Otherwise if the venting occurs lower down, there shouldn't be an issue
with the fitting becoming damp or dirty, I suppose that you could
replace the standard socket with an exterior type FCU.

However, the switch is supposed to be easily accessible for isolation
purposes. If the fan develops a fault or there is a fire, how are you
going to isolate the fan if the switch is tucked away up the chimney?



The chimney is typically just an outer shell. The vapours are contailed in
a flexi-duct within the chimney. The wiring is within the chimney,but not
inside the ducting.

Access to inside the chimney is usually fairly trivial: The outer shroud
either pulls off, or its 2 small screws. Yes, it may require use of a tool.
You'd probably want a switch within easy access in this case.


--
Ron

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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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However, the switch is supposed to be easily accessible for isolation
purposes. If the fan develops a fault or there is a fire, how are you
going to isolate the fan if the switch is tucked away up the chimney?

Access to inside the chimney is usually fairly trivial: The outer shroud
either pulls off, or its 2 small screws. Yes, it may require use of a tool.
You'd probably want a switch within easy access in this case.

There's no regulatory requirement for emergency switching in
this case, so the switch doesn't need to be easy to access.
It just needs to be accessible by someone performing maintenance
on the unit, and should be accessible before any access is gained
to potentially live or moving parts.

I usually put cooker hood FCU's behind an adjacent wall cupboard,
with a cut out in the panel back for access.

--
Andrew Gabriel

On 16 Dec 2006 10:00:31 -0800 someone who may be
" wrote this:-

The existing socket would end up **inside** the upper section of the
chimney. Is it OK to power the hood from this socket?

As it is fixed equipment it would be preferable to feed it from a
switched fused connection unit. These are much neater.

Personally I would install it outside the hood, but there is an
argument that it can be installed inside the outer shell.


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:00:31 -0800, wrote:

Hi all

I am planning to renovate my kitchen. Currently, there is a canopy
style cooker hood which is powered from a socket near the ceiling. At
present this socket is visible, as it above the wall units. I am
planning to replace the current hood with a steel chimney type hood.
The existing socket would end up **inside** the upper section of the
chimney. Is it OK to power the hood from this socket?

thanks

Julian

A good way to do this is to use an unswitched socket in the chimney this
means that you can use the plug supplied on the extractor.

Outside the chimney put the FCU with the correct (3A) fuse and use this to
supply the unswitched socket. By the book, you should really label both the
FCU and the unswitched socket as needed to say what they do.

--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html
Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html
Gas Fitting Standards Docs he http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards

Ed Sirett wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:00:31 -0800, wrote:

Hi all

I am planning to renovate my kitchen. Currently, there is a canopy
style cooker hood which is powered from a socket near the ceiling. At
present this socket is visible, as it above the wall units. I am
planning to replace the current hood with a steel chimney type hood.
The existing socket would end up **inside** the upper section of the
chimney. Is it OK to power the hood from this socket?

thanks

Julian

A good way to do this is to use an unswitched socket in the chimney this
means that you can use the plug supplied on the extractor.

Outside the chimney put the FCU with the correct (3A) fuse and use this to
supply the unswitched socket. By the book, you should really label both the
FCU and the unswitched socket as needed to say what they do.

--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html
Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html
Gas Fitting Standards Docs he http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards

Thanks to everyone for the advice, this is very helpful!

Julian

Ed Sirett wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:00:31 -0800, wrote:

Hi all

I am planning to renovate my kitchen. Currently, there is a canopy
style cooker hood which is powered from a socket near the ceiling. At
present this socket is visible, as it above the wall units. I am
planning to replace the current hood with a steel chimney type hood.
The existing socket would end up **inside** the upper section of the
chimney. Is it OK to power the hood from this socket?

thanks

Julian

A good way to do this is to use an unswitched socket in the chimney this
means that you can use the plug supplied on the extractor.

Outside the chimney put the FCU with the correct (3A) fuse and use this to
supply the unswitched socket. By the book, you should really label both the
FCU and the unswitched socket as needed to say what they do.

--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html
Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html
Gas Fitting Standards Docs he http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards