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[email protected] October 30th 06 02:44 PM

Double Glazing
 
I am due to move into a new house in a couple of weeks which has a
rotten front bay window which I will be looking to replace very soon.
I am wondering the cheapest way to replace this with double glazing and
was hopeing that someone may be able to give me some advice with the
following questions..

which tends to be cheaper, large national companies or local tradesmen?
is it better to measure and buy the wondows first then just get someone
in to fit them?
is it difficult to fit your own double glazing? and if so do you need
to meet any building regulations.

also if anyone has any idea approximatelly a bay window with the
following rough measurements would be to fit that would also be very
helpful:

large pane approx 1800 mm * 1500mm
2 * small panes 750 mm * 1500mm

thanks in advance for your help.


David Hansen October 30th 06 02:56 PM

Double Glazing
 
On 30 Oct 2006 06:44:31 -0800 someone who may be
wrote this:-

I am due to move into a new house in a couple of weeks which has a
rotten front bay window which I will be looking to replace very soon.
I am wondering the cheapest way to replace this with double glazing and
was hopeing that someone may be able to give me some advice with the
following questions..

which tends to be cheaper, large national companies or local tradesmen?


The latter.

is it better to measure and buy the wondows first then just get someone
in to fit them?


Depends. However, if you don't measure them then you are
transferring the risk to your builder.

is it difficult to fit your own double glazing?


No, the rebates are deeper then for single glazing though. Note that
in a bay window one needs to hold the roof of the bay up while the
windows are installed.

Note also that if you live in one of several sorts of area then it
is best to converse with the council first regarding planning
permission.


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Codswallop October 30th 06 06:08 PM

Double Glazing
 
wrote in message
oups.com...
I am due to move into a new house in a couple of weeks which has a
rotten front bay window which I will be looking to replace very soon.
I am wondering the cheapest way to replace this with double glazing and
was hopeing that someone may be able to give me some advice with the
following questions..

which tends to be cheaper, large national companies or local tradesmen?
is it better to measure and buy the wondows first then just get someone
in to fit them?
is it difficult to fit your own double glazing? and if so do you need
to meet any building regulations.

also if anyone has any idea approximatelly a bay window with the
following rough measurements would be to fit that would also be very
helpful:

large pane approx 1800 mm * 1500mm
2 * small panes 750 mm * 1500mm

thanks in advance for your help.


Local tradesmen tend to be cheaper as they haven't got the large overheads
and salespersons' commission to pay out.

You can measure them yourself if you know how, but the margin of error is
only plus or minus a very few millimetres and if you get the measurements
wrong then you are in deep ****. If the current windows are box sash then
you don't measure into the outside opening, you measure the inside opening,
and the old frames are a bugger to get out. Depending on the height from the
floor of the lowest part of glazing you may need toughened glass for the
inner panes. If this bay is on an upper floor then the new windows must meet
fire escape regulations.

If the bay hasn't got masonry columns supporting the roof you will have to
prop the roof up while you remove the old windows, otherwise the lot may
fall down, and you must insert new supports for the new frames. The
installation must meet FENSA requirements http://www.fensa.co.uk, and
planning permission is required if in a conservation area and if the council
has any regulations. The Building Control Officer at your local council will
advise regarding building regs and planning permission. The type of
questions you have asked seem to indicate that you don't have much
experience of what is involved.

You can get an idea of supply-only prices he http://www.u-fit.co.uk/

Some useful websites:
http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/replacewindows.htm
http://www.doubleglazing.com/diy_insiders_guide.htm
http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/double_glazing.htm



Phil L October 30th 06 07:40 PM

Double Glazing
 
wrote:
I am due to move into a new house in a couple of weeks which has a
rotten front bay window which I will be looking to replace very soon.
I am wondering the cheapest way to replace this with double glazing
and was hopeing that someone may be able to give me some advice with
the following questions..

which tends to be cheaper, large national companies or local
tradesmen? is it better to measure and buy the wondows first then
just get someone in to fit them?
is it difficult to fit your own double glazing? and if so do you need
to meet any building regulations.

also if anyone has any idea approximatelly a bay window with the
following rough measurements would be to fit that would also be very
helpful:

large pane approx 1800 mm * 1500mm
2 * small panes 750 mm * 1500mm

thanks in advance for your help.


ring four or five local tradesmen for quotations, don't bother attempting to
measure the frames yourself, otherwise whatever goes wrong at a later date
is down to your poor measuring abilities....I would guestimate this bay
would cost no more than 2 grand (fitted) with K glass, depending on where
you are in the country.
You can fit them yorself but you then need to have them checked by BC and a
bay window is not a good place to start if you've never fited a window
before.



smokeyd November 1st 06 03:07 PM

Double Glazing
 

Phil L wrote:
wrote:
I am due to move into a new house in a couple of weeks which has a
rotten front bay window which I will be looking to replace very soon.
I am wondering the cheapest way to replace this with double glazing
and was hopeing that someone may be able to give me some advice with
the following questions..

which tends to be cheaper, large national companies or local
tradesmen? is it better to measure and buy the wondows first then
just get someone in to fit them?
is it difficult to fit your own double glazing? and if so do you need
to meet any building regulations.

also if anyone has any idea approximatelly a bay window with the
following rough measurements would be to fit that would also be very
helpful:

large pane approx 1800 mm * 1500mm
2 * small panes 750 mm * 1500mm

thanks in advance for your help.


ring four or five local tradesmen for quotations, don't bother attempting to
measure the frames yourself, otherwise whatever goes wrong at a later date
is down to your poor measuring abilities....I would guestimate this bay
would cost no more than 2 grand (fitted) with K glass, depending on where
you are in the country.
You can fit them yorself but you then need to have them checked by BC and a
bay window is not a good place to start if you've never fited a window
before.


thanks for all of your help. propping up roofs etc sounds like hard
work so i think i will have to get someone in. i got a rough quote
from a trademan for the bay window and one upstairs for 2 grand. just
cant beleive how much double glaxing costs! i did a rough measurement
and looked online for the wondows and found that they cost around 700
quid. the guy also said that he could have it done in a day so that
would mean £1300 for a days work! i am going to get some more quotes..


Codswallop November 1st 06 04:42 PM

Double Glazing
 
"smokeyd" wrote:
thanks for all of your help. propping up roofs etc sounds like hard
work so i think i will have to get someone in. i got a rough quote
from a trademan for the bay window and one upstairs for 2 grand. just
cant beleive how much double glaxing costs! i did a rough measurement
and looked online for the wondows and found that they cost around 700
quid. the guy also said that he could have it done in a day so that
would mean £1300 for a days work! i am going to get some more quotes..
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The online quotes are just for the frames and sealed units, and don't
include trims, window sills, expanding foam, glue, sealant and bay window
corner roof supports if needed. They are not expensive items but they have
to be bought.




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