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flash October 9th 06 02:45 PM

Steel framed house
 
Hi,
I'm hoping that someone here can help?
I'm thinking of buying a house that I've been told is constructed with a
steel frame (I think they said it was a Hawksley type!). Various people have
tried to put me off, including my current mortgage lender, because they say
there are problems with the design.
I'd appreciate any other points of view on it.
I believe it was built sometime in the Seventies!

TIA



Phil L October 9th 06 09:02 PM

Steel framed house
 
flash wrote:
Hi,
I'm hoping that someone here can help?
I'm thinking of buying a house that I've been told is constructed
with a steel frame (I think they said it was a Hawksley type!).
Various people have tried to put me off, including my current
mortgage lender, because they say there are problems with the design.
I'd appreciate any other points of view on it.
I believe it was built sometime in the Seventies!

TIA


Walk away.

These houses were built as cheaply as possible, there's an estate of them
around here - most of them have a corrugated steel roof.
Someone I know purchased one (very cheap) mainly for the massive rear
garden....the 'walls' are chicken wire mesh, rendered and pebbledashed
(outside) and the same inside but skimmed....this is only downstairs -
upstairs is the same as the roof - corrugated steel.
Their only advantage is the price, they're as cheap as chips, other than
that, they're horrid.
If pricewise it's the only thing you can afford, then go for it, but bear in
mind that they don't go up in value very much due to their construction



The Natural Philosopher October 10th 06 12:52 AM

Steel framed house
 
Phil L wrote:
flash wrote:
Hi,
I'm hoping that someone here can help?
I'm thinking of buying a house that I've been told is constructed
with a steel frame (I think they said it was a Hawksley type!).
Various people have tried to put me off, including my current
mortgage lender, because they say there are problems with the design.
I'd appreciate any other points of view on it.
I believe it was built sometime in the Seventies!

TIA


Walk away.

These houses were built as cheaply as possible, there's an estate of them
around here - most of them have a corrugated steel roof.
Someone I know purchased one (very cheap) mainly for the massive rear
garden....the 'walls' are chicken wire mesh, rendered and pebbledashed
(outside) and the same inside but skimmed....this is only downstairs -
upstairs is the same as the roof - corrugated steel.
Their only advantage is the price, they're as cheap as chips, other than
that, they're horrid.
If pricewise it's the only thing you can afford, then go for it, but bear in
mind that they don't go up in value very much due to their construction


OTOH calculate what a decent house at £60 a sq foot construction would
be worth on the same site.

Then sweet talk the bank manager into a loan, knock the steel down and
rebuild. You MIGHT make a profit.


Peter Ashby October 10th 06 02:27 PM

Steel framed house
 
flash wrote:

Hi,
I'm hoping that someone here can help?
I'm thinking of buying a house that I've been told is constructed with a
steel frame (I think they said it was a Hawksley type!). Various people have
tried to put me off, including my current mortgage lender, because they say
there are problems with the design.
I'd appreciate any other points of view on it.
I believe it was built sometime in the Seventies!


There's an estate of them near here, owners can't sell because no one
will lend on them. Problem as I understand it is there is no cheap or
easy method to reliably test the condition of the steel framing so the
lender can't tell the condition of the property.

Peter

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Andrew Mawson October 10th 06 02:43 PM

Steel framed house
 

"Peter Ashby" wrote in message
k...
flash wrote:

Hi,
I'm hoping that someone here can help?
I'm thinking of buying a house that I've been told is constructed

with a
steel frame (I think they said it was a Hawksley type!). Various

people have
tried to put me off, including my current mortgage lender, because

they say
there are problems with the design.
I'd appreciate any other points of view on it.
I believe it was built sometime in the Seventies!


There's an estate of them near here, owners can't sell because no

one
will lend on them. Problem as I understand it is there is no cheap

or
easy method to reliably test the condition of the steel framing so

the
lender can't tell the condition of the property.

Peter

--


Price of scrap steel is high at the moment - knock it down and start
over building a proper house

AWEM



Chris October 10th 06 04:16 PM

Steel framed house
 

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
OTOH calculate what a decent house at £60 a sq foot construction would
be worth on the same site.

Then sweet talk the bank manager into a loan, knock the steel down and
rebuild. You MIGHT make a profit.


I'd imagine its a semi tho.


The Natural Philosopher October 10th 06 04:24 PM

Steel framed house
 
Owain wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Then sweet talk the bank manager into a loan, knock the steel down and
rebuild. You MIGHT make a profit.


And steel doesn't perform well in a fire...

Owain


Marginally better than softwood though.

[email protected] October 10th 06 04:30 PM

Steel framed house
 


On Oct 9, 1:45 pm, "flash" wrote:
Hi,
I'm hoping that someone here can help?
I'm thinking of buying a house that I've been told is constructed with a
steel frame (I think they said it was a Hawksley type!). Various people have
tried to put me off, including my current mortgage lender, because they say
there are problems with the design.
I'd appreciate any other points of view on it.
I believe it was built sometime in the Seventies!

TIA


We had a problem where the people buying our house were trying to sell
a steel framed house. Their purchaser's mortgage lender (C&G) had just
been taken over by Lloyds who had parachuted in their own surveyors and
mortgage advisors who kicked up a fuss. Once they found a surveyor and
advisor with local knowledge and experience who understood the issues
and knew what they were talking about, the transaction went through
very quickly.

MBQ


Peter Ashby October 10th 06 05:36 PM

Steel framed house
 
Andrew Mawson wrote:

"Peter Ashby" wrote in message
k...
flash wrote:

Hi,
I'm hoping that someone here can help?
I'm thinking of buying a house that I've been told is constructed

with a
steel frame (I think they said it was a Hawksley type!). Various

people have
tried to put me off, including my current mortgage lender, because

they say
there are problems with the design.
I'd appreciate any other points of view on it.
I believe it was built sometime in the Seventies!


There's an estate of them near here, owners can't sell because no

one
will lend on them. Problem as I understand it is there is no cheap

or
easy method to reliably test the condition of the steel framing so

the
lender can't tell the condition of the property.

Peter

--


Price of scrap steel is high at the moment - knock it down and start
over building a proper house


Sounds good, though might not give good yeilds if sitting in a sea of
other steel frame houses. Here most are semis so that solution is not so
easy. Some people have had cladding added in an attempt to 'disguise'
that its steel framed. Doesn't really wash if the adjoined neighbour
doesn't do it though.

Peter

--
Add my middle initial to email me. It has become attached to a country

The Natural Philosopher October 10th 06 08:05 PM

Steel framed house
 
Owain wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Then sweet talk the bank manager into a loan, knock the steel down
and rebuild. You MIGHT make a profit.
And steel doesn't perform well in a fire...

Marginally better than softwood though.


I was thinking for insurance purposes ...

Still better than softwood.

If its been built to regs. Steel needs fireproofing thats all.


Owain


Phil L October 10th 06 08:41 PM

Steel framed house
 
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Phil L wrote:
flash wrote:
Hi,
I'm hoping that someone here can help?
I'm thinking of buying a house that I've been told is constructed
with a steel frame (I think they said it was a Hawksley type!).
Various people have tried to put me off, including my current
mortgage lender, because they say there are problems with the
design. I'd appreciate any other points of view on it.
I believe it was built sometime in the Seventies!

TIA


Walk away.

These houses were built as cheaply as possible, there's an estate of
them around here - most of them have a corrugated steel roof.
Someone I know purchased one (very cheap) mainly for the massive rear
garden....the 'walls' are chicken wire mesh, rendered and
pebbledashed (outside) and the same inside but skimmed....this is
only downstairs - upstairs is the same as the roof - corrugated
steel. Their only advantage is the price, they're as cheap as chips,
other
than that, they're horrid.
If pricewise it's the only thing you can afford, then go for it, but
bear in mind that they don't go up in value very much due to their
construction

OTOH calculate what a decent house at £60 a sq foot construction would
be worth on the same site.

Then sweet talk the bank manager into a loan, knock the steel down and
rebuild. You MIGHT make a profit.


Not possible I'm afraid, these types of houses were built as cheaply as
posible and are usually in pairs or blocks of four or six...therefore the
steelwork frame is 'shared'.

The OP doesn't stipulate whether it's a semi or a mid terraced, but I'm
prepared to wager the larger of my gonads on it being a semi.
:-p




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