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Gordon Henderson October 7th 06 09:47 PM

Chainsaws...
 
I need to buy a chainsaw, wondered if the collective had any
thoughts on the STIHL brand? (I'm looking at the MS210 model
if that makes any difference)

This is just for cutting logs & stuff for home use, nothing much
more. I already have a little B&D electric one, but it's not much use
in the middle of a wood. It's also a bit old and really needs a new
chain (cheaper than a new saw, but since I need something a bit more
portable...)

Cheers,

Gordon

Vortex October 7th 06 10:52 PM

Chainsaws...
 

"Gordon Henderson" wrote in message
...
I need to buy a chainsaw, wondered if the collective had any
thoughts on the STIHL brand? (I'm looking at the MS210 model
if that makes any difference)

This is just for cutting logs & stuff for home use, nothing much
more. I already have a little B&D electric one, but it's not much use
in the middle of a wood. It's also a bit old and really needs a new
chain (cheaper than a new saw, but since I need something a bit more
portable...)

Cheers,

Gordon


I have a small 15" Husqvarna (136?) and I have to say it has been faultless.
In retrospect I would have got a slightly more powerful one but it's too
late now.

The most useful "sister tool" you could possibly purchase is a Dremel and
the Dremel chainsaw sharpening accessory.

David



TonyK October 8th 06 07:37 AM

Chainsaws...
 

"Gordon Henderson" wrote in message
...
I need to buy a chainsaw, wondered if the collective had any
thoughts on the STIHL brand? (I'm looking at the MS210 model
if that makes any difference)

This is just for cutting logs & stuff for home use, nothing much
more. I already have a little B&D electric one, but it's not much use
in the middle of a wood. It's also a bit old and really needs a new
chain (cheaper than a new saw, but since I need something a bit more
portable...)

Cheers,

Gordon


STIHL or Husqvarna. Both are excellent, I've got lots of bits by both inc.
chainsaws and probably flip a coin to choose. Might be worth looking for
something a bit more powerful to give you flexibility and easy of use but
they can get very expensive when you go above 40cc.





The Natural Philosopher October 8th 06 10:43 AM

Chainsaws...
 
Gordon Henderson wrote:
I need to buy a chainsaw, wondered if the collective had any
thoughts on the STIHL brand? (I'm looking at the MS210 model
if that makes any difference)


Wouldn't get any other. Easy starters, very powerful and well made bits
of kit.


Also try and use stihl 2 stroke oil. It is good enough to be used in low
concentrations so much less smoke.

Get plenty of chain oil - mine needs a tank of that every other tank of
'petroil'..and get a spare chain, cos then you always can have a sharp
spare.


This is just for cutting logs & stuff for home use, nothing much
more. I already have a little B&D electric one, but it's not much use
in the middle of a wood. It's also a bit old and really needs a new
chain (cheaper than a new saw, but since I need something a bit more
portable...)

Cheers,

Gordon


The Natural Philosopher October 8th 06 10:45 AM

Chainsaws...
 
TonyK wrote:
"Gordon Henderson" wrote in message
...
I need to buy a chainsaw, wondered if the collective had any
thoughts on the STIHL brand? (I'm looking at the MS210 model
if that makes any difference)

This is just for cutting logs & stuff for home use, nothing much
more. I already have a little B&D electric one, but it's not much use
in the middle of a wood. It's also a bit old and really needs a new
chain (cheaper than a new saw, but since I need something a bit more
portable...)

Cheers,

Gordon


STIHL or Husqvarna. Both are excellent, I've got lots of bits by both inc.
chainsaws and probably flip a coin to choose. Might be worth looking for
something a bit more powerful to give you flexibility and easy of use but
they can get very expensive when you go above 40cc.




I think it is a usage thing. Yes. I have a lightweight tiddler and it
struggles on big stuff but its a lot less tiring in the smaller stuff,
which is mainly what I have. Ive got a Stihl hedge trimmer and boy, an
hour of that and I am aching and my fingers are tingling from it.

[email protected] October 9th 06 11:46 AM

Chainsaws...
 

Gordon Henderson wrote:
I need to buy a chainsaw, wondered if the collective had any
thoughts on the STIHL brand? (I'm looking at the MS210 model
if that makes any difference)

This is just for cutting logs & stuff for home use, nothing much
more. I already have a little B&D electric one, but it's not much use
in the middle of a wood. It's also a bit old and really needs a new
chain (cheaper than a new saw, but since I need something a bit more
portable...)


I have a small Stihl one and it's a lovely piece of kit. It made very
light work of chopping through a pile of oak the other day! It does
have a tendancy to leak chain oil all over the place if not stored a
specific way up.. although this might be the same for other saws ?

I got mine from worldofpower.co.uk whom I would be happy to use again
and recommend.

PS.

Mine kicked back at me the other day, which was a bit scary.. I am
going to get a face gaurd before using it again ( since I can't trust
myself to respect it enough!)




--
Simon


freddyuk October 9th 06 03:37 PM

[quote=The Natural Philosopher]TonyK wrote:[color=blue][i]
"Gordon Henderson" wrote in message
...
I need to buy a chainsaw, wondered if the collective had any
thoughts on the STIHL brand? (I'm looking at the MS210 model
if that makes any difference)

This is just for cutting logs & stuff for home use, nothing much
more. I already have a little B&D electric one, but it's not much use
in the middle of a wood. It's also a bit old and really needs a new
chain (cheaper than a new saw, but since I need something a bit more
portable...)

Cheers,

Gordon


Just bought one off the net (new). Great price and superb performance!! Just for log cutting and trees up to approx 300mm with 16 inch blade, its the dogs.

I did get an Aldi special on the cheap and sold it on Ebay soon after as complete rubbish.The Stihl is a different class out performs a cheap saw several times over. And no i dont work for them.

Nick October 9th 06 08:07 PM

Chainsaws...
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

Gordon Henderson wrote:
I need to buy a chainsaw, wondered if the collective had any
thoughts on the STIHL brand? (I'm looking at the MS210 model
if that makes any difference)

This is just for cutting logs & stuff for home use, nothing much
more. I already have a little B&D electric one, but it's not much use
in the middle of a wood. It's also a bit old and really needs a new
chain (cheaper than a new saw, but since I need something a bit more
portable...)


I have a small Stihl one and it's a lovely piece of kit. It made very
light work of chopping through a pile of oak the other day! It does
have a tendancy to leak chain oil all over the place if not stored a
specific way up.. although this might be the same for other saws ?

I got mine from worldofpower.co.uk whom I would be happy to use again
and recommend.

PS.

Mine kicked back at me the other day, which was a bit scary.. I am
going to get a face gaurd before using it again ( since I can't trust
myself to respect it enough!)



You won't go wrong with a Stihl chainsaw. We use several with bar lengths
14" to 40 something inch. With intelligent care, use and maintenance they
will last for many years. Our oldest was bought in 1984 and is still in
regular use. It is worth having a spare chain or two, also worth having the
files and guides to sharpen them. Once you get to know how to sharpen a
chain it is but a few minutes work. It is useful to be able to do this 'in
the field'. Makes the job easier and much safer.
If your saw kicked back something was at fault with either the operator or
the saw. A face guard is of course essential, as is other PPE, but this is
not an alternative for knowledge and a well tuned saw.
Good luck, but take proper care and attention.
N.



[email protected] October 9th 06 09:45 PM

Chainsaws...
 

Nick wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Gordon Henderson wrote:
I need to buy a chainsaw, wondered if the collective had any
thoughts on the STIHL brand? (I'm looking at the MS210 model
if that makes any difference)

This is just for cutting logs & stuff for home use, nothing much
more. I already have a little B&D electric one, but it's not much use
in the middle of a wood. It's also a bit old and really needs a new
chain (cheaper than a new saw, but since I need something a bit more
portable...)


I have a small Stihl one and it's a lovely piece of kit. It made very
light work of chopping through a pile of oak the other day! It does
have a tendancy to leak chain oil all over the place if not stored a
specific way up.. although this might be the same for other saws ?

I got mine from worldofpower.co.uk whom I would be happy to use again
and recommend.

PS.

Mine kicked back at me the other day, which was a bit scary.. I am
going to get a face gaurd before using it again ( since I can't trust
myself to respect it enough!)



You won't go wrong with a Stihl chainsaw. We use several with bar lengths
14" to 40 something inch. With intelligent care, use and maintenance they
will last for many years. Our oldest was bought in 1984 and is still in
regular use. It is worth having a spare chain or two, also worth having the
files and guides to sharpen them. Once you get to know how to sharpen a
chain it is but a few minutes work. It is useful to be able to do this 'in
the field'. Makes the job easier and much safer.
If your saw kicked back something was at fault with either the operator or
the saw. A face guard is of course essential, as is other PPE, but this is
not an alternative for knowledge and a well tuned saw.
Good luck, but take proper care and attention.
N.


thanks for that advice, you are obviously experienced with them, the
kickback was only a little one.. it just made me realise that the PPE
is not really optional, like you are saying. Don't want to end up with
a chainsaw stuck in my head really.

Si


[email protected] October 9th 06 09:51 PM

Chainsaws...
 

wrote:
Nick wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Gordon Henderson wrote:
I need to buy a chainsaw, wondered if the collective had any
thoughts on the STIHL brand? (I'm looking at the MS210 model
if that makes any difference)

This is just for cutting logs & stuff for home use, nothing much
more. I already have a little B&D electric one, but it's not much use
in the middle of a wood. It's also a bit old and really needs a new
chain (cheaper than a new saw, but since I need something a bit more
portable...)

I have a small Stihl one and it's a lovely piece of kit. It made very
light work of chopping through a pile of oak the other day! It does
have a tendancy to leak chain oil all over the place if not stored a
specific way up.. although this might be the same for other saws ?

I got mine from worldofpower.co.uk whom I would be happy to use again
and recommend.

PS.

Mine kicked back at me the other day, which was a bit scary.. I am
going to get a face gaurd before using it again ( since I can't trust
myself to respect it enough!)



You won't go wrong with a Stihl chainsaw. We use several with bar lengths
14" to 40 something inch. With intelligent care, use and maintenance they
will last for many years. Our oldest was bought in 1984 and is still in
regular use. It is worth having a spare chain or two, also worth having the
files and guides to sharpen them. Once you get to know how to sharpen a
chain it is but a few minutes work. It is useful to be able to do this 'in
the field'. Makes the job easier and much safer.
If your saw kicked back something was at fault with either the operator or
the saw. A face guard is of course essential, as is other PPE, but this is
not an alternative for knowledge and a well tuned saw.
Good luck, but take proper care and attention.
N.


thanks for that advice, you are obviously experienced with them, the
kickback was only a little one.. it just made me realise that the PPE
is not really optional, like you are saying. Don't want to end up with
a chainsaw stuck in my head really.

Si



oops bad form/ stupidity .. mine is the Husqvarna 136 not a stihl
one.. as you were..


Nick October 9th 06 10:38 PM

Chainsaws...
 

snip
thanks for that advice, you are obviously experienced with them, the
kickback was only a little one.. it just made me realise that the PPE
is not really optional, like you are saying. Don't want to end up with
a chainsaw stuck in my head really.

Si



oops bad form/ stupidity .. mine is the Husqvarna 136 not a stihl
one.. as you were..

No problem.
Makes little difference whether it's Stihl, Husqvarna or Joe Bloggs. A saw
chain does not differentiate between wood, body parts etc. and takes no
prisoners. You wouldn't use a blunt Stanley or bread knife. Imagine either
of those working at, IIRC, 80 m/sec!
I would very highly recommend a Stihl saw; no connection btw, just a very
satisfied user of many years.
They are well designed and well made. Not the cheapest but will still be
operating at peak when others have bitten the dust, given care and
attention. Perhaps of interest, certainly to me, is that parts are readily
obtainable even for machines 20+ years old.
Just a couple of comments on Stihl saws generally which are entirely my own
preferences: I don't much like the quick tensioner, I've found it can slip
and allow the chain to slacken (when it gets a little worn after several
hundred hours use) but not dangerously so. I much prefer to slacken 1 or 2
nuts and use a screw tensioner, this takes but a few seconds and gives one a
better feel for the chain tension. Picco chains are excellent when sharp but
dull rapidly and the geometry is such that precise hand sharpening is not
easy. I use Oregon chains and sharpening eqpt on all our saws.
Standardisation aids my old grey cells immensely.
Good luck, hope you make lots of chips for many years.
N



The Natural Philosopher October 9th 06 11:54 PM

Chainsaws...
 
wrote:
Nick wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
Gordon Henderson wrote:
I need to buy a chainsaw, wondered if the collective had any
thoughts on the STIHL brand? (I'm looking at the MS210 model
if that makes any difference)

This is just for cutting logs & stuff for home use, nothing much
more. I already have a little B&D electric one, but it's not much use
in the middle of a wood. It's also a bit old and really needs a new
chain (cheaper than a new saw, but since I need something a bit more
portable...)
I have a small Stihl one and it's a lovely piece of kit. It made very
light work of chopping through a pile of oak the other day! It does
have a tendancy to leak chain oil all over the place if not stored a
specific way up.. although this might be the same for other saws ?

I got mine from worldofpower.co.uk whom I would be happy to use again
and recommend.

PS.

Mine kicked back at me the other day, which was a bit scary.. I am
going to get a face gaurd before using it again ( since I can't trust
myself to respect it enough!)



You won't go wrong with a Stihl chainsaw. We use several with bar lengths
14" to 40 something inch. With intelligent care, use and maintenance they
will last for many years. Our oldest was bought in 1984 and is still in
regular use. It is worth having a spare chain or two, also worth having the
files and guides to sharpen them. Once you get to know how to sharpen a
chain it is but a few minutes work. It is useful to be able to do this 'in
the field'. Makes the job easier and much safer.
If your saw kicked back something was at fault with either the operator or
the saw. A face guard is of course essential, as is other PPE, but this is
not an alternative for knowledge and a well tuned saw.
Good luck, but take proper care and attention.
N.


thanks for that advice, you are obviously experienced with them, the
kickback was only a little one.. it just made me realise that the PPE
is not really optional, like you are saying. Don't want to end up with
a chainsaw stuck in my head really.


The other thing is to be conscious of the arc the saw kicks back at, and
keep your face out of it at all times.

With a small saw, its not too hard to control a kickback. With the big
stuff its something not to take chances with though.

Si


[email protected] October 10th 06 09:14 AM

Chainsaws...
 
Nick wrote:
Just a couple of comments on Stihl saws generally which are entirely my own
preferences: I don't much like the quick tensioner, I've found it can slip
and allow the chain to slacken (when it gets a little worn after several
hundred hours use) but not dangerously so. I much prefer to slacken 1 or 2
nuts and use a screw tensioner, this takes but a few seconds and gives one a
better feel for the chain tension.


Those are exactly my thoughts about the quick tensioner on my (OK,
much less 'professional') Bosch electric chainsaw, it's much less
easy to set the tension than the 'old fashioned' screwdriver and
spanner adjustment on my older and smaller B&D chainsaw.

--
Chris Green


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