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mogga September 15th 06 10:51 AM

Gas in new build flats?
 
Someone's been told by 3 developers that "the building regs won't let
them put them in new build flats"

Is that true?
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sm_jamieson September 15th 06 11:04 AM

Gas in new build flats?
 

mogga wrote:
Someone's been told by 3 developers that "the building regs won't let
them put them in new build flats"

Is that true?
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Thats all very vague.
I think you may have to explain a bit more.
If you mean, gas not allowed to be piped into new-build flats, it
clearly must be nonsense.
Simon.


Christian McArdle September 15th 06 11:29 AM

Gas in new build flats?
 
Someone's been told by 3 developers that "the building regs won't let
them put them in new build flats"


I have not been able to find any reference to a gas installation ban for
tall buildings anywhere in the building regulations or the Gas Safety
(Installation and Use) Regulations.

What I have found out, is that after the Ronan Point collapse, tall
buildings (over 5 stories) had two options. They either had to be able to
cope with explosions of 5psi, or alternatively, cope with explosions of
2.5psi and have the gas supply removed.

I can find nothing to suggest (and plenty to suggest otherwise) that new
build flats can't have a gas supply, provided that any building over 5
storeys meets the 5psi explosion resistance requirement. I believe the
option to survive only 2.5psi and have no gas might only be applicable to
existing buildings (in 1968).

Christian.



mogga September 15th 06 11:31 AM

Gas in new build flats?
 
On 15 Sep 2006 03:04:01 -0700, "sm_jamieson"
wrote:


mogga wrote:
Someone's been told by 3 developers that "the building regs won't let
them put them in new build flats"

Is that true?
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Thats all very vague.
I think you may have to explain a bit more.
If you mean, gas not allowed to be piped into new-build flats, it
clearly must be nonsense.


Yes having a gas supply - so you could have central heating. This
geezer said they all had storage heaters.
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Christian McArdle September 15th 06 11:40 AM

Gas in new build flats?
 
Yes having a gas supply - so you could have central heating. This
geezer said they all had storage heaters.


I get the impression that the Ronan Point collapse, which led to thousands
of gas systems being stripped out of high rise blocks throughout the country
(either because of the 5psi requirement, or due to resident's concerns), has
led to an urban myth that gas installations in flats are not allowed.

Of course, there might be a restriction that I haven't heard of, but I doubt
it.

Christian.



Rexx Magnus September 15th 06 01:42 PM

Gas in new build flats?
 
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:40:02 GMT, Christian McArdle wrote:

Yes having a gas supply - so you could have central heating. This
geezer said they all had storage heaters.


I get the impression that the Ronan Point collapse, which led to
thousands of gas systems being stripped out of high rise blocks
throughout the country (either because of the 5psi requirement, or
due to resident's concerns), has led to an urban myth that gas
installations in flats are not allowed.

Of course, there might be a restriction that I haven't heard of,
but I doubt it.

Christian.



We had gas specified for a block of 3 storey flats, and it all went
through the building regs fine.

Londoncityslicker September 15th 06 02:52 PM

Gas in new build flats?
 

Rexx Magnus wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:40:02 GMT, Christian McArdle wrote:

Yes having a gas supply - so you could have central heating. This
geezer said they all had storage heaters.


I get the impression that the Ronan Point collapse, which led to
thousands of gas systems being stripped out of high rise blocks
throughout the country (either because of the 5psi requirement, or
due to resident's concerns), has led to an urban myth that gas
installations in flats are not allowed.

Of course, there might be a restriction that I haven't heard of,
but I doubt it.

Christian.



We had gas specified for a block of 3 storey flats, and it all went
through the building regs fine.


I live on the tenth floor of a newish build (6 years old) and we've got
gas fired central heating and cooking.

I suspect that it's more to do with reducing the developers costs.
Putting in storage heaters is cheaper and easier. Simple as that.

A.


Guy King September 15th 06 04:52 PM

Gas in new build flats?
 
The message . com
from "Londoncityslicker" contains these words:

Putting in storage heaters is cheaper and easier.


And considerably nastier. There's an offshoot of the estate where I live
that has no gas supply. The houses are considerably cheaper!

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Dave Liquorice September 15th 06 08:30 PM

Gas in new build flats?
 
On 15 Sep 2006 06:52:13 -0700, Londoncityslicker wrote:

I suspect that it's more to do with reducing the developers costs.
Putting in storage heaters is cheaper and easier. Simple as that.


Not to mention that building to 5psi over pressure will be more expensive
than 2.5psi over pressure. I used to live in a flat with gas heating but
it was only 4 floors (basement, ground 1st & 2nd), it was also a
conversion with thick stone walls.

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Guy King September 16th 06 12:29 AM

Gas in new build flats?
 
The message
from Owain contains these words:

It's usually *a* storage heater in the lounge. Storage heaters are
£100-200 each (for a decent fan assisted one), panel heaters in the
bedrooms £20 each. Of course, no gas supply is where the money is saved.


For flats I'd expect the cost of laying on a gas supply to disappear
compared to the cost of installing dozens of individual central heating
systems.

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