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Sylvain VAN DER WALDE August 31st 06 02:58 PM

Sash window won't stay up
 
Hello all.

When I raise that window, it won't stay up (no big deal), so I use a block
of wood. I think that I can assume (correctly) that the weight of that "bit
of metal" at the end of the cord is too low.
Now, I'm fairly sure that I saw a website some time ago which supplied some
"slide on" additional weights. I believe that they were circular metal discs
with a slot (the slot ending at the centre of the disk).
Am I imagining this? Can anyone come up with a supplier, or with some decent
alternative solution.

Thanks in advance.

Sylvain.



Stuart August 31st 06 03:28 PM

Sash window won't stay up
 
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:58:43 GMT, "Sylvain VAN DER WALDE"
wrote:

Hello all.

When I raise that window, it won't stay up (no big deal), so I use a block
of wood. I think that I can assume (correctly) that the weight of that "bit
of metal" at the end of the cord is too low.
Now, I'm fairly sure that I saw a website some time ago which supplied some
"slide on" additional weights. I believe that they were circular metal discs
with a slot (the slot ending at the centre of the disk).
Am I imagining this? Can anyone come up with a supplier, or with some decent
alternative solution.

Thanks in advance.

Sylvain.


That "bit of metal" as you describe it is a sash weight ..usually cast iron with
a loop at the top to take the sash cord. I'm trying to figure out why the
window won't stay up as it won't have got heavier and the sash weight won't have
got lighter ....It might be an idea to have a look in the sash box ( by removing
a panel in the runner ) and check the condidtion of the rope anyway ( remember
to support the window if you are removing the weight or lifting it up )
otherwise you might get a sore head or worse . It could be that one of the
weights ( there is one per side ) has become detached and causing your problem .
You can still get weights,pulleys etc and cord is easy enough to get . . I
haven't however seen what you are looking for but look through these links and
see
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Sash+Weights&hl=en&lr=&cr=countryUK|count ryGB&newwindow=1&start=0&sa=N

[email protected] August 31st 06 03:35 PM

Sash window won't stay up
 

Stuart wrote:

That "bit of metal" as you describe it is a sash weight ..usually cast iron with
a loop at the top to take the sash cord. I'm trying to figure out why the
window won't stay up as it won't have got heavier and the sash weight won't have
got lighter ....It might be an idea to have a look in the sash box ( by removing
a panel in the runner ) and check the condidtion of the rope anyway ( remember
to support the window if you are removing the weight or lifting it up )
otherwise you might get a sore head or worse . It could be that one of the
weights ( there is one per side ) has become detached and causing your problem


This is probably the case. Remeber that some sash windows don't
actually have rope and weights but I guess this might be clear.


Ken August 31st 06 03:59 PM

Sash window won't stay up
 
The sash may have got heavier by a change of glass. If this is the case and
the sash cords and weights are okay, just cut some old lead piping (from
scrap yard maybe) cut a slot in it and fit around the sash cord above the
weight. Keep adding lead until the sash is right. Do both sides though.

ken



[email protected] August 31st 06 03:59 PM

Sash window won't stay up
 

Stuart wrote:

I'm trying to figure out why the
window won't stay up as it won't have got heavier


There is a possibility that the window may have got heavier if the
glass has been replaced as this could be a different weight to the
original glass.

The other advice on things to look out for though is spot on.

This link may be of use.

http://www.sashwindowspecialist.com/diyguide.html

There is also a very good section in the Reader's Digest DIY Manual.


Sylvain VAN DER WALDE August 31st 06 04:10 PM

Sash window won't stay up
 

"Stuart" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:58:43 GMT, "Sylvain VAN DER WALDE"
wrote:

Hello all.

When I raise that window, it won't stay up (no big deal), so I use a block
of wood. I think that I can assume (correctly) that the weight of that
"bit
of metal" at the end of the cord is too low.
Now, I'm fairly sure that I saw a website some time ago which supplied
some
"slide on" additional weights. I believe that they were circular metal
discs
with a slot (the slot ending at the centre of the disk).
Am I imagining this? Can anyone come up with a supplier, or with some
decent
alternative solution.

Thanks in advance.

Sylvain.


That "bit of metal" as you describe it is a sash weight ..usually cast
iron with
a loop at the top to take the sash cord.


I was being humorous. I nearly wrote "the weight of the weight (no pun
intended)".
As a matter of interest, I fitted two cords and parting beads to a sash
window recently; and renewed 3 or 4 sash cords some years ago, which are
still OK. So, I'm alright with actually tackling the job.

I'm trying to figure out why the
window won't stay up as it won't have got heavier and the sash weight
won't have
got lighter ....it might be an idea to have a look in the sash box ( by
removing
a panel in the runner ) and check the condidtion of the rope anyway (
remember
to support the window if you are removing the weight or lifting it up )
otherwise you might get a sore head or worse . It could be that one of the
weights ( there is one per side ) has become detached and causing your
problem .


The window is a standard one, and hasn't been modified. The weights have not
become detached, as I can pull on both cords and feel their presence.
One theory: some "swine " wanted the original weight/s, and substituted some
"near enough" bits of metal. I'll find out in due course.
Thanks for the links.

Sylvain.

You can still get weights,pulleys etc and cord is easy enough to get . . I
haven't however seen what you are looking for but look through these links
and
see


http://www.google.co.uk/search
q=Sash+Weights&hl=en&lr=&cr=countryUK|countryGB&n ewwindow=1&start=0&sa=N





Sylvain VAN DER WALDE August 31st 06 04:19 PM

Sash window won't stay up
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

Stuart wrote:

That "bit of metal" as you describe it is a sash weight ..usually cast
iron with
a loop at the top to take the sash cord. I'm trying to figure out why
the
window won't stay up as it won't have got heavier and the sash weight
won't have
got lighter ....It might be an idea to have a look in the sash box ( by
removing
a panel in the runner ) and check the condidtion of the rope anyway (
remember
to support the window if you are removing the weight or lifting it up )
otherwise you might get a sore head or worse . It could be that one of
the
weights ( there is one per side ) has become detached and causing your
problem


This is probably the case. Remeber that some sash windows don't
actually have rope and weights but I guess this might be clear.


It is clear. :) Please see my previous reply.

Sylvain.




Sylvain VAN DER WALDE August 31st 06 04:19 PM

Sash window won't stay up
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

Stuart wrote:

I'm trying to figure out why the
window won't stay up as it won't have got heavier


There is a possibility that the window may have got heavier if the
glass has been replaced as this could be a different weight to the
original glass.


Yes, a fair possibility. One easily missed. I will look at the supplied
link.
Thank you.

Sylvain.

The other advice on things to look out for though is spot on.

This link may be of use.

http://www.sashwindowspecialist.com/diyguide.html

There is also a very good section in the Reader's Digest DIY Manual.

I use to own such a manual, but donated it to a charity shop. It must have
been an early edition, which I decided was now redundant.

Sylvain.



Sylvain VAN DER WALDE August 31st 06 04:30 PM

Sash window won't stay up
 

"Ken" wrote in message
...
The sash may have got heavier by a change of glass. If this is the case
and the sash cords and weights are okay, just cut some old lead piping
(from scrap yard maybe) cut a slot in it and fit around the sash cord
above the weight. Keep adding lead until the sash is right. Do both sides
though.


That _is_ a good idea. I won't need these "slip-on" disks, after all (which
might not be available, anyway).

Sylvain.

ken




chris French August 31st 06 04:43 PM

Sash window won't stay up
 
In message , Sylvain VAN DER
WALDE writes

"Ken" wrote in message
...
The sash may have got heavier by a change of glass. If this is the case
and the sash cords and weights are okay, just cut some old lead piping
(from scrap yard maybe) cut a slot in it and fit around the sash cord
above the weight. Keep adding lead until the sash is right. Do both sides
though.


That _is_ a good idea. I won't need these "slip-on" disks, after all (which
might not be available, anyway).



Mightons are a good source for sash window bits, what you are looking
for are called makeweights:

http://www.mightonproducts.com/catal...7&osCsid=7e6e4
0492fb27af955ec830551b73417
--
Chris French


Sylvain VAN DER WALDE August 31st 06 06:46 PM

Sash window won't stay up
 

"chris French" wrote in message
...
In message , Sylvain VAN DER WALDE
writes

"Ken" wrote in message
...
The sash may have got heavier by a change of glass. If this is the case
and the sash cords and weights are okay, just cut some old lead piping
(from scrap yard maybe) cut a slot in it and fit around the sash cord
above the weight. Keep adding lead until the sash is right. Do both
sides
though.


That _is_ a good idea. I won't need these "slip-on" disks, after all
(which
might not be available, anyway).


Mightons are a good source for sash window bits, what you are looking for
are called makeweights:

http://www.mightonproducts.com/catal...7&osCsid=7e6e4
0492fb27af955ec830551b73417


Thanks, Chris.
I will look at that website.
Please look at my UPDATED message.

Sylvain.

--
Chris French





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