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[email protected] August 28th 06 05:40 PM

Removing Garage Door with window and bricks
 
About to do this very soon on a late 60s built house with enclosed
garage.

I'm going to get a UPVC window to fit totally across the top half, to
existing brick, and use new bricks/blocks below, which will be rendered
with concrete.

I'll also stick a DPC at the same height as the existing one.

Do I need to do anything else with the DPC and can I lay brick straight
onto the concrete floor with mortar or should I prepare it some other
way?

Any other advice appreciated.

Cheers.


[email protected] August 28th 06 05:48 PM

Removing Garage Door with window and bricks
 

wrote:
About to do this very soon on a late 60s built house with enclosed
garage.

I'm going to get a UPVC window to fit totally across the top half, to
existing brick, and use new bricks/blocks below, which will be rendered
with concrete.

I'll also stick a DPC at the same height as the existing one.

Do I need to do anything else with the DPC and can I lay brick straight
onto the concrete floor with mortar or should I prepare it some other
way?

Any other advice appreciated.

Cheers.


Sorry, 'Replacing' not 'Removing' should be in the title.


Phil L August 28th 06 09:36 PM

Removing Garage Door with window and bricks
 
wrote:
About to do this very soon on a late 60s built house with enclosed
garage.

I'm going to get a UPVC window to fit totally across the top half, to
existing brick, and use new bricks/blocks below, which will be
rendered with concrete.

I'll also stick a DPC at the same height as the existing one.

Do I need to do anything else with the DPC and can I lay brick
straight onto the concrete floor with mortar or should I prepare it
some other way?

Any other advice appreciated.

Cheers.


If you are changing the use of the garage to a dwelling area, then planning
and/or building control will need to know, they'll also want to see the
foundations which will mean diging some test holes outside, they'll want to
know if there's any DPM underneath the existing floor and if there's not you
may have to dig it out and get one in and probably insulation under the
floor too, and also the walls and ceiling.

If it's not becoming a dwelling then you can disregard all of the above, but
if it is and you don't do the above, then you will have problems when you
sell the house, unless you turn it back into a garage.



Roger Mills August 28th 06 10:20 PM

Removing Garage Door with window and bricks
 
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Phil L wrote:


If you are changing the use of the garage to a dwelling area, then
planning and/or building control will need to know, they'll also want
to see the foundations which will mean diging some test holes
outside, they'll want to know if there's any DPM underneath the
existing floor and if there's not you may have to dig it out and get
one in and probably insulation under the floor too, and also the
walls and ceiling.

The foundations shouldn't be too much of a problem. There probably aren't
any across the doorway - but there won't be much to support anyway - just
the brickwork in the lower part of the doorway and the window. The concrete
floor will support that ok. Everything higher up is supported by the lintel
which, in turn is supported by the brickwork and foundations either side of
the door.

The garage floor is almost certainly several inches lower than that of the
adjoining rooms, and will need to be made up to house level - so there is
plenty of scope for installing a DPM and insulation if required.
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Lobster August 29th 06 11:07 AM

Removing Garage Door with window and bricks
 
Roger Mills wrote:
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Phil L wrote:

If you are changing the use of the garage to a dwelling area, then
planning and/or building control will need to know, they'll also want
to see the foundations which will mean diging some test holes
outside, they'll want to know if there's any DPM underneath the
existing floor and if there's not you may have to dig it out and get
one in and probably insulation under the floor too, and also the
walls and ceiling.


The foundations shouldn't be too much of a problem. There probably aren't
any across the doorway - but there won't be much to support anyway - just
the brickwork in the lower part of the doorway and the window. The concrete
floor will support that ok. Everything higher up is supported by the lintel
which, in turn is supported by the brickwork and foundations either side of
the door.


When I did a similar project, the building control officer made me
excavate the ground immediately outside what would be your door area to
confirm how thick the concrete floor was, before giving me the OK not to
prepare new foundations.

The garage floor is almost certainly several inches lower than that of the
adjoining rooms, and will need to be made up to house level - so there is
plenty of scope for installing a DPM and insulation if required.


Suggest the BCO is consulted over this too before work gets under way...
for current regs, several inches of insulation plus the overlying
concrete (presumably) will be required; I think the OP would be lucky to
have that much depth available. However, my BCO was prepared to
compromise over this as it wasn't a new build, and I got away with 1"
Kingspan (ie 1" more than elsewhere in the property! which is likely to
be the same scenario with yours if it's 1960s).

Once you've submitted a building notice to the council, and paid your
fee, you'll probably find the BCO will be prepared to come round and
advise on what he expects. They're usually pretty helpful IMHE, if you
show you're trying to do it properly (and actually bothering to submit a
building notice in the first place is the first step in that process!)

David

Phil L August 29th 06 07:42 PM

Removing Garage Door with window and bricks
 
Lobster wrote:
Roger Mills wrote:
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Phil L wrote:

If you are changing the use of the garage to a dwelling area, then
planning and/or building control will need to know, they'll also
want to see the foundations which will mean diging some test holes
outside, they'll want to know if there's any DPM underneath the
existing floor and if there's not you may have to dig it out and get
one in and probably insulation under the floor too, and also the
walls and ceiling.


The foundations shouldn't be too much of a problem. There probably
aren't any across the doorway - but there won't be much to support
anyway - just the brickwork in the lower part of the doorway and the
window. The concrete floor will support that ok. Everything higher
up is supported by the lintel which, in turn is supported by the
brickwork and foundations either side of the door.


When I did a similar project, the building control officer made me
excavate the ground immediately outside what would be your door area
to confirm how thick the concrete floor was, before giving me the OK
not to prepare new foundations.

The garage floor is almost certainly several inches lower than that
of the adjoining rooms, and will need to be made up to house level -
so there is plenty of scope for installing a DPM and insulation if
required.


Suggest the BCO is consulted over this too before work gets under
way... for current regs, several inches of insulation plus the
overlying concrete (presumably) will be required; I think the OP
would be lucky to have that much depth available. However, my BCO
was prepared to compromise over this as it wasn't a new build, and I
got away with 1" Kingspan (ie 1" more than elsewhere in the property!
which is likely to be the same scenario with yours if it's 1960s).

Once you've submitted a building notice to the council, and paid your
fee, you'll probably find the BCO will be prepared to come round and
advise on what he expects. They're usually pretty helpful IMHE, if
you show you're trying to do it properly (and actually bothering to
submit a building notice in the first place is the first step in that
process!)
David


Couldn't agree more, why people are reluctant to liase with BC or planning
is a mystery to me.



[email protected] August 30th 06 11:02 AM

Removing Garage Door with window and bricks
 

Okay, thanks to all for the advice. I'll let you know what the BCO says.



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