Hi guys. I wanted to run the possibility of putting the washing
machine drain hose, directly into a drain (without the traditional
u-bend). The drain is in my shed from an old toilet in the olden days.

Will this be okay or cause problems? Just trying to save myself a few
quid.

Many thanks.

just had a thought... when the washer breaks down, the water is drained
by lowering the drain hose. Does this mean the washer will not retain
water unless the drain hose it at a high position?

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just had a thought... when the washer breaks down, the water is drained
by lowering the drain hose. Does this mean the washer will not retain
water unless the drain hose it at a high position?

Yes, it is common with washing machines and dishwashers.
I forgot this when the kitchen was having a makeover - I installed the
washing machine, dishwasher and tumble drier in the bathroom temporarily,
the dishwasher was on top of the W/M and it's drain was not looped up then
down, it was only when I put it on and heard it continually filling I
remembered about this!

Sparks...

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Hi guys. I wanted to run the possibility of putting the washing
machine drain hose, directly into a drain (without the traditional
u-bend). The drain is in my shed from an old toilet in the olden days.

Will this be okay or cause problems? Just trying to save myself a few
quid.

Many thanks.

The U bend is there to stop smells from the drain entering the building.

is this old toilet "drain" already open, or is it blocked up at the moment?

Sparks...

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just had a thought... when the washer breaks down, the water is drained
by lowering the drain hose. Does this mean the washer will not retain
water unless the drain hose it at a high position?

Correct. If the hose is laid flat on the floor all the water will run
out. You can get round this by having a small hump in the hose. A few
inches would do.

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Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

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just had a thought... when the washer breaks down, the water is drained
by lowering the drain hose. Does this mean the washer will not retain
water unless the drain hose it at a high position?

Correct. If the hose is laid flat on the floor all the water will run
out. You can get round this by having a small hump in the hose. A few
inches would do.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

The top of the hump would need to be at least the hose's width higher than
the highest point the water get's to in the machine, so I very much doubt a
couple of inches will work!

Sparks...

Hi guys. I wanted to run the possibility of putting the washing
machine drain hose, directly into a drain (without the traditional
u-bend). The drain is in my shed from an old toilet in the olden days.

Will this be okay or cause problems? Just trying to save myself a few
quid.

Not OK. You must have a U-bend trap. It will actually break building
regulations without one. The hose must go up some distance before entering
the U-bend. The washing machine instructions will give a range of allowable
heights above the floor, probably above about 50cm.

Christian.

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wrote in message
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just had a thought... when the washer breaks down, the water is drained
by lowering the drain hose. Does this mean the washer will not retain
water unless the drain hose it at a high position?

Yes, it is common with washing machines and dishwashers.
I forgot this when the kitchen was having a makeover - I installed the
washing machine, dishwasher and tumble drier in the bathroom temporarily,
the dishwasher was on top of the W/M and it's drain was not looped up then
down, it was only when I put it on and heard it continually filling I
remembered about this!

Sparks...


I found that the pump sometimes runs during the wash cycle for a couple of
seconds - with a close coupled waste it then siphoned all the water out!!
Had to replumb...

Peter

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The top of the hump would need to be at least the hose's width higher than
the highest point the water get's to in the machine, so I very much doubt a
couple of inches will work!

Ah, sorry, you're quite right. I forgot all about keeping the water in
during the wash and was just thinking about keeping a waterseal after
emptying.

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Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

thanks for all comments so far. i will go and buy a washing m/c waste
kit.

The toilet drain, currently has the sink waste going into it and the
remainder just blocked up with a rubble sack scrunched up.

Seems to work as no smells get up into the shed.

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thanks for all comments so far. i will go and buy a washing m/c waste
kit.

The toilet drain, currently has the sink waste going into it and the
remainder just blocked up with a rubble sack scrunched up.

Seems to work as no smells get up into the shed.

And I bet the sink waste has got a trap on it!

You say you want to save a couple of bob. It will cost you around a
fiver from a shed to buy a proper Washing Machine trap and prevent
drain smells entering the building. As someone has pointed out already,
building regs require you to have a trap.