Radiators heating through returns when HW on...
 

Hello,
I replaced the radiators and pipework on the first floor of my house a
few weeks ago, however some rads heat through the return when the HW is
on.

I have a boiler at the opposite end of the house on ground floor which
has a feed up to the 3 way valve by the cylinder, which then returns
out with the rad returns joining in two locations just before the drop
down back to the boiler. The downstairs rads return also comes up next
to the return and feed and joins the above return. Making sense? I
followed the original layout but needed to change that because of this
but it still occurs.

The return comes from the cylinder back to the boiler so where should I
join the return from the rads? Is it helping that 3 rads connect to
one run then to the cylinder return with one seperate rad joining at
the same section within 5 inches? Space doesn't allow me to connect it
to the rad return easily...

This is probably a nightmare for anyone to help with due to my garbled
explanation (I do have a diagram if anyone wants it) so any help is
really appreciated with how I should redesign this?

A- Return from cylinder to boiler (drops down to ground floor)
B- Radiator Return joining 3 rads each heat when HW is on
C- B joins A
D- D joins A (4th radiator which joins cylinder return seperately,
doesn't heat with HW)
E- Return from downstairs rads joins A (Doesn't heat from HW)

|--- Rad
--------------------------------------Rad
|
|
| A
C |D |--------------E

----------------------------------------------------------|-----------------|----------
Rad ------------- |
----------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------
| --------------Rad
| B
|
Cylinder
Boiler

Should I try to connect D to B so all rads are on same return then
connect to A as it is?

Many thanks for any help that you can give.

Jamie

Radiators heating through returns when HW on...
 

jamiep wrote:
.... snipped

Many thanks for any help that you can give.

Jamie

I couldn't understand the pic/description but, if you can't common the
returns in an organised way put non-return valves in the heating circuit
to prevent the reverse flow.

Dave

Radiators heating through returns when HW on...
 

jamiep wrote:
Hello,
I replaced the radiators and pipework on the first floor of my house a
few weeks ago, however some rads heat through the return when the HW is
on.

I have a boiler at the opposite end of the house on ground floor which
has a feed up to the 3 way valve by the cylinder, which then returns
out with the rad returns joining in two locations just before the drop
down back to the boiler. The downstairs rads return also comes up next
to the return and feed and joins the above return. Making sense? I
followed the original layout but needed to change that because of this
but it still occurs.

The return comes from the cylinder back to the boiler so where should I
join the return from the rads? Is it helping that 3 rads connect to
one run then to the cylinder return with one seperate rad joining at
the same section within 5 inches? Space doesn't allow me to connect it
to the rad return easily...

This is probably a nightmare for anyone to help with due to my garbled
explanation (I do have a diagram if anyone wants it) so any help is
really appreciated with how I should redesign this?


Many thanks for any help that you can give.

Jamie

Radiators heating through returns when HW on...
 

jamiep wrote:
Hello,
I replaced the radiators and pipework on the first floor of my house a
few weeks ago, however some rads heat through the return when the HW is
on.

I have a boiler at the opposite end of the house on ground floor which
has a feed up to the 3 way valve by the cylinder, which then returns
out with the rad returns joining in two locations just before the drop
down back to the boiler. The downstairs rads return also comes up next
to the return and feed and joins the above return. Making sense? I
followed the original layout but needed to change that because of this
but it still occurs.

The return comes from the cylinder back to the boiler so where should I
join the return from the rads? Is it helping that 3 rads connect to
one run then to the cylinder return with one seperate rad joining at
the same section within 5 inches? Space doesn't allow me to connect it
to the rad return easily...

This is probably a nightmare for anyone to help with due to my garbled
explanation (I do have a diagram if anyone wants it) so any help is
really appreciated with how I should redesign this?

A- Return from cylinder to boiler (drops down to ground floor)
B- Radiator Return joining 3 rads each heat when HW is on
C- B joins A
D- D joins A (4th radiator which joins cylinder return seperately,
doesn't heat with HW)
E- Return from downstairs rads joins A (Doesn't heat from HW)

|--- Rad
--------------------------------------Rad
|
|
| A
C |D |--------------E

----------------------------------------------------------|-----------------|----------
Rad ------------- |
----------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------
| --------------Rad
| B
|
Cylinder
Boiler

Should I try to connect D to B so all rads are on same return then
connect to A as it is?

Many thanks for any help that you can give.

Jamie

You need a plumber to look at it Jamie.

Radiators heating through returns when HW on...
 

Hello,

Thanks for your advice guys.

The diagram got a bit squashed when posting so wont make any sense!

The rads from bathroom, bed 1, bed 2 are connected to one pipe which in
turn connects to the return from the cylinder to the boiler, bed 3
connects to the cylinder return seperately approx 4 inches from the
other rad connections and isn't affected. The downstairs rads return
also comes upstairs and joins the cylinder return and that isn't
affected other than normal convection.

I don't think I'm going to fix this as I've already changed the pipe
layout once and it's getting costly so I may go with the non return
valve on the return to the rads

Thanks,

Jamie

Dave wrote:
jamiep wrote:
... snipped

Many thanks for any help that you can give.

Jamie

I couldn't understand the pic/description but, if you can't common the
returns in an organised way put non-return valves in the heating circuit
to prevent the reverse flow.

Dave