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John July 1st 06 01:47 PM

Trimming Doors
 
I have a new build house with hollow panelled doors, the type with a grain
effect. I need to trim at least three of them now carpets are fitted. What
is the best way to cut them to avoid chipping/splintering of the door faces?
I thought maybe deep scoring with a Stanley knife etc. prior to cutting but
I would have to make sure I got the cut perfectly lined up top and bottom
IYSWIM. What about using a router?

TIA

John



The3rd Earl Of Derby July 1st 06 01:57 PM

Trimming Doors
 
John wrote:
I have a new build house with hollow panelled doors, the type with a
grain effect. I need to trim at least three of them now carpets are
fitted. What is the best way to cut them to avoid
chipping/splintering of the door faces? I thought maybe deep scoring
with a Stanley knife etc. prior to cutting but I would have to make
sure I got the cut perfectly lined up top and bottom IYSWIM. What
about using a router?

TIA

John


Scoring them is a good idea,but why are you scoring them top and bottom? a
carpet is on about 3 to 4mm high.
You could also clamp battens either side of the door to reduce the risk of
splintering but this is finicky to get right.

A good straight router bit will give you a good sharp edge but you need to
put a piece of wood at the ending stage of the router cut otherwise if you
don't it'll splinter the edge of the door.

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite




Andrew Gabriel July 1st 06 02:38 PM

Trimming Doors
 
In article ,
"The3rd Earl Of Derby" writes:
John wrote:
I have a new build house with hollow panelled doors, the type with a
grain effect. I need to trim at least three of them now carpets are
fitted. What is the best way to cut them to avoid
chipping/splintering of the door faces? I thought maybe deep scoring
with a Stanley knife etc. prior to cutting but I would have to make
sure I got the cut perfectly lined up top and bottom IYSWIM. What
about using a router?


Scoring them is a good idea,but why are you scoring them top and bottom? a
carpet is on about 3 to 4mm high.


Depends on the carpet. One with underlay will be more -- mine is 11mm
according to spec (in practice a little more to clear a door).

You could also clamp battens either side of the door to reduce the risk of
splintering but this is finicky to get right.

A good straight router bit will give you a good sharp edge but you need to
put a piece of wood at the ending stage of the router cut otherwise if you
don't it'll splinter the edge of the door.


An electric plane is excellent for this. A new sharp blade will
not cause splintering along the sides, but you'll still need a
scrap piece to prevent splintering at the end. Run the plane
an equal number of times in each direction, to avoid the bottom
of the door taking on an angle due to cumulative errors in the
cutter setting.

--
Andrew Gabriel

John July 1st 06 02:42 PM

Trimming Doors
 
"The3rd Earl Of Derby" wrote in message
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John wrote:
I have a new build house with hollow panelled doors, the type with a
grain effect. I need to trim at least three of them now carpets are
fitted. What is the best way to cut them to avoid
chipping/splintering of the door faces? I thought maybe deep scoring
with a Stanley knife etc. prior to cutting but I would have to make
sure I got the cut perfectly lined up top and bottom IYSWIM. What
about using a router?

TIA

John


Scoring them is a good idea,but why are you scoring them top and bottom? a
carpet is on about 3 to 4mm high.


When I say 'top & bottom' I mean of the cut i.e both faces of the door, when
placed on my workmate, not the top and bottom edges of the doors.

You could also clamp battens either side of the door to reduce the risk of
splintering but this is finicky to get right.

A good straight router bit will give you a good sharp edge but you need to
put a piece of wood at the ending stage of the router cut otherwise if you
don't it'll splinter the edge of the door.





The3rd Earl Of Derby July 1st 06 02:47 PM

Trimming Doors
 
John wrote:


Scoring them is a good idea,but why are you scoring them top and
bottom? a carpet is on about 3 to 4mm high.


When I say 'top & bottom' I mean of the cut i.e both faces of the
door, when placed on my workmate, not the top and bottom edges of the
doors.


:-) you mean scoring both sides.

If your going to score the door then make sure the blades cutters cut a
fraction outside that scoring,thats if you are using a circular saw.
The router is the better option as I hate using a elecy plane on doors. :-(


--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite




Cicero July 1st 06 07:17 PM

Trimming Doors
 

"John" wrote in message
...
I have a new build house with hollow panelled doors, the type with a grain
effect. I need to trim at least three of them now carpets are fitted.

What
is the best way to cut them to avoid chipping/splintering of the door

faces?
I thought maybe deep scoring with a Stanley knife etc. prior to cutting

but
I would have to make sure I got the cut perfectly lined up top and bottom
IYSWIM. What about using a router?

TIA

John



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Buy one of these - you'll never regret it. These saws will cut contiboard
cleanly without any 'breakout'.

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...77701&id=42618

Cic.



Weatherlawyer July 1st 06 08:04 PM

Trimming Doors
 

John wrote:

When I say 'top & bottom' I mean of the cut i.e both faces of the door, when
placed on my workmate, not the top and bottom edges of the doors.


Take the opportunity to correct any uneven gaps by raising and packing
etc. If you have any poorly fitted doors send us a picture link if you
are not sure what to do. It's a mazing what you can do with 1/2" to
play with.

Measure up from the carpet to the top right and left corners of the
frame to see if the floor is still level. If it's out measure the door
to make sure that it hasn't already had the error compensated for.

If your house was unusually well built you can scratch the bottom with
a marking gauge. If more normal building practices have been employed
mark it with a knife.

It's worth buying a new say if you don't have an electrical one. But
use an old saw where the stiles meet the rail. There is invariably a
suitably placed staple there just waiting to ruin a new saw.


Tim S July 1st 06 11:25 PM

Trimming Doors
 
Andrew Gabriel wrote:

An electric plane is excellent for this. A new sharp blade will
not cause splintering along the sides, but you'll still need a
scrap piece to prevent splintering at the end. Run the plane
an equal number of times in each direction, to avoid the bottom
of the door taking on an angle due to cumulative errors in the
cutter setting.


Agreed, an electric plane makes the job easy and neat. I did this to the
type of door mentioned by the OP, when I fitted laminate and needed about
5mm off the bottom of most of my doors.

To the OP: Plane in from each end towards the middle. Planing along and off
the end will splinter the end. Watch out for panel pins in the door -
nicked the blade of my power plane doing that(!).

HTH

Tim

Phil Anthropist July 2nd 06 10:58 AM

Trimming Doors
 
"John" wrote:
I have a new build house with hollow panelled doors, the type with a grain
effect. I need to trim at least three of them now carpets are fitted.
What is the best way to cut them to avoid chipping/splintering of the door
faces? I thought maybe deep scoring with a Stanley knife etc. prior to
cutting but I would have to make sure I got the cut perfectly lined up top
and bottom IYSWIM. What about using a router?

TIA

John


I have tried using a handsaw, jigsaw, circular saw, hand plane and electric
plane, and found that an electric plane gives the best result. Saws tend to
drift unless you clamp timber on the door to guide the tool. Whatever you
use, the teeth or blade must be sharp. You can do a test trim first. If you
need to remove 20mm try removing 10mm first to see the result.



Stickems. July 5th 06 03:04 PM

Trimming Doors
 
Enquire at your local Tool Hire shop. There is available a tool that will
cut the base of your doors without the need to remove the door.


"John" wrote in message
...
|I have a new build house with hollow panelled doors, the type with a grain
| effect. I need to trim at least three of them now carpets are fitted.
What
| is the best way to cut them to avoid chipping/splintering of the door
faces?
| I thought maybe deep scoring with a Stanley knife etc. prior to cutting
but
| I would have to make sure I got the cut perfectly lined up top and bottom
| IYSWIM. What about using a router?
|
| TIA
|
| John
|
|



Phil Anthropist July 7th 06 06:39 AM

Trimming Doors
 
"Stickems." wrote:
Enquire at your local Tool Hire shop. There is available a tool that will
cut the base of your doors without the need to remove the door.


True, but the OP wrote "I need to trim at least three of them now carpets
are fitted." So, I assume that the doors were taken off their hinges in
order to fit new carpets and cannot be put back on due to the increased
height of the new carpets.



Stuart Noble July 7th 06 12:37 PM

Trimming Doors
 
Phil Anthropist wrote:
"Stickems." wrote:

Enquire at your local Tool Hire shop. There is available a tool that will
cut the base of your doors without the need to remove the door.



True, but the OP wrote "I need to trim at least three of them now carpets
are fitted." So, I assume that the doors were taken off their hinges in
order to fit new carpets and cannot be put back on due to the increased
height of the new carpets.



Circular saw and a clamped on straightedge. Quick and accurate, and a
better finish than a plane on end grain.


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