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Phil L May 26th 06 12:13 AM

Fixing a UPVC door using foam? Anyone done it or have stories to tell?
 
Cordless Crazy wrote:
Anyone used that Fischer 2-part foam designed for fixing door and
window frames in lieu of using regular fixings?

http://tinyurl.com/hqn4g

Was wondering whether to use it to fix my french doors (plus
sidelights either side) as the frame is 2400mm wide and in my opinion
it is too wide for the gear to work/secure it properly.

What do you reckon?


I reckon it fixes better than screws / nails / bolts or any other kind of
metal fixing...just make sure you've got the frame positioned right, you'll
not move it afterwards without a *lot* of cutting



Grimly Curmudgeon May 26th 06 01:10 AM

Fixing a UPVC door using foam? Anyone done it or have stories to tell?
 
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Cordless Crazy
saying something like:

Was wondering whether to use it to fix my french doors (plus sidelights
either side) as the frame is 2400mm wide and in my opinion it is too
wide for the gear to work/secure it properly.

What do you reckon?


It's a standard way of fixing most DG units (with the aid of a couple of
weedy brackets), just make sure you don't use too much else it can
distort the frame as it expands.
--

Dave

Cordless Crazy May 26th 06 02:48 AM

Fixing a UPVC door using foam? Anyone done it or have stories to tell?
 
Anyone used that Fischer 2-part foam designed for fixing door and window frames in lieu of using regular fixings?

http://tinyurl.com/hqn4g

Was wondering whether to use it to fix my french doors (plus sidelights either side) as the frame is 2400mm wide and in my opinion it is too wide for the gear to work/secure it properly.

What do you reckon?

dennis@home May 26th 06 09:21 AM

Fixing a UPVC door using foam? Anyone done it or have stories to tell?
 

"Cordless Crazy" wrote in message
...

Anyone used that Fischer 2-part foam designed for fixing door and window
frames in lieu of using regular fixings?

http://tinyurl.com/hqn4g

Was wondering whether to use it to fix my french doors (plus sidelights
either side) as the frame is 2400mm wide and in my opinion it is too
wide for the gear to work/secure it properly.

What do you reckon?


It is probably a good structural fixing.

What is to stop a thief cutting it through with a hacksaw blade and removing
the entire frame in silence?



Chris Bacon May 26th 06 09:47 AM

Fixing a UPVC door using foam? Anyone done it or have storiesto tell?
 
Cordless Crazy wrote:
Was wondering whether to use it to fix my french doors (plus sidelights
either side) as the frame is 2400mm wide and in my opinion it is too
wide for the gear to work/secure it properly.

What do you reckon?


Just use chewing-gum, since you're in France at the moment.

The Natural Philosopher May 26th 06 10:02 AM

Fixing a UPVC door using foam? Anyone done it or have storiesto tell?
 
dennis@home wrote:
"Cordless Crazy" wrote in message
...
Anyone used that Fischer 2-part foam designed for fixing door and window
frames in lieu of using regular fixings?

http://tinyurl.com/hqn4g

Was wondering whether to use it to fix my french doors (plus sidelights
either side) as the frame is 2400mm wide and in my opinion it is too
wide for the gear to work/secure it properly.

What do you reckon?


It is probably a good structural fixing.

What is to stop a thief cutting it through with a hacksaw blade and removing
the entire frame in silence?


The render you put over it afterwards.

Cordless Crazy May 26th 06 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil L
Cordless Crazy wrote:
Anyone used that Fischer 2-part foam designed for fixing door and
window frames in lieu of using regular fixings?

http://tinyurl.com/hqn4g

Was wondering whether to use it to fix my french doors (plus
sidelights either side) as the frame is 2400mm wide and in my opinion
it is too wide for the gear to work/secure it properly.

What do you reckon?


I reckon it fixes better than screws / nails / bolts or any other kind of
metal fixing...just make sure you've got the frame positioned right, you'll
not move it afterwards without a *lot* of cutting

Would regular expanding foam do, or is the Fischer stuff better as its designed for it? (Am fixing a DG unit of size 2400w x 2100h)

Phil L May 26th 06 03:36 PM

Fixing a UPVC door using foam? Anyone done it or have stories to tell?
 
dennis@home wrote:
"Cordless Crazy" wrote in
message ...

Anyone used that Fischer 2-part foam designed for fixing door and
window frames in lieu of using regular fixings?

http://tinyurl.com/hqn4g

Was wondering whether to use it to fix my french doors (plus
sidelights either side) as the frame is 2400mm wide and in my
opinion it is too wide for the gear to work/secure it properly.

What do you reckon?


It is probably a good structural fixing.

What is to stop a thief cutting it through with a hacksaw blade and
removing the entire frame in silence?


In silence? - you've obviously never tried to remove a PVC frame that has
been fixed in with foam...hacksaw blades to start (which incidentally sound
like a pig giving birth, except they are much louder), then many, many hits
with 5lb lump hammer onto 3X2 timber against the frame, this causes the
whole thing rattle and vibrate and sounds similar to a washing machine being
pushed down a staircase....this is all done with the glazing units removed,
I'd hate to think what it would sound like fully glazed.



Cordless Crazy May 26th 06 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Bacon
Cordless Crazy wrote:
Was wondering whether to use it to fix my french doors (plus sidelights
either side) as the frame is 2400mm wide and in my opinion it is too
wide for the gear to work/secure it properly.

What do you reckon?


Just use chewing-gum, since you're in France at the moment.

What the fudge?

sm_jamieson May 26th 06 04:40 PM

Fixing a UPVC door using foam? Anyone done it or have stories to tell?
 

Cordless Crazy wrote:
Anyone used that Fischer 2-part foam designed for fixing door and window
frames in lieu of using regular fixings?

http://tinyurl.com/hqn4g

Was wondering whether to use it to fix my french doors (plus sidelights
either side) as the frame is 2400mm wide and in my opinion it is too
wide for the gear to work/secure it properly.

What do you reckon?


--
Cordless Crazy


Is this any different to fixing using normal 1-part expanding foam ?
Anything special about the 2-part ?
Simon.


Phil L May 26th 06 05:04 PM

Fixing a UPVC door using foam? Anyone done it or have stories to tell?
 
sm_jamieson wrote:
Cordless Crazy wrote:
Anyone used that Fischer 2-part foam designed for fixing door and
window frames in lieu of using regular fixings?

http://tinyurl.com/hqn4g

Was wondering whether to use it to fix my french doors (plus
sidelights either side) as the frame is 2400mm wide and in my
opinion it is too wide for the gear to work/secure it properly.

What do you reckon?


--
Cordless Crazy


Is this any different to fixing using normal 1-part expanding foam ?
Anything special about the 2-part ?
Simon.


Not really, except that it is applied using a mastic gun, the outcome is
virtually the same, except you don't need to buy a foam gun



Phil L May 26th 06 05:49 PM

Fixing a UPVC door using foam? Anyone done it or have stories to tell?
 
Cordless Crazy wrote:
Chris Bacon Wrote:
Cordless Crazy wrote:
Was wondering whether to use it to fix my french doors (plus
sidelights
either side) as the frame is 2400mm wide and in my opinion it is too
wide for the gear to work/secure it properly.

What do you reckon?

Just use chewing-gum, since you're in France at the moment.


What the fudge?


'French' doors.



Cordless Crazy May 26th 06 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil L
sm_jamieson wrote:
Cordless Crazy wrote:
Anyone used that Fischer 2-part foam designed for fixing door and
window frames in lieu of using regular fixings?

http://tinyurl.com/hqn4g

Was wondering whether to use it to fix my french doors (plus
sidelights either side) as the frame is 2400mm wide and in my
opinion it is too wide for the gear to work/secure it properly.

What do you reckon?


--
Cordless Crazy


Is this any different to fixing using normal 1-part expanding foam ?
Anything special about the 2-part ?
Simon.


Not really, except that it is applied using a mastic gun, the outcome is
virtually the same, except you don't need to buy a foam gun

So why does a 2-part have to be used in a gun? I thought the main difference was the strength once cured? The 2-part is more of a structural solution as opposed to the 1-part?. Or am I barking up an expensive tree?

Cordless Crazy May 27th 06 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil L
Cordless Crazy wrote:
Chris Bacon Wrote:
Cordless Crazy wrote:
Was wondering whether to use it to fix my french doors (plus
sidelights
either side) as the frame is 2400mm wide and in my opinion it is too
wide for the gear to work/secure it properly.

What do you reckon?

Just use chewing-gum, since you're in France at the moment.


What the fudge?


'French' doors.

Ahhhhhh. Kerching....the penny drops!!!!!!!!!

Phil L May 27th 06 03:24 PM

Fixing a UPVC door using foam? Anyone done it or have stories to tell?
 
Cordless Crazy wrote:
Phil L Wrote:
sm_jamieson wrote:
Cordless Crazy wrote:
Anyone used that Fischer 2-part foam designed for fixing door and
window frames in lieu of using regular fixings?

http://tinyurl.com/hqn4g

Was wondering whether to use it to fix my french doors (plus
sidelights either side) as the frame is 2400mm wide and in my
opinion it is too wide for the gear to work/secure it properly.

What do you reckon?


--
Cordless Crazy

Is this any different to fixing using normal 1-part expanding foam ?
Anything special about the 2-part ?
Simon.

Not really, except that it is applied using a mastic gun, the outcome
is
virtually the same, except you don't need to buy a foam gun


So why does a 2-part have to be used in a gun? I thought the main
difference was the strength once cured? The 2-part is more of a
structural solution as opposed to the 1-part?. Or am I barking up an
expensive tree?


It's 2 part because it mixes in the nozzle to become foam, if it was
premixed in the tube it would set, the reason why it doesn't in a
pressurised container is because the solvent is present, which evapourates
once expelled....AFAIK there's no difference in strength.



Andy Wade May 29th 06 10:09 AM

Fixing a UPVC door using foam? Anyone done it or have storiesto tell?
 
Cordless Crazy wrote:

Ahhhhhh. Kerching....the penny drops!!!!!!!!!


Just remember Hoffnung's "French widow in every bedroom" and you can't
go wrong...

--
Andy


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