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Ian Stirling May 23rd 06 07:32 PM

Stupid perimeter/area insulaiton question.
 
I have a 1600s or so scottish cottage, that's lacking in insulation.
It's some 20m*5m, with a suspended wooden floor, with no insulation
underneath. The temperature below the suspended floor is essentially the
average house temp.
During other works, the path (20*1m) along one long side of the house
has been dug up.
Is there any point at all in putting down 2-5cm of rigid insulation under
sand blinding, then membrane, and gravel, instead of just the gravel and
membrane?

How would I go about calculating the extra insulation effect?


Phil L May 23rd 06 08:57 PM

Stupid perimeter/area insulaiton question.
 
Ian Stirling wrote:
I have a 1600s or so scottish cottage, that's lacking in insulation.
It's some 20m*5m, with a suspended wooden floor, with no insulation
underneath. The temperature below the suspended floor is essentially
the average house temp.
During other works, the path (20*1m) along one long side of the house
has been dug up.
Is there any point at all in putting down 2-5cm of rigid insulation
under sand blinding, then membrane, and gravel, instead of just the
gravel and membrane?

How would I go about calculating the extra insulation effect?


You don't because there wouldn't be any.
Insulation outdoors doesn't work because there's no heat to save....the
inside and outside temperatures of your wall (below ground) will differ only
slightly, maybe a degree if that, what tiny amount dissipates through the
soil under your path, you want to lay insulation on top of this soil?
You may save a degree or two if you stood the panels upright against the
wall, but you'd probably do more damage to the walls with moisture retention
and save nothing whatsoever in heating bills.



The Natural Philosopher May 24th 06 12:14 AM

Stupid perimeter/area insulaiton question.
 
Phil L wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
I have a 1600s or so scottish cottage, that's lacking in insulation.
It's some 20m*5m, with a suspended wooden floor, with no insulation
underneath. The temperature below the suspended floor is essentially
the average house temp.
During other works, the path (20*1m) along one long side of the house
has been dug up.
Is there any point at all in putting down 2-5cm of rigid insulation
under sand blinding, then membrane, and gravel, instead of just the
gravel and membrane?

How would I go about calculating the extra insulation effect?


You don't because there wouldn't be any.


Not true.

Insulation outdoors doesn't work because there's no heat to save....the
inside and outside temperatures of your wall (below ground) will differ only
slightly, maybe a degree if that, what tiny amount dissipates through the
soil under your path, you want to lay insulation on top of this soil?
You may save a degree or two if you stood the panels upright against the
wall, but you'd probably do more damage to the walls with moisture retention
and save nothing whatsoever in heating bills.


Mmm. there is a bit more difference than that...however I agree its
bareley worth bothering with.




Hugo Nebula May 24th 06 12:37 PM

Stupid perimeter/area insulaiton question.
 
On 23 May 2006 18:32:48 GMT, a particular chimpanzee named Ian
Stirling randomly hit the keyboard and
produced:

I have a 1600s or so scottish cottage, that's lacking in insulation.
It's some 20m*5m, with a suspended wooden floor, with no insulation
underneath. The temperature below the suspended floor is essentially the
average house temp.


Hopefully, the void below your joists are ventilated. If so,
virtually all your heat from the floor will be lost through this path,
and the amount of heat lost through the soil will be insignificant.
If not, then you've got more problems than heat loss to worry about.
--
Hugo Nebula
"If no-one on the internet wants a piece of this,
just how far from the pack have you strayed?"


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