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Dave Plowman (News) May 18th 06 01:58 PM

Tips on using end-feed plumbing fittings?
 
In article .com,
George Tingsley wrote:
of course it could be the solder being used
I have never used lead free so don't know if this is more difficult
to use


With decent flux it's much the same - just melts at a slightly higher
temperature. Shouldn't cause problems if you're used to making end feed
joints.


Ok thanks
But of course lobster is not used to making end feed joints
Be interesting to know what solder and flux he was using
I see you have already asked this


It's one of those things I'd love to see what he's actually doing wrong.
Of course I've been doing electronic - and other types - of soldering for
years, so pipework was simply an extension of this. If only I could get
the hang of MID welding on difficult things. ;-)

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George Tingsley May 18th 06 05:37 PM

Tips on using end-feed plumbing fittings?
 

Chris Bacon wrote:

George Tingsley wrote:
But of course lobster is not used to making end feed joints


He will be soon, I think!


Be interesting to know what solder and flux he was using


What do you think is a good flux?


When answering this you must consider both my age and the fact that I
have never used lead free solder
What Flux I have used in the past may have little relevance in 2006
Just so I don't get into any more interesting discussions

I always used Frys borax paste later called Fluxite think for plumbing
At present usage levels I have ample stock of this and lead solder to
last at least another 30 years
Unfortunately the same cant be said for me


Lobster May 18th 06 07:13 PM

Tips on using end-feed plumbing fittings?
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Lobster wrote:

Well, having run out, I've just ordered a 25-pack of 15mm straight
connectors in tomorrow's Screwfix delivery, so I'm going to have one
more concerted effort to get this right. Watch this space!


As a matter of interest, what flux and solder are you using?


Not sure - don't have them with me at the mo. The solder was just a
length (~4mm diameter) I've had in the back of a drawer for years
(bought off a roll last time I tried end-feed fittings) so presumably
will be pure lead. The flux is basic stuff of similar vintage; can't
remember the brand.

Actually I had to make up some pipework today, with my usual Yorkshire
fittings, and think I *may* have got it sorted! Following advice here,
I held the flame quite a lot closer to the fitting than usual (ie well
into the blue cone) and also didn't try to heat up 1-1.5" of pipe either
side of the fitting. My 'silver ring' appeared a hell of a lot faster
than usual, and TBH the joints looked at a lot better than my usual
efforts - not that I've ever had leakage problems etc. Anyway, I'll
have another go with end-feeds when my new supplies arrive and see how
it works.

David





Chris Bacon May 18th 06 07:45 PM

Tips on using end-feed plumbing fittings?
 
Lobster wrote:
The solder was just a length (~4mm diameter) I've had in the back
of a drawer for years (bought off a roll last time I tried end-feed
fittings) so presumably will be pure lead.


....with a large proportion of tin in it!

Lobster May 19th 06 07:50 PM

Tips on using end-feed plumbing fittings?
 
Lobster wrote:

Actually I had to make up some pipework today, with my usual Yorkshire
fittings, and think I *may* have got it sorted! Following advice here,
I held the flame quite a lot closer to the fitting than usual (ie well
into the blue cone) and also didn't try to heat up 1-1.5" of pipe either
side of the fitting. My 'silver ring' appeared a hell of a lot faster
than usual, and TBH the joints looked at a lot better than my usual
efforts - not that I've ever had leakage problems etc. Anyway, I'll
have another go with end-feeds when my new supplies arrive and see how
it works.


Woo-hoo: success! That's done the trick, I'm now reproducibly doing OK
end-feed fittings now. With hindsight, it seems kind of obvious what
was wrong so I feel pretty stupid that I hadn't sussed it... nothing
like making a pratt of myself in front of the world, eh?!

Anyway - very many thanks to everyone here who helped with advice: it's
*incredibly* appreciated!

David


Rick Hughes May 20th 06 10:31 AM

Tips on using end-feed plumbing fittings?
 

"Lobster" wrote in message
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so presumably will be pure lead.



Hope not.






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