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How small a gap can a mouse get through?
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I found a dead mouse today in a CU and the only entry point I could find was where the tails entered and even that seemed too small to let the head through. Adam |
How small a gap can a mouse get through?
ARWadsworth wrote:
As per the header. I found a dead mouse today in a CU and the only entry point I could find was where the tails entered and even that seemed too small to let the head through. Adam You'll be suprised where a mouse can get. :-) At a guess, a 2p piece sized round hole. -- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite |
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Earl Of Derby writes ARWadsworth wrote: As per the header. I found a dead mouse today in a CU and the only entry point I could find was where the tails entered and even that seemed too small to let the head through. Adam You'll be suprised where a mouse can get. :-) At a guess, a 2p piece sized round hole. Less than that!, around 10mm or whatever that is in Mickey mouse measurement!..... -- Tony Sayer |
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The official government line is anywhere you can get a standard pencil
in. I didn't believe it till I saw it with my own eyes - a normal sized adult mouse leaping up and vanishing through an air brick that I couldn't even get my index finger into. It astonished me at the time. Regards Mark -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth |
How small a gap can a mouse get through?
"ARWadsworth" wrote:
I found a dead mouse today in a CU and the only entry point I could find was where the tails entered and even that seemed too small to let the head through. From personal experience: They can get through a 1/2" square hole (into an airing cupboard) without any difficulty. I saw one do this when I surprised the little bugger one evening. They can also get through a 20mm knockout even when there are four 2.5mm singles running through it - Have you ever tried removing carbonised mouse from a three phase isolator? John -- John White, Electrical Contractor |
How small a gap can a mouse get through?
"The3rd Earl Of Derby" typed
ARWadsworth wrote: As per the header. I found a dead mouse today in a CU and the only entry point I could find was where the tails entered and even that seemed too small to let the head through. Adam You'll be suprised where a mouse can get. :-) At a guess, a 2p piece sized round hole. You'd get a rat through that! I'd guess any hole large enough for a woman's little finger. -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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"Helen Deborah Vecht" wrote in message ... "The3rd Earl Of Derby" typed ARWadsworth wrote: As per the header. I found a dead mouse today in a CU and the only entry point I could find was where the tails entered and even that seemed too small to let the head through. Adam You'll be suprised where a mouse can get. :-) At a guess, a 2p piece sized round hole. You'd get a rat through that! I'd guess any hole large enough for a woman's little finger. That's a good guide but it doesn't have to be a round hole. A mouse's skull is slightly flattened, broader than it's high. A round pencil hole wouldn't allow a mouse through but squash it a bit and it would. IYKWIM. Mary -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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"Mark A" wrote in message ... The official government line is anywhere you can get a standard pencil in. I didn't believe it till I saw it with my own eyes - a normal sized adult mouse leaping up and vanishing through an air brick that I couldn't even get my index finger into. It astonished me at the time. Regards Mark -- Pencils are standardised? B****y EU. Is that a round or hexagonal pencil? The only hole the mouse could have got into this CU was through a rectangular with two very tight 25mm tails passing through. I do believe a hexagonal pencil will fit. Cheers Adam |
How small a gap can a mouse get through?
ARWadsworth wrote:
As per the header. I found a dead mouse today in a CU and the only entry point I could find was where the tails entered and even that seemed too small to let the head through. Adam How small a gap can a mouse get through ? well, measure the hole where the tails enter the CU and that's about right for ingress. however, there seems to have been some malfunction of the mouses egress strategy :-) |
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"ARWadsworth" wrote in message . uk... As per the header. I found a dead mouse today in a CU and the only entry point I could find was where the tails entered and even that seemed too small to let the head through. I have seen them go through 1/2" mesh. |
How small a gap can a mouse get through?
Mark A wrote:
The official government line is anywhere you can get a standard pencil in. I didn't believe it till I saw it with my own eyes - a normal sized adult mouse leaping up and vanishing through an air brick that I couldn't even get my index finger into. It astonished me at the time. Regards Mark apparently they temporarily dislocate their jaw to enable them to get through tight holes. NT |
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dennis@home wrote:
"ARWadsworth" wrote in message . uk... As per the header. I found a dead mouse today in a CU and the only entry point I could find was where the tails entered and even that seemed too small to let the head through. I have seen them go through 1/2" mesh. Many rodents can get through a hole which their skulls will go through. Its probably the only way they can measure it (lacking small rulers and callipers). john2 |
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from "The3rd Earl Of Derby" contains these words: You'll be suprised where a mouse can get. :-) At a guess, a 2p piece sized round hole. You could -drop- a mouse though a hole that big. More like 8 - 10mm -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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On Mon, 01 May 2006 15:44:34 GMT, The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
At a guess, a 2p piece sized round hole. A mouse wouldn't even touch the sides. An adult rat(*) could get through a 2p sized hole. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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On Mon, 01 May 2006 16:55:20 +0100, Mark A wrote:
The official government line is anywhere you can get a standard pencil in. Thats about right. Our mouse holding cage has bars spaced 7mm apart, a pencil will just go between them. No mouse has yet got out between the bars. Shrews on the other hand can, with ease... -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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"ARWadsworth" wrote in message . uk... As per the header. I found a dead mouse today in a CU and the only entry point I could find was where the tails entered and even that seemed too small to let the head through. According to the man from Rentokil, anything you can push a Bic Biro through - say about 6mm diameter. Apparently their skull joints are flexible, allowing them to pass through holes that are smaller than the normal head size. Colin Bignell |
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In message , Mary Fisher
writes You'll be suprised where a mouse can get. :-) At a guess, a 2p piece sized round hole. You'd get a rat through that! I'd guess any hole large enough for a woman's little finger. That's a good guide but it doesn't have to be a round hole. A mouse's skull is slightly flattened, broader than it's high. A round pencil hole wouldn't allow a mouse through but squash it a bit and it would. IYKWIM. I once watched a shrew wriggle through a 5/16" clearance hole. Shoulders seemed to go one at a time. regards -- Tim Lamb |
How small a gap can a mouse get through?
ARWadsworth wrote:
As per the header. I found a dead mouse today in a CU and the only entry point I could find was where the tails entered and even that seemed too small to let the head through. Adam if a finger can get through, a mouse can. |
How small a gap can a mouse get through?
"Tim Lamb" wrote in message ... In message , Mary Fisher writes You'll be suprised where a mouse can get. :-) At a guess, a 2p piece sized round hole. You'd get a rat through that! I'd guess any hole large enough for a woman's little finger. That's a good guide but it doesn't have to be a round hole. A mouse's skull is slightly flattened, broader than it's high. A round pencil hole wouldn't allow a mouse through but squash it a bit and it would. IYKWIM. I once watched a shrew wriggle through a 5/16" clearance hole. Shoulders seemed to go one at a time. It's fascinating isn't it! Tt's the rigidity of the skull which determines what size of hole - in rodents at least, can be accessed. I can't get my body through a hole my head would go though :-( Mary. Mary regards -- Tim Lamb |
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dennis@home wrote: I found a dead mouse today in a CU and the only entry point I could find was where the tails entered and even that seemed too small to let the head through. I have seen them go through 1/2" mesh. That's a worry. That's what I was supplied with to stop them - I have an ornamental cast iron grill between the front door steps which help vents the cellar and has much larger holes than that. But since covering the inside with mesh a few years ago no signs of mice. Instead of near every year previously. Perhaps it only stops adult mice, though. -- *The colder the X-ray table, the more of your body is required on it * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Guy King wrote: OK, own up, who cross-bred mice with politicians to leave us with a bunch who can dislocate their jaws so they can lie more convincingly. You're convinced by the lies? ;-) -- *Geeks shall inherit the earth * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Mary Fisher wrote:
I can't get my body through a hole my head would go though :-( Do you have whiskers and pointy front teeth too? |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... Mary Fisher wrote: I can't get my body through a hole my head would go though :-( Do you have whiskers and pointy front teeth too? I'm not answering that! |
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Owain wrote:
. wrote: I found a dead mouse today in a CU and the only entry point I could find was where the tails entered and even that seemed too small to let the head through. How small a gap can a mouse get through ? well, measure the hole where the tails enter the CU and that's about right for ingress. however, there seems to have been some malfunction of the mouses egress strategy :-) Especially as, without food, the mouse should be getting thinner, not fatter. Owain so, someone actually /placed/ the mouse inside the CU ? the plot thickens. |
How small a gap can a mouse get through?
"." wrote in message ... Owain wrote: . wrote: I found a dead mouse today in a CU and the only entry point I could find was where the tails entered and even that seemed too small to let the head through. How small a gap can a mouse get through ? well, measure the hole where the tails enter the CU and that's about right for ingress. however, there seems to have been some malfunction of the mouses egress strategy :-) Especially as, without food, the mouse should be getting thinner, not fatter. Owain so, someone actually /placed/ the mouse inside the CU ? the plot thickens. Perhaps it got in as a baby and got fat - but insufficiently fed - on the insulation. |
How small a gap can a mouse get through?
"John White" wrote in message ... "ARWadsworth" wrote: I found a dead mouse today in a CU and the only entry point I could find was where the tails entered and even that seemed too small to let the head through. From personal experience: They can get through a 1/2" square hole (into an airing cupboard) without any difficulty. I saw one do this when I surprised the little bugger one evening. They can also get through a 20mm knockout even when there are four 2.5mm singles running through it - Have you ever tried removing carbonised mouse from a three phase isolator? John -- John White, Electrical Contractor The poor thing I saw had only done 230v so there was no crisping. Adam |
How small a gap can a mouse get through?
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Mary Fisher wrote: "." wrote in message ... Owain wrote: . wrote: I found a dead mouse today in a CU and the only entry point I could find was where the tails entered and even that seemed too small to let the head through. How small a gap can a mouse get through ? well, measure the hole where the tails enter the CU and that's about right for ingress. however, there seems to have been some malfunction of the mouses egress strategy :-) Especially as, without food, the mouse should be getting thinner, not fatter. so, someone actually /placed/ the mouse inside the CU ? the plot thickens. Perhaps it got in as a baby and got fat - but insufficiently fed - on the insulation. nah, without protien the mouse would have became catabolic within a few hours and it would have started to /lose/ weight. someone put the mouse in the CU. question is, why ? I do wish you wouldn't ask these questions when I've just put the black helicopter away. John -- John White, Electrical Contractor |
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ARWadsworth wrote:
"John White" wrote in message ... "ARWadsworth" wrote: I found a dead mouse today in a CU and the only entry point I could find was where the tails entered and even that seemed too small to let the head through. From personal experience: They can get through a 1/2" square hole (into an airing cupboard) without any difficulty. I saw one do this when I surprised the little bugger one evening. They can also get through a 20mm knockout even when there are four 2.5mm singles running through it - Have you ever tried removing carbonised mouse from a three phase isolator? John -- John White, Electrical Contractor The poor thing I saw had only done 230v so there was no crisping. Adam I bought a second hand elling lee ceramic hob cooker. There was a mouse - a mummified mouse BEHIND the Fascia where the knobs are - I took the thing apart to clean it. |
How small a gap can a mouse get through?
"." wrote in message ... Mary Fisher wrote: "." wrote in message ... Owain wrote: . wrote: I found a dead mouse today in a CU and the only entry point I could find was where the tails entered and even that seemed too small to let the head through. How small a gap can a mouse get through ? well, measure the hole where the tails enter the CU and that's about right for ingress. however, there seems to have been some malfunction of the mouses egress strategy :-) Especially as, without food, the mouse should be getting thinner, not fatter. Owain so, someone actually /placed/ the mouse inside the CU ? the plot thickens. Perhaps it got in as a baby and got fat - but insufficiently fed - on the insulation. nah, without protien the mouse would have became catabolic within a few hours and it would have started to /lose/ weight. someone put the mouse in the CU. question is, why ? Perhaps they didn't need it any more, they'd bought a pointer. |
How small a gap can a mouse get through?
"Mary Fisher" typed
I can't get my body through a hole my head would go though :-( Maybe you can't, but I understand prisons etc are designed on the principle that some people can... -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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"Helen Deborah Vecht" wrote in message ... "Mary Fisher" typed I can't get my body through a hole my head would go though :-( Maybe you can't, but I understand prisons etc are designed on the principle that some people can... I've no idea about that but I'm just too fat :-) Mary -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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.. wrote: snip someone put the mouse in the CU. question is, why ? Have you not been watching "Prison Break" on Channel 5? |
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ARWadsworth wrote:
I found a dead mouse today in a CU Gives "proving dead" a whole new meaning... But that's nothing. There was a case here a few years ago that made it to the local paper. Occupants had noticed a strange smell in the under-stairs cupboard. Transco could find no gas leak and suggested the cause might be electrical. An electrician was called and found a dead *snake* in the consumer unit. -- Andy |
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Rob Morley wrote: Have you not been watching "Prison Break" on Channel 5? Sizzling viewing. -- *Where do forest rangers go to "get away from it all?" Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Mary Fisher" typed
Maybe you can't, but I understand prisons etc are designed on the principle that some people can... I've no idea about that but I'm just too fat :-) Yebbut some people are 'stick insects'. Prisons etc have to be built to detain all inmates. -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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"Helen Deborah Vecht" wrote in message ... "Mary Fisher" typed Maybe you can't, but I understand prisons etc are designed on the principle that some people can... I've no idea about that but I'm just too fat :-) Yebbut some people are 'stick insects'. Prisons etc have to be built to detain all inmates. Perhaps - my observation was that I couldn't do it :-) Mary -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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"Andy Wade" wrote in message ... ARWadsworth wrote: I found a dead mouse today in a CU Gives "proving dead" a whole new meaning... ???? Explain what "proving dead" is please. The mouse certainly was in my opinion but I am not a vet. But a snake in a CU. Now that is brilliant. You tell the customer that it is probably nothing to worry about, open their CU and then tell them it is only a dead snake that was causing the problem. Adam |
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ARWadsworth wrote:
Explain what "proving dead" is please. The mouse certainly was in my opinion but I am not a vet. That process of checking that conductors or equipment that you are about to work on and that you /think/ you've isolated *really* is dead. A proper formal procedure (e.g. to comply with the EAW regs) involves using a test lamp or voltage indicator and proving that the indicating device itself is working both before and after the test. Plenty of hits on Google, e.g. http://www.niceic.org.uk/approved/elecatwork.html -- Andy |
How small a gap can a mouse get through?
"Andy Wade" wrote in message ... ARWadsworth wrote: Explain what "proving dead" is please. The mouse certainly was in my opinion but I am not a vet. That process of checking that conductors or equipment that you are about to work on and that you /think/ you've isolated *really* is dead. A proper formal procedure (e.g. to comply with the EAW regs) involves using a test lamp or voltage indicator and proving that the indicating device itself is working both before and after the test. Plenty of hits on Google, e.g. http://www.niceic.org.uk/approved/elecatwork.html -- Andy Cheers. Adam |
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