I would like to put various things up on recently tiled areas, and I'm not
sure about final positions, etc., so I don't want to drill and plug.

My last experiences with sticky pads, glues, etc all came to nothing, the
widget either fell off with time, or slid gracelessly down the wall.

But what about now; is there some sort of sticky which is unconditionally
strong, but the fixture can be chipped or pried off without damaging the
surface, I don't care so much about damaging the fitting, so perhaps it
could be broken up a bit, and solvent applied.

I read of very strong jollops here, but are they perhaps _too_ strong and
would wreck the wall : (

mike

mike wrote:

But what about now; is there some sort of sticky which is
unconditionally strong, but the fixture can be chipped or pried off
without damaging the surface, I don't care so much about damaging the
fitting, so perhaps it could be broken up a bit, and solvent applied.

I read of very strong jollops here, but are they perhaps _too_
strong and would wreck the wall : (

You could try a building adhesive of the No More Nails variety. Try some
first on a spare tile to make sure it comes off again.


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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
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"mike" wrote in message
. 1.4...
I would like to put various things up on recently tiled areas, and I'm not
sure about final positions, etc., so I don't want to drill and plug.

My last experiences with sticky pads, glues, etc all came to nothing, the
widget either fell off with time, or slid gracelessly down the wall.

But what about now; is there some sort of sticky which is unconditionally
strong, but the fixture can be chipped or pried off without damaging the
surface, I don't care so much about damaging the fitting, so perhaps it
could be broken up a bit, and solvent applied.

I read of very strong jollops here, but are they perhaps _too_ strong
and
would wreck the wall : (

Double sided stick foam tape.
You can remove it by using a knife to cut the foam and then scrapping it
off.
You *need* to clean both surfaces and have a good contact area.

There is no such thing as unconditionally strong BTW and if there was you
wouldn't be able to remove it.

The message
from "The Medway Handyman" contains
these words:

You could try a building adhesive of the No More Nails variety. Try some
first on a spare tile to make sure it comes off again.

But only glue porous things with it - impermeable to impermeable doesn't
work well.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

"dennis@home" wrote in
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Double sided stick foam tape.
You can remove it by using a knife to cut the foam and then scrapping
it off.
You *need* to clean both surfaces and have a good contact area.

There is no such thing as unconditionally strong BTW and if there was
you wouldn't be able to remove it.

just terminology - unconditionally strong, not unconditionally immoveable!

I used doublesided tape years ago without success, and have often tried the
pads that things come supplied with, but they all fell off after a bit.

Is there a particular brand?

On Mon, 1 May 2006 18:20:56 UTC, mike wrote:

I used doublesided tape years ago without success, and have often tried the
pads that things come supplied with, but they all fell off after a bit.

Is there a particular brand?

You might try the seriously heavy duty Velcro. Given the loads it can
support, I would expect the adhesive to do ditto. Easy to remove all but
the tape, and getting that off should be easier with nothing else left
attached.

I can see 45mm 'coins' that support 4kg, but ISTR seeing some heavier
duty stuff in B&Q. May be worth a look.

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"Bob Eager" wrote in
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I used doublesided tape years ago without success, and have often
tried the pads that things come supplied with, but they all fell off
after a bit.

Is there a particular brand?

You might try the seriously heavy duty Velcro. Given the loads it can
support, I would expect the adhesive to do ditto.

I tried that some years ago, and the adhesive, over a period of weeks, let
it slide down the wall, but maybe modern stuff is better at not creeping
down.

Stupid gravity.

I can see 45mm 'coins' that support 4kg, but ISTR seeing some heavier
duty stuff in B&Q. May be worth a look.

Wii check - thanks. It's more the long term, lots of things have stuck for
somw weeks, then your kitchen tools fall down in the middle of the night.

In a bungerlow, with the bedroom the other side of the wall, that can make
me seriously jump.

mike

On Mon, 1 May 2006 21:23:21 UTC, mike wrote:

I can see 45mm 'coins' that support 4kg, but ISTR seeing some heavier
duty stuff in B&Q. May be worth a look.

Wii check - thanks. It's more the long term, lots of things have stuck for
somw weeks, then your kitchen tools fall down in the middle of the night.

In a bungerlow, with the bedroom the other side of the wall, that can make
me seriously jump.

Funnily, but I'd forgotten this until now...

Some weeks ago I wired up the under-shelf lights in a wall unit we got
on eBay (it was previously wired with choc-block). The plugs and sockets
I used were quite light, but DS sticky tape didn't work for more than a
day or two. I used light duty Velcro, and they haven't fallen down yet.

Strange, but all that never crossed my mind earlier...

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mike wrote:
I would like to put various things up on recently tiled areas, and I'm not
sure about final positions, etc., so I don't want to drill and plug.

But what about now; is there some sort of sticky which is unconditionally
strong, but the fixture can be chipped or pried off without damaging the
surface, I don't care so much about damaging the fitting, so perhaps it
could be broken up a bit, and solvent applied.

Sikaflex-EBT is very strong and resilent (a cross between adhesive and
sealant). Disadvantage is that it is horribly gunky stick stuff that is
is difficult to wipe off any excess.

http://ukconstr01.webdms.sika.com/fi...ay=true&id=375




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DJC wrote in
. uk:


Sikaflex-EBT is very strong and resilent (a cross between adhesive and
sealant). Disadvantage is that it is horribly gunky stick stuff that
is is difficult to wipe off any excess.

http://ukconstr01.webdms.sika.com/fi...ay=true&id=375

Wow, if that's all true it must be the mutt's.

I'll enquire after it.

Thanks

mike

"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...

until now...

Some weeks ago I wired up the under-shelf lights in a wall unit we got
on eBay (it was previously wired with choc-block). The plugs and sockets
I used were quite light, but DS sticky tape didn't work for more than a
day or two.

DS tape is no good unless the surfaces are *flat* or flexible as you can't
get full contact.
That is why double sided foam will stick better as it fills the gaps.

I used light duty Velcro, and they haven't fallen down yet.

It fills the gaps just like foam tape does.

"Bob Eager" wrote in
:


Some weeks ago I wired up the under-shelf lights in a wall unit we got
on eBay (it was previously wired with choc-block). The plugs and
sockets I used were quite light, but DS sticky tape didn't work for
more than a day or two. I used light duty Velcro, and they haven't
fallen down yet.

For me it wasn't the velcro that faile, but the sticky on it's back - I can
check to see if it's improved

mike

mike wrote:
I would like to put various things up on recently tiled areas, and I'm not
sure about final positions, etc., so I don't want to drill and plug.

My last experiences with sticky pads, glues, etc all came to nothing, the
widget either fell off with time, or slid gracelessly down the wall.

But what about now; is there some sort of sticky which is unconditionally
strong, but the fixture can be chipped or pried off without damaging the
surface, I don't care so much about damaging the fitting, so perhaps it
could be broken up a bit, and solvent applied.


We have some hooks on the back of our wardrobe doors that are fixed
with double sided sticky. I think they were made by 3M. Supposedly they
are very resistant to being pulled off but can be removed by sliding.
I've never had the need to try but they haven't fallen off yet.

MBQ

On Tue, 2 May 2006 14:09:50 UTC, "dennis@home"
wrote:


"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...

until now...

Some weeks ago I wired up the under-shelf lights in a wall unit we got
on eBay (it was previously wired with choc-block). The plugs and sockets
I used were quite light, but DS sticky tape didn't work for more than a
day or two.

DS tape is no good unless the surfaces are *flat* or flexible as you can't
get full contact.
That is why double sided foam will stick better as it fills the gaps.

Actually, it *was* DS foam!

I used light duty Velcro, and they haven't fallen down yet.

It fills the gaps just like foam tape does.

But in my case it stuck better...
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On 1 May 2006 09:23:14 GMT, mike wrote:

I would like to put various things up on recently tiled areas, and I'm not
sure about final positions, etc., so I don't want to drill and plug.

My last experiences with sticky pads, glues, etc all came to nothing, the
widget either fell off with time, or slid gracelessly down the wall.

But what about now; is there some sort of sticky which is unconditionally
strong, but the fixture can be chipped or pried off without damaging the
surface, I don't care so much about damaging the fitting, so perhaps it
could be broken up a bit, and solvent applied.

I read of very strong jollops here, but are they perhaps _too_ strong and
would wreck the wall : (

mike

Hi,

Try 'servo tape' available from model suppliers.

cheers,
Pete.

Pete C wrote in
:

My last experiences with sticky pads, glues, etc all came to nothing,
the widget either fell off with time, or slid gracelessly down the
wall.


Hi,

Try 'servo tape' available from model suppliers.

cheers,
Pete.


Never heard of it, but Maplin appear to have it; I'll get some.

Thanks

mike