Overflow pipe dripping
 

I live in a 1st floor flat and have an overflow pipe which is slowly
dripping outside. The pipe is white, about 1 inch diameter and exits
the building at floor height.

I suspect that it may be my immersion heater or bath. Could someone
help me out?

The immersion heater has 2 electrical cables each connecting to a
seperate power switch on the wall next to it. The top switch on the
wall is on and the red power light is on. The bottom switch is on but
the red light is off.

I've also noticed that my bath takes over 10 minutes to empty about
10cms of water. Could this also be a candidate for my problem?

Overflow pipe dripping
 

Overflow pipe dripping
 

Overflow pipe dripping
 

wrote:
I live in a 1st floor flat and have an overflow pipe which is slowly
dripping outside. The pipe is white, about 1 inch diameter and exits
the building at floor height.

I suspect that it may be my immersion heater or bath. Could someone
help me out?

The immersion heater has 2 electrical cables each connecting to a
seperate power switch on the wall next to it. The top switch on the
wall is on and the red power light is on. The bottom switch is on but
the red light is off.

I've also noticed that my bath takes over 10 minutes to empty about
10cms of water. Could this also be a candidate for my problem?

What about your toilet? Have you checked the cistern? Might be that
simple.

Bath overflow normally goes back into the drain.

Overflow pipe dripping
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
I live in a 1st floor flat and have an overflow pipe which is slowly
dripping outside. The pipe is white, about 1 inch diameter and exits
the building at floor height.

I suspect that it may be my immersion heater or bath. Could someone
help me out?

The immersion heater has 2 electrical cables each connecting to a
seperate power switch on the wall next to it. The top switch on the
wall is on and the red power light is on. The bottom switch is on but
the red light is off.

I've also noticed that my bath takes over 10 minutes to empty about
10cms of water. Could this also be a candidate for my problem?

Put a few drips of different food colouring into each tank individually and
see which tank leaks the relevant colour

Overflow pipe dripping
 

Thanks. Its a low level cistern. The water is at the same level as
the top of the overflow pipe. Water was very slowly trickling in from
the valve at the other end of the ballcock end so I've adjusted it as
suggested.

I'll give it a day or so and check that the dripping has stopped.

Overflow pipe dripping
 

Overflow pipe dripping
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
Thanks. Its a low level cistern. The water is at the same level as
the top of the overflow pipe. Water was very slowly trickling in from
the valve at the other end of the ballcock end so I've adjusted it as
suggested.

I'll give it a day or so and check that the dripping has stopped.

You may find the cock is dripping, possibly due to a small obstruction.
I suggest, with the cistern full, bounce your ball up and down reasonably
hard, this seems to release small debris trapped in the valve.

Otherwise you need to either take the valve apart (turning off the water
first of course) and fix whatever is broken or word, or just get a new
valve!

Sparks...

Overflow pipe dripping
 

"Phil L" wrote in message
. uk...
....
adjust the screw on the ballcock arm so that the ballcock doesn't rise as
high, if it's on a metal arm, bend it slightly downwards (only about half
an inch).

Bending the arm is not now permitted.

Colin Bignell

Overflow pipe dripping
 

nightjar nightjar@ wrote:
"Phil L" wrote in message
. uk...
...

adjust the screw on the ballcock arm so that the ballcock doesn't rise as
high, if it's on a metal arm, bend it slightly downwards (only about half
an inch).


Bending the arm is not now permitted.

Colin Bignell



Come on, you're 24 days late with that one!

Overflow pipe dripping
 

In article . com,
wrote:
Thanks. Its a low level cistern. The water is at the same level as
the top of the overflow pipe. Water was very slowly trickling in from
the valve at the other end of the ballcock end so I've adjusted it as
suggested.

I'll give it a day or so and check that the dripping has stopped.

If it has a torbeck valve - a small all plastic device where the plastic
float can be adjusted by moving it to different notches on the arm - they
have a filter which can become blocked and sometimes the crud in a hard
water area just makes them give up. Cleaning doesn't always work. Cheap in
the sheds and easy to replace, though.

--
*I never drink anything stronger than gin before breakfast *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Overflow pipe dripping
 

chris.fellows wrote:
I live in a 1st floor flat and have an overflow pipe which is slowly
dripping outside. The pipe is white, about 1 inch diameter and exits
the building at floor height.

I suspect that it may be my immersion heater or bath. Could someone
help me out?

It's coming from the lavatory cistern, cold water tank, or central
heating header tank. First of all get the lid off the cistern, and
see whether the water gets up to the overflow pipe after a period
of non-use.

Overflow pipe dripping
 

Colin Bignell wrote

Bending the arm is not now permitted.



Says who? And how would they find out?


--
Dave
The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

Overflow pipe dripping
 

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
...
Colin Bignell wrote

Bending the arm is not now permitted.



Says who? And how would they find out?

If you bend the arm, it ceases to be of 'appropriate quality or standard'
for the purposes of Regulation 4 of the Water Supply (Water Fittings)
Regulations 1999. The approved method is either to fit a valve with adequate
adjustment, or to use an adjustable drop arm, which screws on in place of
the ball and has the ball attached to it. However, you would not have room
to fit a drop arm in a WC cistern, as they stick out at right angles to the
main arm. I supply drop arms up to 3/4" diameter and I suspect that bending
those is not an option anyway.

Colin Bignell

Overflow pipe dripping
 

"Guy King" wrote in message
...
The message
from "nightjar" nightjar@insert my surname here.uk.com contains
these words:

adjust the screw on the ballcock arm so that the ballcock doesn't rise
as
high, if it's on a metal arm, bend it slightly downwards (only about
half
an inch).

Bending the arm is not now permitted.

Seriously? What prawn dreamed that one up?

The Water Supply (Water Fittings) Regulations 1999 require that water
fittings meet one of the approved standards and they only cover a device
that has not been subjected to unauthorised modification.

Colin Bignell

Overflow pipe dripping
 

nightjar nightjar@ wrote:
If you bend the [float] arm, it ceases to be of 'appropriate quality or
standard' for the purposes of Regulation 4 of the Water Supply (Water
Fittings) Regulations 1999.

Why? Can you psot the relevant wording of the above?

Overflow pipe dripping
 

"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
...
nightjar nightjar@ wrote:
If you bend the [float] arm, it ceases to be of 'appropriate quality or
standard' for the purposes of Regulation 4 of the Water Supply (Water
Fittings) Regulations 1999.

Why? Can you psot the relevant wording of the above?

'4. - (1) Every water fitting shall-


(a) be of an appropriate quality and standard; and

(b) be suitable for the circumstances in which it is used.


(2) For the purposes of this regulation, a water fitting is of an
appropriate quality or standard only if-

(a) it bears an appropriate CE marking in accordance with the Directive;

(b) it conforms to an appropriate harmonized standard or European
technical approval;

(c) it conforms to an appropriate British Standard or some other national
specification of an EEA State which provides an equivalent level of
protection and performance; or

(d) it conforms to a specification approved by the regulator.'


The relevant point is that water fittings now have to comply with one of the
specified standards and that, as it is impossible to know the effects of all
possible modifications, standards only apply to a device that has not been
subjected to an unauthorised modification.

Colin Bignell

Overflow pipe dripping
 

"Guy King" wrote in message
...
The message
from "nightjar" nightjar@insert my surname here.uk.com contains
these words:

adjust the screw on the ballcock arm so that the ballcock doesn't
rise as
high, if it's on a metal arm, bend it slightly downwards (only
about half
an inch).

Bending the arm is not now permitted.

Seriously? What prawn dreamed that one up?

The Water Supply (Water Fittings) Regulations 1999 require that water
fittings meet one of the approved standards and they only cover a
device that has not been subjected to unauthorised modification.

Colin Bignell

Who cares? - apart from those set to profit from it?...it's no good coming
the 'thou shalt not' rubbish spouted by those with a vested interest, and
besides, a metal arm of a ballcock isn't a water fitting as such, it's
merely *attached* to a mechanism for turning the water on or off....but, I
assume it's an attempt to go the same way as other areas of plumbing,
electricals, glazing etc, IE another money making scam.

Overflow pipe dripping
 

The message
from "nightjar" nightjar@insert my surname here.uk.com contains
these words:

Seriously? What prawn dreamed that one up?

The Water Supply (Water Fittings) Regulations 1999 require that water
fittings meet one of the approved standards and they only cover a device
that has not been subjected to unauthorised modification.

Well (and it's not often I swear on usenet), **** 'em.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Overflow pipe dripping
 

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:18:39 +0100, "nightjar" nightjar@insert my
surname here.uk.com had this to say:


"Guy King" wrote in message
...
The message
from "nightjar" nightjar@insert my surname here.uk.com contains
these words:

adjust the screw on the ballcock arm so that the ballcock doesn't rise
as
high, if it's on a metal arm, bend it slightly downwards (only about
half
an inch).

Bending the arm is not now permitted.

Seriously? What prawn dreamed that one up?

The Water Supply (Water Fittings) Regulations 1999 require that water
fittings meet one of the approved standards and they only cover a device
that has not been subjected to unauthorised modification.

Bending the arm is an accepted method of adjustment, not a
modification.

So is cutting a piece of copper pipe to the correct length an
unauthorised modification? After all, it was supplied in a standard
length :-)

--
Frank Erskine

Overflow pipe dripping
 

"Frank Erskine" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:18:39 +0100, "nightjar" nightjar@insert my
surname here.uk.com had this to say:


"Guy King" wrote in message
.. .
The message
from "nightjar" nightjar@insert my surname here.uk.com contains
these words:

adjust the screw on the ballcock arm so that the ballcock doesn't
rise
as
high, if it's on a metal arm, bend it slightly downwards (only about
half
an inch).

Bending the arm is not now permitted.

Seriously? What prawn dreamed that one up?

The Water Supply (Water Fittings) Regulations 1999 require that water
fittings meet one of the approved standards and they only cover a device
that has not been subjected to unauthorised modification.

Bending the arm is an accepted method of adjustment, not a
modification.

It is not one accepted by the regulations. To judge by the number of drop
arms I supply to storage cistern manufacturers, is is not one they expect to
be used either.

So is cutting a piece of copper pipe to the correct length an
unauthorised modification? After all, it was supplied in a standard
length :-)

That is a supply pipe, not a water fitting.

Colin Bignell

Overflow pipe dripping
 

wrote:
On 25 Apr,
"The Medway Handyman" wrote:

Colin Bignell wrote

Bending the arm is not now permitted.



Says who? And how would they find out?

Most (bog ones at least) are (non bendy)plastic. It would break if
you bent it. Then they'd know.

Granted. But how are they going to detect a bend in a metal arm?


--
Dave
The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

Overflow pipe dripping
 

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
. uk...
wrote:
On 25 Apr,
"The Medway Handyman" wrote:

Colin Bignell wrote

Bending the arm is not now permitted.



Says who? And how would they find out?

Most (bog ones at least) are (non bendy)plastic. It would break if
you bent it. Then they'd know.

Granted. But how are they going to detect a bend in a metal arm?

It is easy enough to spot whether an arm has been bent, although whether a
BCO would bother to look is another matter. The people I deal with mostly
install large capacity cisterns for hospitals, hotels etc. and prefer not to
take the risk for the sake of a few extra pounds.

Colin Bignell