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rburr49 April 12th 06 08:57 AM

Hot Water Tank Leak
 
We have been plagued by problems of minor (thankfully) leaks in our
airing cupboard which is a spaghetti of pipework around the how water
cylinder. The main culprit was the essex flange and this was replaced
and, despite needing tightening recently, is now watertight. The
exacerbating factor has also been that we were running the water much
too hot with the therrmostat on the element turned up full (80deg) -
lovely hot baths but lethal and I can't imagine it's done much for all
the joints etc.

Anyway we now find there is a slow but steady drip coming thru the
boards on which the tank sits but I cannot see the source of the leak
itself. I can see only four joints that could leak - the element, the
inlet, the main outlet and the essex shower outlet - all of these
appear to be sound and dry.

Is it possible that the tank itself (copper with that dry foam
insulation stuck all over it and about 20 years old I imagine) has some
kind split/hole in it?

Is there anything we could use like radweld (?) to seal it up? The
thought of having to replace the tank (meaning getting a plumber in to
do it) is a bit of a nightmare cost-wise!

Thnaks,
RB


Mary Fisher April 12th 06 09:07 AM

Hot Water Tank Leak
 

"rburr49" wrote in message
oups.com...

... we were running the water much
too hot with the therrmostat on the element turned up full (80deg) -
lovely hot baths


You can get into a bathful of water at 80C?


The
thought of having to replace the tank (meaning getting a plumber in to
do it) is a bit of a nightmare cost-wise!


Do It Yourself.

It's not difficult.

Mary



Brian Reay April 12th 06 09:17 AM

Hot Water Tank Leak
 

"rburr49" wrote in message
oups.com...

Is it possible that the tank itself (copper with that dry foam
insulation stuck all over it and about 20 years old I imagine) has some
kind split/hole in it?



Yes. As you mention tighting a union, suspect that area first. The threaded
bosses on the tank can be stress areas and can develop small "cracks" /
splits when tightened.

It is possible to repair these with solder- drain tank, check area is dry,
clean, flux, and use a deciet heat source.


Is there anything we could use like radweld (?) to seal it up? The
thought of having to replace the tank (meaning getting a plumber in to
do it) is a bit of a nightmare cost-wise!


I'd not even consider anything like "radweld"- if it later leaks when you
aren't around (eg on holiday) the results don't want thinking about.

Brian




Grimly Curmudgeon April 13th 06 06:53 PM

Hot Water Tank Leak
 
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "rburr49"
saying something like:

Is it possible that the tank itself (copper with that dry foam
insulation stuck all over it and about 20 years old I imagine) has some
kind split/hole in it?


Old tanks sometimes develop leaks from the bottom where the metal is
stretched thin during the stamping process.

Is there anything we could use like radweld (?) to seal it up? The
thought of having to replace the tank (meaning getting a plumber in to
do it) is a bit of a nightmare cost-wise!


Not much. I've tried this before (solder or fibreglass) and quite
frankly it's not worth the hassle - it always leaks again.
Replace with new.
--

Dave

tony sayer April 13th 06 09:23 PM

Hot Water Tank Leak
 
In article , Grimly
Curmudgeon writes
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "rburr49"
saying something like:

Is it possible that the tank itself (copper with that dry foam
insulation stuck all over it and about 20 years old I imagine) has some
kind split/hole in it?


Old tanks sometimes develop leaks from the bottom where the metal is
stretched thin during the stamping process.

Is there anything we could use like radweld (?) to seal it up? The
thought of having to replace the tank (meaning getting a plumber in to
do it) is a bit of a nightmare cost-wise!


Not much. I've tried this before (solder or fibreglass) and quite
frankly it's not worth the hassle - it always leaks again.
Replace with new.


Take my advice and bite the bullet on this one!. I've had the same
situation as you with regard to the hot water cylinder in my daughters
flat. The immersion heather gave up the ghost, changed that the next one
lasted 8 months and slaughtered the heating element, something about the
water there!.

Course doing up and undoing the immersion heather that developed a crack
that you couldn't quite solder and decided to take it out to solder it
better and discovered that in places its wafer thin and when doing the
top output connector, that tore off cos the metal was so thin.

When it was all drained it weighed a ton because of all the limescale in
the thing as it was run too hot!.

All in all new 900x450 cyl from Screwfix for 94 odd plus the VAT end of
story all fixed and fine:))

Take a bit of time and care and its well within the DIY scope. Just use
PTFE tape and a dab of sealant on the connectors and its difficult to
make it leak!...
--
Tony Sayer



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